Fair enough I don't think most of them see their 'leaders' as having authority any more than they see their elected representatives having authority. These people are chosen to serve, not to rule. I'd say 'admitting' is a bit of a dramatisation. It's not something I ever felt the need to hide any more than I felt the need to tell merkins. It just never came up in conversation until today in this thread. Except I don't feel drawn to hierarchical institutions. I'm actually a bit of a loner and only ever saw institutions as a resource, or a means to an end. I recognise their importance to society though. To paraphrase, I certainly don't think the forest would look better without the trees. Men in frocks are pretty funny though.