NRL rebellion: Rugby league clubs want CEO Dave Smith gone or threaten to leave comp

[adamkungl]

None of those issues are breakaway comp stuff and most aren't things that clubs generally give two shit's about.

The ref thing is sensationalist bullshit, "crisis" has become more overused then "star"

nfi

* Clubs need $2.5m to $3m above what the players get paid to ensure clubs are profitable;

They want more money. Obvious.

* Grassroots rugby league needs to be fixed as well as bush football;

Again, obvious.

* Rule changes will come under the microscope following the recent shoulder charge fiasco;
* They want a clear understanding of how the NRL will fix what has been called a refereeing crisis;

Aside from straight up $, the biggest issue in the game right now. The NRLs cockups are affecting the clubs gate takings. The clubs can only do so much in promotion if people simply can't be arsed paying to watch NRL.

* There is also major concerns about plans to scrap the under 20s competition;
* Clubs also want the NRL to do more to help reduce costs for junior players;
* And administration costs associated to NRL head office must be halved.

Less important, probably still real issues.


These are not cause for a breakaway, but they are likely legitimate complaints that clubs want head office to answer. This is normal. Clubs will always want more support from the NRL, it's the clubs that keep the profits flowing.

Gould on twitter right now
"The TV money is the club's, player's and grassroot's money .. It's not the NRL's money "

^This is the key issue.

Obviously there has to be a balance. Clubs are short-sighted. The NRL needs and deserves money for expansion, internationals, other shit. But Clubs Players and Grassroots are what makes the actual sport happen.

 

[macavity]

Increase the cap, get rid of TPAs. The clubs should first and foremost be campaigning for fairness... But the ones with the advantages obviously don't want that.

 

[adamkungl]

Yep limit what the players can earn outside their club, good plan, that'll go down well.

 

[Sunshine Coast Tiger]

Simple for me really. After the crap that happened last time their was a split if there was another split in the game and no Tigers my interest would be gone in week to week rugby league after following it passionately since the late 70's, might watch the 3 SOO games each year.

I could easily devout my sports watching hours to EPL and NFL. Would still not even be tempted to watch a minute of AFL.

 

[bileduct]

It is understood eight clubs have already vowed to stand together in this fight.

Then name the f**king clubs.

Why would a news organisation withhold this information unless it was complete bullshit?

 

[ek999]

Increase the cap, get rid of TPAs. The clubs should first and foremost be campaigning for fairness... But the ones with the advantages obviously don't want that.

Comments like this makes me think people don't understand what a TPA is

 

[BadSport]

What absolute horseshit. The refs are no better or worse than they've always been.

Same shit as last year and the year before that.

 

[insert.pause]

Creepy is reaching massively with all of that, how can you "reveal" a meeting that has been scheduled for weeks? All clubs want more funding over & above the cap, it's been an issue all year and it's why the 12 clubs who haven't signed new participation agreements are collectively bargaining with the NRL, that is not an big issue. News Corp are just tying it in with a whole heap of peripheral issues to push their baseless attacks on Smith for their corporate agenda, it is a blatant abuse of journalistic ethics.

 

[adamkungl]

What absolute horseshit. The refs are no better or worse than they've always been.

Same shit as last year and the year before that.

The refs as individuals are as good or bad as ever.

The rulebook, the environment they are working in and their instructions as to how to referee games are at an all time low.

 

[adamkungl]

Creepy is reaching massively with all of that, how can you "reveal" a meeting that has been scheduled for weeks? All clubs want more funding over & above the cap, it's been an issue all year and it's why the 12 clubs who haven't signed new participation agreements are collectively bargaining with the NRL, that is not an big issue. News Corp are just tying it in with a whole heap of peripheral issues to push their baseless attacks on Smith for their corporate agenda, it is a blatant abuse of journalistic ethics.

Working for Rupert is a blatant abuse of journalistic ethics

 

[macavity]

Yep limit what the players can earn outside their club, good plan, that'll go down well.

Of course you would think that.

The reason for TPAs is to allow some clubs to legally rort the cap.

The reason to ban them is to level the playing field.

If the cap is high enough there is no need for them... Unless you want to allow some clubs an advantage over others.

 

[adamkungl]

Of course you would think that.

The reason for TPAs is to allow some clubs to legally rort the cap.

The reason to ban them is to level the playing field.

If the cap is high enough there is no need for them... Unless you want to allow some clubs an advantage over others.

Get a clue. The only advantage the Roosters have over Newcastle is that we have smart, successful people running the club. Newcastle have plodders like Matt Gidley in charge.

A completely level playing field is an unattainable goal. Someone's always going to be the worst.

What you're saying is that superstars shouldn't be able to earn any more than the fraction of the cap their club is allowed to pay them. Nike wants to run them in ads? Nope, not allowed.

 

[beave]

I've always wondered which TAFE Gidley attended to do his cert III in Business.........

 

[Tinkler]

This deal was done in secret by David Smith.....

Problem 1 ... 12 clubs not signed on past 2017 and they have to approve.

Problem 2 gambling Foxtel will be desperate for NRL games...

 

[Edwahu]

Get a clue. The only advantage the Roosters have over Newcastle is that we have smart, successful people running the club. Newcastle have plodders like Matt Gidley in charge.

A completely level playing field is an unattainable goal. Someone's always going to be the worst.

What you're saying is that superstars shouldn't be able to earn any more than the fraction of the cap their club is allowed to pay them. Nike wants to run them in ads? Nope, not allowed.

:lol:

Come on now...

 

[bileduct]

This deal was done in secret by David Smith.....

Problem 1 ... 12 clubs not signed on past 2017 and they have to approve.

Or what?

Problem 2 gambling Foxtel will be desperate for NRL games...

Of course they are desperate for NRL games. Foxtel is dead without NRL fans.

 

[Tinkler]

What stops Foxtel, Channel 7 or 10 starting a breakaway comp....and offering the clubs more money and control of the game.

they can call it Super League !

Is this De ja Vu Again ?

Murdoch starts breakaway comp LOL

 

[Tinkler]

Or what?


Of course they are desperate for NRL games. Foxtel is dead without NRL fans.

start a new comp giving the clubs more money... and each club has one person on the board..

I could see this ending in tears..

Murdoch has 2 years to start breakaway.

Super League part 2

 

[Kurt Angle]

How much money is 'more money'?

News Ltd would have to fork out $3 billion plus to get this working over 5 years. It'd be cheaper to pay Smith what he wants.

 

[BadSport]

The refs as individuals are as good or bad as ever.

The rulebook, the environment they are working in and their instructions as to how to referee games are at an all time low.

So worse than Daniel Anderson and the obstruction rule?

The crap that's going on now with the shoulder charge rule was always going to happen until a balance was struck. It's a bullshit rule so was always going to be hard. Same with concussion. But that's progress.

Gus isn't happy unless he has something to complain about so don't pay too much attention.

It's all the same shit as it always was, except they're more corporate and making more money.