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NRL rebellion: Rugby league clubs want CEO Dave Smith gone or threaten to leave comp

bileduct

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What stops Foxtel, Channel 7 or 10 starting a breakaway comp....and offering the clubs more money and control of the game.

they can call it Super League !

Is this De ja Vu Again ?

Murdoch starts breakaway comp LOL
Murdoch lost hundreds of millions of dollars doing that last time, what makes you think he's going to try to do it again?

This butt hurt is all about channel 10. Channel 10 needed rugby league to rebuild itself.

Foxtel needs rugby league to stay alive.
 

strong_latte

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This deal was done in secret by David Smith.....

Problem 1 ... 12 clubs not signed on past 2017 and they have to approve.

Problem 2 gambling Foxtel will be desperate for NRL games...

Bullshit it was secret. Gould and Pappas have come out on Twitter and said all that Tele propaganda are blatant lies.
 

Tinkler

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Please tell me why David Smith Pissed off Fox and Murdoch by doing this deal in secret instead of involving all parties ?????

Even nine boss warned him why are you pissing off Fox and Murdoch ?

This is not how you treat powerful business partners... Murdoch is a powerful man... David Smith... thinks his Donald trump

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...over-secret-deal/story-e6frg996-1227493850374


Nine Network chief executive David *Gyngell advised under-fire *National Rugby League boss David Smith that he risked sidelining the code’s long-term partners Fox Sports and Telstra if he insisted on striking a TV rights deal without them.

Sources close to the $925 million talks said the NRL chief executive, and the chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission John Grant put pressure on Nine to enter exclusive talks with the code, casting Nine as the player holding the “catcher’s mitt”.

One source inside the secret talks said rugby league bosses became “very aggressive” in the weeks leading up to the August 10 announcement, and “railroaded” Nine as part of a controversial plot to split the rights.

“The NRL had taken a very firm view they wanted more games on free-to-air television,” a source said. “Nine was pushed into trying to do a free-to-air deal with the code whether they could or couldn’t. They pushed hard for a separate deal.”

It is said that Mr Gyngell tried to bring Fox Sports and Telstra to the table amid fears NRL bosses were cutting the pair “out of the deal” by leaving them “outside the room”.

The bombshell revelation shows Mr Smith was not only *determined to gain more expos*ure for the code on free-to-air television to raise the profile of the sport, but also at any cost, even if it meant souring relations with two major commercial *partners.

Fox Sports and Telstra have poured billions of dollars into the sport, standing firm with continued financial support even after the publication of a report two years ago into doping and links between sporting codes and organised crime.

There are also suggestions the code is in breach of its own governance standards for failing to enter into due diligence by sending an official tender *document.

Shortly before the NRL began a short exclusivity period with Nine to agree on the deal, Credit Suisse Australia chief John Knox, a key adviser to the NRL, met multiple bidders, *telling them the code would return* with an official tender document. The document was never sent, raising question about whether the NRL suffic*iently tested market demand to get the best possible price for its rights, and the league’s 16 clubs.

The NRL is now facing an *uncertain future after banking on a massive jump in the price of the rights. Broadcast revenue *accounts for the vast majority of the code’s annual revenue — $225.8m or 65 per cent of total revenue, according to last year’s annual report.

High-level sources at News Corp, which operates Fox Sports, warned that Mr Smith had devalued the remaining rights after handing two of the sports program provider’s highest-rating timeslots to Nine. (News Corp is publisher of The Australian.)

While Fox knew the NRL was keen to attain more free-to-air coverage and was prepared to work with the code, it was never told of a plan to sell the four top games in each round.

An NRL spokesman said: “We are back in negotiations and will not be discussing the TV rights deal any further until those negotiations are *concluded.”

Nine declined to comment.

Yesterday, The Australian revealed* that Telstra was seriously considering terminating its 17-season association as naming rights sponsor after the NRL awarded streaming rights to Nine, and also failed to give any warning.

Sources close to the telecommunications giant said Telstra, which has committed to spend $100m with the code under its current five-year deal, was close to tearing up the lucrative title sponsorship contract.

If so, the Telstra Premiership would need to be renamed and the ARL Commission, rugby league’s governing body, would have to start a search for a new naming rights partner.

The size of the rugby league deal was not only the biggest in Australian free-to-air TV history, it also marked a departure from the code selling the free-to-air components and pay-TV components in conjunction.

Fox Sports, Telstra and the Seven Network this week made the largest commitment to any football code in Australia, signing a record $2.508 billion deal with the Australian Football League for its TV and digital rights.

Growing disquiet about the rugby league deal has spread to the clubs, and 12 are *seriously considering not signing their participation agreements, sources say.
 
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Tinkler

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Murdoch lost hundreds of millions of dollars doing that last time, what makes you think he's going to try to do it again?

This butt hurt is all about channel 10. Channel 10 needed rugby league to rebuild itself.

Foxtel needs rugby league to stay alive.


David Smith is an idiot... why in the world would you do a secret deal allowing no other bidders... and pisss off a major business partner when you could have open transparent negotiations working with all parties involved..

Telstra and Fox.... are pisssed off as they should when they invested heavily...

they deserve input and chance to bid.
 

Perth Red

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David Smith is an idiot... why in the world would you do a secret deal allowing no other bidders... and pisss off a major business partner when you could have open transparent negotiations working with all parties involved..

Telstra and Fox.... are pisssed off as they should when they invested heavily...

they deserve input and chance to bid.

Hello sloth,mwelcome to the board. So far smith has delivered the biggest fta deal in the history of Australian sport. Let's give him chance to see if he can deliver the biggest overall deal before we make judgement on the nrl's tactics!

All clubs need to release a statement debunking the news ltd breakaway BS propaganda
 

Johnny88

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Please tell me why David Smith Pissed off Fox and Murdoch by doing this deal in secret instead of involving all parties ?????
Not sure why Seven and Ten were not involved. If they were the FTA rights would of been higher you would think
 

Perth Red

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Not sure why Seven and Ten were not involved. If they were the FTA rights would of been higher you would think

1. We don't know they weren't, you are taking news ltd journos as gospel
2. Maybe the nine record fta deal, well above anything offered before in any sport had a take it or leave it clause and the nrl decided it would not have. A hope of getting better?
3. Maybe seven were never in the game and ch10 deal was locked up with fox and the offer they were making wasn't close to nine?
 

Tinkler

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Hello sloth,mwelcome to the board. So far smith has delivered the biggest fta deal in the history of Australian sport. Let's give him chance to see if he can deliver the biggest overall deal before we make judgement on the nrl's tactics!

All clubs need to release a statement debunking the news ltd breakaway BS propaganda

Fox and telstra have invested heavily in the game and are valuable for exposure..

In business you don't screw with major customers...

He could of gotten same deal and in fact better with transparent bidding and negotiating process.
 

strong_latte

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David Smith is an idiot... why in the world would you do a secret deal allowing no other bidders... and pisss off a major business partner when you could have open transparent negotiations working with all parties involved..

Telstra and Fox.... are pisssed off as they should when they invested heavily...

they deserve input and chance to bid.

Do you work for Murdoch or something or are you just thick?

EVERYTHING THEY WRITE ON THIS IS MASSIVELY COMPROMISED.

Do you have the slightest notion of what a conflict of interest is?

Telstra and Fox knew about all of this. You're letting Murdoch play you for a fool, or you're just another one of his lackies and you think you can play us.

If it's the latter you're in the wrong place champ; we know the truth here.
 

Perth Red

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Fox and telstra have invested heavily in the game and are valuable for exposure..

In business you don't screw with major customers...

He could of gotten same deal and in fact better with transparent bidding and negotiating process.

Lol yeh right, despite paying less than they paid for afl and generally treating the game with total disrespect at every opportunity, news ltd have been great for RL in Australia!
 

Tinkler

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Companies, governments, customers and small business usually have at least 3 tenders to stop corruption and kickbacks...and getting the best deal. This is often a legal and compliance requirement.

David Smith... just said i will do this in secret...with one customer bidding against himself....
 

Tinkler

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Do you work for Murdoch or something or are you just thick?

EVERYTHING THEY WRITE ON THIS IS MASSIVELY COMPROMISED.

Do you have the slightest notion of what a conflict of interest is?

Telstra and Fox knew about all of this. You're letting Murdoch play you for a fool, or you're just another one of his lackies and you think you can play us.

If it's the latter you're in the wrong place champ; we know the truth here.

David Smith is the fool.... Nine was bidding against no one else....

how will anyone ever know what better deal could of been ?
 

strong_latte

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Fox and telstra have invested heavily in the game and are valuable for exposure..

In business you don't screw with major customers...

He could of gotten same deal and in fact better with transparent bidding and negotiating process.

f**k off dickhead.

Business ain't a charity! Fox and Tesltra "invest" in rugby league because it rates better than anything else.

We all know now that Fox was stalling for ACCC approval of its C10 involvement so they could field a non competitive bid and freeze out competition.

The NRL features up to 70 of Fox's most watched 100 programs most years (this year it was lower because of the cricket World Cup but it was still 49 of 100).

If Fox want to let their feelings get in the way of what is a critical product demanded by their subscriber base, then f**k THEM! They know ESPN is looking at our market and they're scared shitless.
 

strong_latte

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David Smith is the fool.... Nine was bidding against no one else....

how will anyone ever know what better deal could of been ?

Newsflash! The deal isn't done! Only the FTA part is done and guess what? It's better than AFL's!

Do you believe everything those slimy c#nts at the Tele tell you?
 

Perth Red

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David Smith is the fool.... Nine was bidding against no one else....

how will anyone ever know what better deal could of been ?

It's the best fta deal ever signed in any sport! You think 7 or 10 was going to better it? Your deluded. And whose to say there wasn't any negotiations? News ltd haha
 

bileduct

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David Smith is an idiot... why in the world would you do a secret deal allowing no other bidders... and pisss off a major business partner when you could have open transparent negotiations working with all parties involved..

Telstra and Fox.... are pisssed off as they should when they invested heavily...

they deserve input and chance to bid.
You post some absolute shit.
 

t-ba

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There are some gullible bitches/ridiculously obvious plants out here tonight.

How does News Feel being anchored to the infrastructure of dying formats? How does is feel knowing that practically no one born since the Moon Landings takes your papers seriously? How do you reckon it feels knowing that Foxtel is an EPL game pass and an NRL digital distribution platform away from sinking into the mire?
 
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strong_latte

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It's the best fta deal ever signed in any sport! You think 7 or 10 was going to better it? Your deluded. And whose to say there wasn't any negotiations? News ltd haha

These News Ltd c**k suckers have declared war on our game and they think they can peddle their lies on our forums and have us meekly accept their lies and propaganda.

Crawl back into your News Corpse hole Tinkler, and while you're at it, tell your master Rupert to go f**k himself
 

Tinkler

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It's the best fta deal ever signed in any sport! You think 7 or 10 was going to better it? Your deluded. And whose to say there wasn't any negotiations? News ltd haha

that's the FTA portion only... It was the biggest cause they gave all the best games to nine.
 

mongoose

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Fox and telstra have invested heavily in the game and are valuable for exposure..

In business you don't screw with major customers...

He could of gotten same deal and in fact better with transparent bidding and negotiating process.

even your posts come across like you are more worried for fox and telstra than the NRL LOL... poor Foxtel, won't the NRL go back to them, they have been such a loving and loyal girlfriend :lol:
 

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