nrl vs superleague

[macavity]

When the English learn defence, then we will talk.

I love watching the ESL on telly though.

Its like sevens with mobs of smelly feral poms screaming for blood.

and rediculous commentators.

love that shit.

do you all learn tackling from union coaches or something..?

 

[loiner81]

Let's put it in perspective.

They won by 7 on home soil against a side that had numerous Test players out and hadn't played one match in preparation. Leeds played 4 according to the commentators.

If the Dogs had played two matches in preparation, they would have won comfortably.

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now lets tell the truth...

leeds had a 90% home grown team out on the pitch which is surely a good thing. we had our player of the season in 2004 on the sidelines injured. the bulldogs had 10 gf winners on the field. we didn't play 4 proper warm up games. the leeds club played 4 games but these were played by mostly academy players with 2 or 3 first teamers getting 20 minute run outs.

if leeds had really prepared and were at full strength against the dogs team that showed up we seriously would have put 60 or 70 past them. both teams need to take the games more seriously.

the last time both teams took it seriously wigan won on your soil.

i agree with alot said here, we've got maye 4 strong teams right now but they ARE strong teams and the others are catching up slowly.

forget gb for now. our club level is where it's at for the forseeable future and that's where we'll continue to beat you.

 

[loiner81]

And that's been the problem for 30 years has it loiner?

:lol:

erm, er, erm :arrow:

seriously though, we do have the players to compete very well now but noble just didn't give them a chance. instead he went back and picked the same losers who've let the national team down time and again. i'm not saying we'll beat you everytime but we're very close with the right players on the field.

 

[loiner81]

When the English learn defence, then we will talk.

didn't gb keep the kangaroos scoreless for 40 minutes last year?
didn't the rhinos just but 39 points past your gf winners?

don't judge us on one game. we finished top of the trinations table, show a bit of respect for the improvements going on.

you know it's getting closer to the day when this forum is swamped with "poms" taking the piss big style after a 3-0 whitewash. just hope it's in my lifetime

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Let's put it in perspective.

They won by 7 on home soil against a side that had numerous Test players out and hadn't played one match in preparation. Leeds played 4 according to the commentators.

If the Dogs had played two matches in preparation, they would have won comfortably.

.

now lets tell the truth....

Lets.

leeds had a 90% home grown team out on the pitch which is surely a good thing. we had our player of the season in 2004 on the sidelines injured. the bulldogs had 10 gf winners on the field. we didn't play 4 proper warm up games. the leeds club played 4 games but these were played by mostly academy players with 2 or 3 first teamers getting 20 minute run outs.

Still, 4 warm-up matches is better than none, don't you think?

The Bulldogs were missing their playmaker Sherwin along with a number of other players and Anasta lasted a few minutes. Corey Hughes is a toiler at best. Swap Sherwin for him and the result would have been different.

If you claim they had 10 GF players playing, that means 7 Grand Final players were missing.

You're the 1/2 full guy, I'm the 1/2 empty guy.

if leeds had really prepared and were at full strength against the dogs team that showed up we seriously would have put 60 or 70 past them. both teams need to take the games more seriously.

That is borderline insane. Leeds had absolutely everything in their favour and won by 7. I doubt that there's an ESL team that could put 70 past one of the top 4 Premier League teams.

the last time both teams took it seriously wigan won on your soil.

Good God man, that was how long ago?

If the match just played had been played in Sydney with the Dogs having a decent preparation, the Dogs would have wiped the floor with Leeds.

I think it is a sham at the moment. Until it's played when both sides have had some sort of decent preparation, it will remain a sham and a game that only the Poms and the fans of the Australian team playing can get excited over.

i agree with alot said here, we've got maye 4 strong teams right now but they ARE strong teams and the others are catching up slowly.

I watch the ESL when it's on Fox here and if anyone seriously considers it to be equal to the NRL they are cetifiable. There is a long, long, long way to go.

forget gb for now. our club level is where it's at for the forseeable future and that's where we'll continue to beat you.

Bollocks.

We could probably send a prison side to Pomgolia and make the ESL top 6.

If you don't have everything in your favour, your teams just won't win.

The National side is a prime example. You're well in it whilst we're underprepared but as soon as we've settled in, bang, it all goes pear-shaped for you.

Simple.

You guys just have to get over it. Penis envy isn't a good look.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I'm not like these other whining pussies you'll see here who think that the International game suffers due to our overwhelming superiority. I'm quite happy for Australia to belt the Poms by 40 every time.

And I don't think it's the Poms we have to worry about.

It's the Kiwis we have to worry about.

 

[macavity]

if leeds had really prepared and were at full strength against the dogs team that showed up we seriously would have put 60 or 70 past them. both teams need to take the games more seriously.

That is borderline insane. Leeds had absolutely everything in their favour and won by 7. I doubt that there's an ESL team that could put 70 past one of the top 4 Premier League teams.

I disagree. they could put 70 on.

they would concede 60 though.

:lol:

seriously, you poms do realise we actually watch ESL games dont you? those of us with FOX (most RL fans) get 3 ESL games a week plus updates.

your offence is decent.

but your defenceis shite.

your teams dont have the fitness or discipline of the top NRL teams.

your delusion to the contrary is laughable.

 

[loiner81]

leeds had a 90% home grown team out on the pitch which is surely a good thing. we had our player of the season in 2004 on the sidelines injured. the bulldogs had 10 gf winners on the field. we didn't play 4 proper warm up games. the leeds club played 4 games but these were played by mostly academy players with 2 or 3 first teamers getting 20 minute run outs.

Still, 4 warm-up matches is better than none, don't you think?

erm, not when the first team aren't playing???? !!
they may as well not bother

The Bulldogs were missing their playmaker Sherwin along with a number of other players and Anasta lasted a few minutes. Corey Hughes is a toiler at best. Swap Sherwin for him and the result would have been different.

If you claim they had 10 GF players playing, that means 7 Grand Final players were missing.

You're the 1/2 full guy, I'm the 1/2 empty guy.

but you say below that a prison team woud do well? how can that be when 10 grand final winners and your "next big things" can't even beat a leeds team playing a warm up???

see i can twist things too.

if leeds had really prepared and were at full strength against the dogs team that showed up we seriously would have put 60 or 70 past them. both teams need to take the games more seriously.

That is borderline insane. Leeds had absolutely everything in their favour and won by 7. I doubt that there's an ESL team that could put 70 past one of the top 4 Premier League teams.

i didn't say against a top 4 premier team. i said against the dogs team that turned up to play and bar 15 minutes of good play they were embarrassingly bad. passing inside your own goal line to no one?? even our amateurs don't do that.

the last time both teams took it seriously wigan won on your soil.

Good God man, that was how long ago?

oh, i see, it's ok for you guys to talk about games from years ago but not us?? someone here earlier listed games going back to 97 that you won. he forgot to mention any british wins.... i'm just redressing the balance.

If the match just played had been played in Sydney with the Dogs having a decent preparation, the Dogs would have wiped the floor with Leeds.

sorry but you just don't know that for certain. leeds annihilated all in their way last season. it would be a good game if the 2 met at full strength.

I think it is a sham at the moment. Until it's played when both sides have had some sort of decent preparation, it will remain a sham and a game that only the Poms and the fans of the Australian team playing can get excited over.

i agree.

forget gb for now. our club level is where it's at for the forseeable future and that's where we'll continue to beat you.

Bollocks.
We could probably send a prison side to Pomgolia and make the ESL top 6.

you send a prison side every time don't you?
aren't you all ex criminals? joke!!!!

The National side is a prime example. You're well in it whilst we're underprepared but as soon as we've settled in, bang, it all goes pear-shaped for you.

bollocks. the last series was very close and we lost in the last few minutes of each game which shows things are getting closer. in the tri nations you played 1 perfect 40 minutes where everything came off, it happens at club level and international level. the rest of the series you were no better or worse than nz or gb.

You guys just have to get over it. Penis envy isn't a good look.

you need to get over yourself mate. being a penis isn't a good look.

 

[loiner81]

I disagree. they could put 70 on.
they would concede 60 though. :lol:

seriously, you poms do realise we actually watch ESL games dont you? those of us with FOX (most RL fans) get 3 ESL games a week plus updates.

your offence is decent.
but your defence is shite.

your teams dont have the fitness or discipline of the top NRL teams.

your delusion to the contrary is laughable.

leeds are very well disciplined unlike the thugs that showed up on friday.
their defence was more than shite and hunslet would have put 20 past them in that first half.

your delusions of grandeur are a joke.

your graciousness in defeat is even worse.

 

[loiner81]

if you want to talk stats....

p w d l f a difference
Roosters 24 19 0 5 710 368 342
leeds 28 24 2 2 1037 443 594

 

[Ghoulies]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

 

[Charge]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

 

[Ghoulies]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

Or... your defence is worse.

 

[Charge]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

Or... your defence is worse.

Naa, definately better attack or the Bulldogs wouldn't have conceded so much. NRL clubs wouldn't be able to cope with the ESL attacking style. ;-)

I do agree that a one off game doesn't really show the true nature of a sport, but if you look over the last 10 years British teams have won well over 65% of the matches, so it seems the ESL is better after all. ;-)

 

[strong_latte]

the last time both teams took it seriously wigan won on your soil.

No you moron, thats totally incorrect ;-) . When will you stop vomiting all this bullshit in our direction? The last time Both countries took it seriously... and let me put this in bold so you don't ignore it this time: THE ROOSTERS HUMILIATED ST HELENS WITH A 38-0 THRASHING ON YOUR SOIL!!! Get it? Thats what happens when WE prepare!

 

[strong_latte]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

Or... your defence is worse.

Naa, definately better attack or the Bulldogs wouldn't have conceded so much. NRL clubs wouldn't be able to cope with the ESL attacking style. ;-).

AGAIN!!! Roosters V St Helens 2 years ago! 38-0 to the mighty tri colours! Yeah go the ESL attacks style! way to put points on the roosters!

 

[Charge]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

Or... your defence is worse.

Naa, definately better attack or the Bulldogs wouldn't have conceded so much. NRL clubs wouldn't be able to cope with the ESL attacking style. ;-).

AGAIN!!! Roosters V St Helens 2 years ago! 38-0 to the mighty tri colours! Yeah go the ESL attacks style! way to put points on the roosters!

And that year the Roosters were the world champs, and the NRL was ahead of the ESL. Times change, and now the Bulldogs are the best team in Aus, and Leeds are the best in the world.

 

[strong_latte]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

Or... your defence is worse.

Naa, definately better attack or the Bulldogs wouldn't have conceded so much. NRL clubs wouldn't be able to cope with the ESL attacking style. ;-).

AGAIN!!! Roosters V St Helens 2 years ago! 38-0 to the mighty tri colours! Yeah go the ESL attacks style! way to put points on the roosters!

And that year the Roosters were the world champs, and the NRL was ahead of the ESL. Times change, and now the Bulldogs are the best team in Aus, and Leeds are the best in the world.

Best team in the world??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry mate, but thats just beyond commical! Considering how close the doggies came to winning that with the majority of their game breakers out and no warm up or a coach taking the match seriously, I think Bulldogs should be crownd honorary WCC's for doing so well with a less than half arsed approach!

 

[strong_latte]

Anyway you look at it though, the NRL supports 16 teams with a high amount of decent through the top 8 and a decent amount of deapth through the rest of the comp... the ESL struggles to maintain 12 teams with any sort of deapth and resort to importing has-beens from Aus and NZ... Also want to talk about skill and deapth? Well have you ever compared Australia's State of Origin between Qld and NSW to Englands version between Lankshire and Yorkshire? would you want to have the British SOO champs play the Australian SOO champs? I didn't think so.

 

[Charge]

Whats that got to do with it? They're playing in completely different competitions. If anything you've just shown how our competitions depth is much greater than yours.

No, it shows that our attack is better than yours.

Bulldogs found this out on Friday night

Or... your defence is worse.

Naa, definately better attack or the Bulldogs wouldn't have conceded so much. NRL clubs wouldn't be able to cope with the ESL attacking style. ;-).

AGAIN!!! Roosters V St Helens 2 years ago! 38-0 to the mighty tri colours! Yeah go the ESL attacks style! way to put points on the roosters!

And that year the Roosters were the world champs, and the NRL was ahead of the ESL. Times change, and now the Bulldogs are the best team in Aus, and Leeds are the best in the world.

Best team in the world??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry mate, but thats just beyond commical! Considering how close the doggies came to winning that with the majority of their game breakers out and no warm up or a coach taking the match seriously, I think Bulldogs should be crownd honorary WCC's for doing so well with a less than half arsed approach!

To be the best team you must know how to properly prepare for an important international as well as have strength in depth. Leeds will have their name written on the only trophy that shows who is the best club team in the world. It doesn't matter how you get there, in 10 years people will only remember that it was a victory for Leeds.