NRL crushes ratings record!!!

[Perth Red]

how so?

It’s very simplistic, for example the vast bulk of ptv revenue is from subscriptions. Nrl has a lot more viewers on ptv so fair to assume a lot more subscribers. So despite nrl delivering much greater revenue to ptv we consistently get a lower deal. That has nothing to do with content.

there are other key factors like metro city reach of each comp (where 90% of media marketing is spent), better negotiating abilities (going to open market not just extending with incumbents), atill not having nine games (our reluctance for th last decade to expand the game) and general perception of a national game v a two state game that all play a part in why we continue to get under valued in tv negotiations compared to afl.

 

[Perth Red]

The extension was announced roughly 12 months from the last deal running out, You aren't going to go into the last season without something locked in.

So say the NRL extends the deal for another season or 2. We wouldn't be seeing the Dolphins right now or the NRLW expansion this season.

So that is pushed back to say 2025. To start when the new TV deal starts. You aren't going to get team 18 during that deal. So you are looking at 2031 roughly before you have the 9th game.

Remembering the new deal is between $410-$450m a season. Lets say it is $430m for this exercise.

5 x $430m is $2.150b

The next deal starting in 2028 adds atleast $100m to that. I think as high as $550m.

2028 $550m
2029 $550m

= $3.25b total

As opposed too

remaining on
$380m

2023
2024

$500m

2025
2026
2027
2028
2029

= $3.2b

So you get to almost the same point with More teams.

No. No, no lol

its $402mill.
waiting 2 years and bringing in two clubs so we had 9th game to sell and getting $150mill a year more would have been a much much better outcome.

as it is we have one team coming in costing around $18mill a year and tv deal that is only going up $17mill Ish.

waiting for a new deal for 2025 At $550mill for Australian tv plus $32mill for skynz plus a bit more for the 2 year (23&24) extension would have seen us up $500mill ish in revenue from where we will be by 2028. That’s more than enough for two new clubs and an 18 team nrlw in 2025. Not waiting for three more years for club 18 and nrlw full comp.

you can’t spin this, it’s was a horrible outcome for the game.

 

[TheRam]

The game was much faster then and there was actual fatigue that would see the big players tire and the little players with skill run around them. That’s not a thing any more due to sports science and interchange.
Quarter time breaks will only add positives now.

You're talking out of your arse. You have no evidence to back this up at all. An idea that you came up with when sitting on the loo is not evidence. Some of my best fantasies come while on the loo too, but I seldom air them publically. You on the other hand, well this site seems to be your toilet of choice that we all at times have to suffer through. This is not a public loo T-Boon. You should learn to flush at home occasionally. Cheers

 

[Captain Apollo]

The game was much faster then and there was actual fatigue that would see the big players tire and the little players with skill run around them. That’s not a thing any more due to sports science and interchange.
Quarter time breaks will only add positives now.

"The game was much faster then..."?!



I've been watching rugby league since the late 1970s. If you think the game was "faster" back during the 1980s and even the early 1990s then man, you gotta stop taking those psychadelics as they've rotted your brain dude.

The games quite often would have upwards of 15-20 scrums, and 20 or more combined penalities. Players would kick for touch on the 5th tackle unless close to the goal line, to force a scrum. It was much slower, and there were far more stoppages in play. The only advantage is that with fair dinkum scrums, and contested play the balls, the game could be more unpredictable. Faster though? Not on your life!

 

[Wb1234]

"The game was much faster then..."?!

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I've been watching rugby league since the late 1970s. If you think the game was "faster" back during the 1980s and even the early 1990s then man, you gotta stop taking those psychadelics as they've rotted your brain dude.

My sister used to watch nrl around 2000 to 2010

I used to rave to her about the 89 grand final

so we watched it again

the standard was awful. Terrible

and that’s a grand final

 

[Pneuma]

My sister used to watch nrl around 2000 to 2010

I used to rave to her about the 89 grand final

so we watched it again

the standard was awful. Terrible

and that’s a grand final

Bit like watching 1960s comedies now. You think it will be hilarious but it’s almost unwatchable.

 

[Colk]

"The game was much faster then..."?!

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I've been watching rugby league since the late 1970s. If you think the game was "faster" back during the 1980s and even the early 1990s then man, you gotta stop taking those psychadelics as they've rotted your brain dude.

The games quite often would have upwards of 15-20 scrums, and 20 or more combined penalities. Players would kick for touch on the 5th tackle unless close to the goal line, to force a scrum. It was much slower, and there were far more stoppages in play. The only advantage is that with fair dinkum scrums, and contested play the balls, the game could be more unpredictable. Faster though? Not on your life!

It’s not just the pace it’s also the size. On average they are just a lot bigger and a lot faster.

 

[docbrown]

The more that people watch on ad-free subscription services, the less need there is to try to cram ads into the game. People are paying for the privilege of quality. They want a better standard of game, not more ads.

 

[Colk]

The more that people watch on ad-free subscription services, the less need there is to try to cram ads into the game. People are paying for the privilege of quality. They want a better standard of game, not more ads.

It does have the potential to be a game changer. It should help our game tremendously

 

[Iamback]

The more that people watch on ad-free subscription services, the less need there is to try to cram ads into the game. People are paying for the privilege of quality. They want a better standard of game, not more ads.

Yes but who is going to drop $30 a month to watch a single sport? So needs to have lots of content to make it viable still

 

[Perth Red]

Yes but who is going to drop $30 a month to watch a single sport? So needs to have lots of content to make it viable still

Be intersting to know if this has been tested but I’d suggest most people subscribe to kayo for one main sport they are interested in and maybe one or two sports they are peripherally interested in.

 

[docbrown]

Yes but who is going to drop $30 a month to watch a single sport? So needs to have lots of content to make it viable still

What are basing the $30 for one sport argument on?

You watch the next decade. Not every streamer will survive. They will merge and form content bundles, very much the same as what happened with cable.

 

[Wb1234]

Yes but who is going to drop $30 a month to watch a single sport? So needs to have lots of content to make it viable still

Why not

 

[Iamback]

Why not

Because how does the streamer stay viable in the off season for starters?

It is simply not viable

 

[Iamback]

What are basing the $30 for one sport argument on?

You watch the next decade. Not every streamer will survive. They will merge and form content bundles, very much the same as what happened with cable.

Because you are trying to recover $500m or so annually purely from subs, It is going to limit the spend on other areas.

Disney owns Fox and ESPN. It is the one that can cover the losses and it doesn't

 

[Perth Red]

Because how does the streamer stay viable in the off season for starters?

It is simply not viable

Because human nature is people can’t be arsed to change things. Most people,don’t change mortgages despite better options. Don’t turn off subscriptions once they are in place, vote for the same party regardless of how sht they are. Generally people are lazy thinkers.

 

[Wb1234]

Because how does the streamer stay viable in the off season for starters?

It is simply not viable

Make enough money during winter

foxtel didn’t have afl for ages and League was their main sport they did ok

but maybe cricket too

 

[Dark Corner]

I can think of a few hundred million reasons! I’ll give him this though. He’s got the game by the balls.
smith signed the biggest fta deal of all time and got sacked for it. Vlandys costs the game hundreds of millions of $s and people on here still think he’s the messiah! That takes some pretty clever positioning on his part. Mind you many believe Trump was the best president ever so no accounting for plebians stupidity.

Don't mention politics with Sport but saying that if you say Trump then I hope your not a Biden fan as I rather go back to 2016-2019 then see what has unfoled since the start of 2020.

 

[Iamback]

Make enough money during winter

foxtel didn’t have afl for ages and League was their main sport they did ok

but maybe cricket too

Fox isn't just sport though, What is the full package on Foxtel cost $120 a month?

Kayo still has a huge churn in Summer that is with the cricket.

How does Stan keep people paying when it has nothing of note in Summer?

 

[Wb1234]

Fox isn't just sport though, What is the full package on Foxtel cost $120 a month?

Kayo still has a huge churn in Summer that is with the cricket.

How does Stan keep people paying when it has nothing of note in Summer?

Sign up for the league then diconnect

they will know how much money they can make and bid accordingly