New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

@flippikat

Any news on the Christchurch consortium?

A second NZ2 team offers a lot of advantages to the other clubs. It'll provide more content for the Fri 6pm AEST timeslot that is a crowd killer for the Australian teams. Surely that's worth more than a Perth team playing in the Sun 4pm AWST time zone.

The biggest advantage of adding NZ2 as the 18th team is it leaves the door open for a potential third NZ team within the next decade. If NZ2 is a roaring success then the ARLC should seriously consider adding a third. There will never be a better time to expand into NZ.

There's plenty of RU players in New Zealand to service NZ2 and NZ3.

 

[Gobsmacked]

@flippikat

Any news on the Christchurch consortium?

A second NZ2 team offers a lot of advantages to the other clubs. It'll provide more content for the Fri 6pm AEST timeslot that is a crowd killer for the Australian teams. Surely that's worth more than a Perth team playing in the Sun 4pm AWST time zone.

The biggest advantage of adding NZ2 as the 18th team is it leaves the door open for a potential third NZ team within the next decade. If NZ2 is a roaring success then the ARLC should seriously consider adding a third. There will never be a better time to expand into NZ.

There's plenty of RU players in New Zealand to service NZ2 and NZ3.

I've been speaking to lots of kiwis here in the South Island and Rugby league wasn't of interest Until this year. 1 bloke was telling me that the Warriors have been an inspiration and excitement that has found himself watching more league than Union for the first time and now finds Union boring.
New zealand is having a Rugby league revolution! it's stacked with talent!
It needs another team desperately!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I've been speaking to lots of kiwis here in the South Island and Rugby league wasn't of interest Until this year. 1 bloke was telling me that the Warriors have been an inspiration and excitement that has found himself watching more league than Union for the first time and now finds Union boring.
New zealand is having a Rugby league revolution! it's stacked with talent!
It needs another team desperately!

If there's one thing New Zealanders love it is getting one over Australians. Few people in Australia care about rugby union. Not much for All Blacks to brag about when they beat a shit Wallabies team that few Australians follow.

 

[Gobsmacked]

If there's one thing New Zealanders love it is getting one over Australians. Few people in Australia care about rugby union. Not much for All Blacks to brag about when they beat a shit Wallabies team that few Australians follow.

The end of year tests should be awesome!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The end of year tests should be awesome!

The biggest draw card behind NZ2 (and possibly a third team) is the benefits it will provide to Test football. There's potential to make decent money from an Kangaroos vs Kiwis Test series.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

If there's one thing New Zealanders love it is getting one over Australians. Few people in Australia care about rugby union. Not much for All Blacks to brag about when they beat a shit Wallabies team that few Australians follow.

There is a lot of truth to this. The Bledisloe Cup was epic 20 years ago. Now we don’t give a f**k because beating up on a sorry arse wallaby side every year is no fun.
same with Super Rugby, it’s shit (or at least might as well just be the NPC) when it’s just a competition between the NZ sides. But the Warriors going deep into finals or actually winning- that’s glory. That gets people going.

 

[Perth Red]

@flippikat

Any news on the Christchurch consortium?

A second NZ2 team offers a lot of advantages to the other clubs. It'll provide more content for the Fri 6pm AEST timeslot that is a crowd killer for the Australian teams. Surely that's worth more than a Perth team playing in the Sun 4pm AWST time zone.

The biggest advantage of adding NZ2 as the 18th team is it leaves the door open for a potential third NZ team within the next decade. If NZ2 is a roaring success then the ARLC should seriously consider adding a third. There will never be a better time to expand into NZ.

There's plenty of RU players in New Zealand to service NZ2 and NZ3.

Did you listen to the interview? He said all there was to know.
they have no money and not much idea how they’ll get some
they are a group of local rugby league club people
they are in their infancy

 

[Wb1234]

If there's one thing New Zealanders love it is getting one over Australians. Few people in Australia care about rugby union. Not much for All Blacks to brag about when they beat a shit Wallabies team that few Australians follow.

All blacks are beating the rejects of Australian rugby players

at least the warriors are holding their own against Australia’s best rugby players

 

[flippikat]

@flippikat

Any news on the Christchurch consortium?

A second NZ2 team offers a lot of advantages to the other clubs. It'll provide more content for the Fri 6pm AEST timeslot that is a crowd killer for the Australian teams. Surely that's worth more than a Perth team playing in the Sun 4pm AWST time zone.

The biggest advantage of adding NZ2 as the 18th team is it leaves the door open for a potential third NZ team within the next decade. If NZ2 is a roaring success then the ARLC should seriously consider adding a third. There will never be a better time to expand into NZ.

There's plenty of RU players in New Zealand to service NZ2 and NZ3.

There's a South Island bid facebook page, but it has less than 100 followers & is very scant on anything concrete right now.

Not sure if everything is churning away in the background or just biding time until bids are called, to be honest.

In the meantime, I guess there's still the upcoming tests to get excited about.. and keeping an eye out for the release of next season's Warriors jerseys - since they're leaving Puma for Dynasty, could be a wee shake-up there.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There's a South Island bid facebook page, but it has less than 100 followers & is very scant on anything concrete right now.

Not sure if everything is churning away in the background or just biding time until bids are called, to be honest.

In the meantime, I guess there's still the upcoming tests to get excited about.. and keeping an eye out for the release of next season's Warriors jerseys - since they're leaving Puma for Dynasty, could be a wee shake-up there.

The money being invested into the Pacific Tests is a good sign for NZ2.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

There's a South Island bid facebook page, but it has less than 100 followers & is very scant on anything concrete right now.

Not sure if everything is churning away in the background or just biding time until bids are called, to be honest.

In the meantime, I guess there's still the upcoming tests to get excited about.. and keeping an eye out for the release of next season's Warriors jerseys - since they're leaving Puma for Dynasty, could be a wee shake-up there.

My little underground metal record label has more followers than that.. so yeah not encouraging.

the jersey thing will be interesting though TBH I’d rather we still had Puma, they’ve done most of our best jerseys.

 

[Wb1234]

The money being invested into the Pacific Tests is a good sign for NZ2.

Nz2 will be team 20 imo

png and Perth will be announced early next year for staggered entry but before the next tv deal so they can sell a 19 team nrl to broadcasters

nz2 will come in during the next tv deal

still leaves open Brisbane 3 and Adelaide down the track

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Did you listen to the interview? He said all there was to know.
they have no money and not much idea how they’ll get some
they are a group of local rugby league club people
they are in their infancy

So it's like the Perth bid?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nz2 will be team 20 imo

png and Perth will be announced early next year for staggered entry but before the next tv deal so they can sell a 19 team nrl to broadcasters

nz2 will come in during the next tv deal

still leaves open Brisbane 3 and Adelaide down the track

I can only see the 18th licence being awarded before the next broadcast deal is negotiated. The broadcasters will have a preference for who they want and how much they will pay for it. The clubs will want the option that provides the most money.

Media analyst Colin Smith has worked with the ARLC on previous deals. He was staunchly against expanding into Adelaide and Perth. He recommended adding NZ2, Brisbane 3 and either Melbourne 2 or PNG.

 

[The Great Dane]

Football got out of that hole by sanitising itself. It still remains largely a male young following but moving to all seater stadiums after the disasters and getting rid of a lot of the hooliganism from the 70’s and 80’s opened it up to new followers. In England it’s always been by far the biggest sport in modern times. It’s national, has the media, and then came the money men. They did a great job reinventing to the epl and making it the biggest comp in a global sport.

Maybe IMG if given the chance will do something ona lessor scale for RL, we can but hope.

When you boil it down any genuine growth in England will require some turkeys to vote for Christmas, particularly amongst the clubs, and given their MO I'm highly sceptical that most are even capable of that.

Same is true of many Australian clubs and stakeholders BTW. There're many people within the game here whom would destroy the game in a heartbeat if they believed it was in their club's interest, and it's a tedious balancing act to prevent them from doing so and keep them all on side.

 

[MugaB]

I can only see the 18th licence being awarded before the next broadcast deal is negotiated. The broadcasters will have a preference for who they want and how much they will pay for it. The clubs will want the option that provides the most money.

Media analyst Colin Smith has worked with the ARLC on previous deals. He was staunchly against expanding into Adelaide and Perth. He recommended adding NZ2, Brisbane 3 and either Melbourne 2 or PNG.

Incorrect the broadcasters dont have a say, only the clubs votes counts, expansion is coming regardless who gets picked,the broadcaster will pay for 9 games regardless who gets voted in... and the clubs don't care about money made thru an expansion team, otherwise we would have already have 2-3 more clubs in Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane... the expansion team makes its own money, it keeps it gate takings, memberships, merch etc, its not like a new broncos v2.0 will suddenly share the profits with all the other clubs... the clubs will vote on who afftects them the least via player pool, distance, just like they did with the dolphins in SEQ, if you can give back to the player pool, and not be a burden financially to the broadcaster money, then you have the best case in getting the next licence... nothing else matters

 

[Gobsmacked]

Business of Sport: the dream of a second NRL club in NZ is alive

A consortium has been formed with the goal of creating a second National Rugby League franchise in New Zealand.The group, which favours Christchurch as the club...

businessdesk.co.nz

 

[Gobsmacked]

There's a South Island bid facebook page, but it has less than 100 followers & is very scant on anything concrete right now.

Not sure if everything is churning away in the background or just biding time until bids are called, to be honest.

In the meantime, I guess there's still the upcoming tests to get excited about.. and keeping an eye out for the release of next season's Warriors jerseys - since they're leaving Puma for Dynasty, could be a wee shake-up there.

Is this the same one?
It made a business news rag so it's probably not reflective of thier fb presence lol

 

[Matiunz]

I'm certainly not saying this has to happen tomorrow, but the NRL is going to continue to grow the game including the pathways and the fan base and there's no reason a city of 1.7m people can't host two teams.

Even though league is at its strongest in NZ in Auckland it’s still a minor sport. Unions second Auckland super rugby team failed to capture an audience and had to import a decent chunk of players from outside provinces to make it competitive’ , its NRL team would be the same. Warriors at the moment are NZs de facto team, if there were a second based in another NZ city you’d be much more likely for particularly non Auckland fans to jump on the new team and the galvanise the Auckland supporters to the Warriors

 

[Matiunz]

Spark (essentially the Telstra of NZ) would be a good option for a 2nd NZ team.

Wasn’t there some conjecture that Telstra wasn’t too keen on the Warriors having Vodafone as their major sponsor? Guess spark isn’t really a competitor in the grand scheme of things