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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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There isn’t a single metric where a Perth team beats nz2
C,mon, I`d hazard a guess that the Western Australian economy is probably larger than the NZ economy full stop. That`s before we even start on that rural backwater that is the South Island.
And it is the money that will make or break this deal and unfortunately we have seen nothing from the South Island that contradicts that.
 

Colk

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C,mon, I`d hazard a guess that the Western Australian economy is probably larger than the NZ economy full stop. That`s before we even start on that rural backwater that is the South Island.
And it is the money that will make or break this deal and unfortunately we have seen nothing from the South Island that contradicts that.


 

Colk

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Crazy stuff, NZ economy ~ $400 billion, W.A. economy $260 billion in export income alone.

Yeah it has been strong for a while. As the report indicates, half of Australia’s exports come from WA. We are blessed with the amount of resources we have, so that is definitely not NZ’s fault.

I’d love another team in NZ (because heck your country is so spectacularly beautiful and it’s another excuse to visit) but it wouldn’t done for the money. It would be done to produce more players
 

Matiunz

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Hey siri what does 20 million Australian translate into kiwi dollars
At the moment it’s $21.77m (exchange rate fluctuates between that 10c over the dollar usually.
I used to think “yay 10% off” when I went back but it’s not that simple when it comes to buying power,
Eg 91 petrol
AU$1.85L
NZ$ 2.47L (2.27 AU)

There’s also tax rates to consider which I think NZ may leave u better off as an NRL player as I remember Cam George trying to use it as a selling point

2L Milk (home brand)
AU$3
NZ$3.93 (3.60 au)

Dozen Eggs (cheapest)
AU$5.40
NZ$8 (7.35 AU)

Royal Gala Apple
AU$0.62 ea
NZ$1.20 ea (1.10 AU)

it’s not black and white as there are some things cheaper and some things more expensive. But as a rule NZ gets ripped off badly for every day stuff. A trip to the supermarket is an eye opener

Housing is cheaper (barely) but the quality and stock is generally a lot older, I looked at buying in Napier/Hastings a couple of years back as an investment property and what I could get there (2 bedroom 1970s built(Napier) vs 2 bedroom 2000s built(Hills)) it was comparable in price to a unit in the hills district sydney - I was shocked
 

Matua

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At the moment it’s $21.77m (exchange rate fluctuates between that 10c over the dollar usually.
I used to think “yay 10% off” when I went back but it’s not that simple when it comes to buying power,
Eg 91 petrol
AU$1.85L
NZ$ 2.47L (2.27 AU)

There’s also tax rates to consider which I think NZ may leave u better off as an NRL player as I remember Cam George trying to use it as a selling point

2L Milk (home brand)
AU$3
NZ$3.93 (3.60 au)

Dozen Eggs (cheapest)
AU$5.40
NZ$8 (7.35 AU)

Royal Gala Apple
AU$0.62 ea
NZ$1.20 ea (1.10 AU)

it’s not black and white as there are some things cheaper and some things more expensive. But as a rule NZ gets ripped off badly for every day stuff. A trip to the supermarket is an eye opener

Housing is cheaper (barely) but the quality and stock is generally a lot older, I looked at buying in Napier/Hastings a couple of years back as an investment property and what I could get there (2 bedroom 1970s built(Napier) vs 2 bedroom 2000s built(Hills)) it was comparable in price to a unit in the hills district sydney - I was shocked
Where are you getting your petrol in Oz, that seems much cheaper than in my area.

Also, where are you getting your expensive double the price apples in NZ?

Housing is nuts in the Bay these days, I too looked at getting a place for a rental, and even Flaxmere was hitting $400k for a 3 bedroom.

It's weird, up until 2010 groceries were cheaper in NZ, John Campbell did a comparison in his 7:30 show. Since then it's been all one way. Although I have noticed that restaurant food is evening out, NZ always seemed more expensive on trips home but the inflation has closed that gap.
 

Matiunz

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Where are you getting your petrol in Oz, that seems much cheaper than in my area.

Also, where are you getting your expensive double the price apples in NZ?

Housing is nuts in the Bay these days, I too looked at getting a place for a rental, and even Flaxmere was hitting $400k for a 3 bedroom.

It's weird, up until 2010 groceries were cheaper in NZ, John Campbell did a comparison in his 7:30 show. Since then it's been all one way. Although I have noticed that restaurant food is evening out, NZ always seemed more expensive on trips home but the inflation has closed that gap.
I’m out Norwest, did notice the pump prices tend to go up the further East you got, play footy inner west and I’ll if I know I’m gonna need petrol I’ll fill before I leave.

Grocery prices I used were Woollies as it’s the same team for both countries, Pak n Save might be a little cheaper likewise New World would likely be higher etc. When I moved here 2013 I found it cheaper overall apart from the odd exceptions but also you kinda had essentially the one option with Cole’s/woollies being pretty much on par and the odd IGA if you wanted to shop local vs NZs Pak n Save - Countdown - New World scale of price/ “quality”

Aus has definitely spiked with food prices of late found even like a takeaway is not the cheap feed it once was
 

Gobsmacked

Bench
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I’m out Norwest, did notice the pump prices tend to go up the further East you got, play footy inner west and I’ll if I know I’m gonna need petrol I’ll fill before I leave.

Grocery prices I used were Woollies as it’s the same team for both countries, Pak n Save might be a little cheaper likewise New World would likely be higher etc. When I moved here 2013 I found it cheaper overall apart from the odd exceptions but also you kinda had essentially the one option with Cole’s/woollies being pretty much on par and the odd IGA if you wanted to shop local vs NZs Pak n Save - Countdown - New World scale of price/ “quality”

Aus has definitely spiked with food prices of late found even like a takeaway is not the cheap feed it once was
I couldn't believe the price of groceries in New world when I first got to NZ but eventually found relief at Pak n save .
New world is a rip off, I don't know why anyone would shop there.
 

Matua

First Grade
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I couldn't believe the price of groceries in New world when I first got to NZ but eventually found relief at Pak n save .
New world is a rip off, I don't know why anyone would shop there.
They used to be the main supermarket in every small town so that might partly explain it, and they tend to have a lot of say higher quality products, and when you factor in specials they're not as bad as it seems on face value. There's a New World and a Countdown (Woolworths) near each other on Queen St in Auckland and when I'm in Auckland city I'm usually at a hotel near them both and that city New World is often cheaper than the Countdown for the kind of junk food I'm getting when I go back home.
 

Gobsmacked

Bench
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They used to be the main supermarket in every small town so that might partly explain it, and they tend to have a lot of say higher quality products, and when you factor in specials they're not as bad as it seems on face value. There's a New World and a Countdown (Woolworths) near each other on Queen St in Auckland and when I'm in Auckland city I'm usually at a hotel near them both and that city New World is often cheaper than the Countdown for the kind of junk food I'm getting when I go back home.
Countdown- that's right, I forgot about that. Are they still going to rebran it to Woolworths ?
 

Matiunz

Juniors
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Countdown- that's right, I forgot about that. Are they still going to rebran it to Woolworths ?
It’s the NZ arm of Woollies (countdown even has the ‘Wapple’ logo) many have changed over and the rest will eventually, heaps of people still refer to it as countdown anyways
 

Gobsmacked

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It’s the NZ arm of Woollies (countdown even has the ‘Wapple’ logo) many have changed over and the rest will eventually, heaps of people still refer to it as countdown anyways
It was still countdown when I was there at the start of the year, always felt wrong calling it that lol
 

flippikat

First Grade
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Countdown- that's right, I forgot about that. Are they still going to rebran it to Woolworths ?
Rebrand pretty much done now. There might be a few Countdowns still having signage changed, but it's effectively Woolworths now.

Crazy that they didn't go with Woolworths all along.
 

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