NSW Fullback - Kurt Gidley?

[lockyno1]

All the "utilities" are generally hooker/utilities- wing, berrigan, etc. Preston Campbell is one I would consider about the same level as Kidley yet I don't see anyone advocating his nclusion.

 

[Misanthrope]

Preston Campbell is one I would consider about the same level as Kidley yet I don't see anyone advocating his nclusion.

Perhaps because he'd be a terrible option anywhere in the forward pack. Hell, his work at fullback last week didn't convince me he's much good there either.

 

[lockyno1]

Perhaps because he'd be a terrible option anywhere in the forward pack. Hell, his work at fullback last week didn't convince me he's much good there either.

And Gidley is convincing you how..as he aint playing in the forwards you know. Preston has played fullback, half, 5/8, and hooker. That is plenty of utility.

 

[DeeGan]

Name every NSW Origin side since 1980 (oh hell - have a look at QLD as well) with a specialist hooker on the bench.

Look forward to reading.

Funnily enough, no reply from Locky no1 ... not surprised in the slightest :lol:

Selecting a specialist hooker on the bench like Robbie Farrah is stupid move and one that wll not be entertained by the NSW selectors who have a bit of a clue unlike the member who aired such an idea.

Let's see ... 30 y.o. Preston Campbell or 25 y.o. Kurt Gidley? Hmm ... no brainer AGAIN. The selectors take the younger man who will play fullback, wing, centre, five-eight, halfback and hooker. Gidley is a great front on defender unlike Preston.

Robbie Farrah either starts or misses out all together.

 

[Brad Joyce]

Is McKinnon available for City or Country? And who is in his way as far as selection goes for whichever particular side he is available for?

 

[DeeGan]

Is McKinnon available for City or Country? And who is in his way as far as selection goes for whichever particular side he is available for?

Good question - I do believe it is City however I could be wrong.

Who would be in his way selection wise?

Well Brett Hodgson is the City and NSW fullback - so he is one. On form however, McKinnon is well ahead of Hodgson who looks to be feeling his way back.

Anthony Minichiello is the other. Mini is a City player though if he plays for Australia (which I think he will) in May, he is not considered for City v Country as aren't all the Test players.

 

[borat]

No, I want him in the side because of his utility value. Having a hooker on the bench is a waste. If Danny doesn't get injured, Farah gets a five or ten minute spell. Since we don't have a Bowen to throw on the bench, Kidley is a good option. He has a great running game and can cover most any position. Farah is a great player, but the NSW side does not need two hookers when Buderus is capable of playing the majority of the game when fit.



A year ago 'super coach' Michael Hagan insisted on using him as our chief playmaker in Joey's absence.

He is not in Hornby's class when it comes to utility value because Gidley is a rubbish half. There is no point having a utility on the bench who can play 8 positions but only play 1 or 2 well. I am also far from convinced that Kurt Gidley could play anywhere in the pack whereas Hornby has successfully played at dummy half last year, in Newcastle for example and carved up.

It was only last year when plenty of Knights supporters as you know CWB were even questioning Kurt Gidley's place in the team let alone at fullback. He is a good all round footballer but never seems to be able to master any one position. We are 2 games into the season, lets see how he is going by halfway.

 

[Misanthrope]

And Gidley is convincing you how..as he aint playing in the forwards you know.

He played dummy half for good periods of the game in the past two rounds - whenever Seu Seu left the field. That shifted Polglase into fullback.

He is not in Hornby's class when it comes to utility value because Gidley is a rubbish half.

A rubbish half as the sole playmaker. His support of Mullen on Friday night was one of the reason's we beat your mob. A little fresher in my memory than the game last year.

I am also far from convinced that Kurt Gidley could play anywhere in the pack whereas Hornby has successfully played at dummy half last year, in Newcastle for example and carved up.

I draw your attention to my response to lockyno1's concerns. Kidley has played a lot of dummy half in the last two weeks and carved up. His defence is so far ahead of Hornby or Campbell's that it's not even funny.

It was only last year when plenty of Knights supporters as you know CWB were even questioning Kurt Gidley's place in the team let alone at fullback.

Nobody ever questioned his validity in the side. We questioned his validity as a five eighth. Knights fans have been calling for him to play centre for years, and the move to fullback position is at least one he's played at junior level.

I agree that we need more time to rate him - but if we're going on current form, he'd be leagues ahead of Hornby, for one.

 

[AusKnightRKO]

Ok Im a Knights Supporter... And Kidley s playing great but 2 games doesn't Put a SOO Jersey On your back....if they going for a hooker Farah is a shoe in....Even though if he can get back into form quick id have Dean Young in the team over both kidley and farah for the bench spot... For Fullback Mini Or Ben Hornby Pending on form

 

[mxlegend99]

FFS, these guys suggesting Kidley ahead of Farah and Hornby are as biased as they come.

Hornby/Farah/Gower/Wing are all ahead of Kidley for utility, assuming none get a starting position. In both the mind of the Blues selectors, and talent.

 

[macavity]

lets just see huh

kids keeps it up, im confident he will be on the bench or at the back.

 

[mxlegend99]

At the back? NEVER going to happen. Not even a remote chance IMO.

The bench? Injuries to the right people and it could definitely happen. After Finch getting a go at halfback last year, i won't rule that out.

 

[Misanthrope]

Hornby/Farah/Gower/Wing are all ahead of Kidley for utility, assuming none get a starting position. In both the mind of the Blues selectors, and talent.

Haven't watched the Roosters play this year, huh? Wing looks terrible. Gower's never going to see a rep jersey again given his habitual ability to do stupid sh*t off the field. Farah can play hooker and that's it - so he'll not play unless Buderus is injured.

You say we're biased as they come - yet you name Gower when he'd be about third or fourth in the halves pecking order :roll:

 

[mxlegend99]

Haven't watched the Roosters play this year, huh? Wing looks terrible. Gower's never going to see a rep jersey again given his habitual ability to do stupid sh*t off the field. Farah can play hooker and that's it - so he'll not play unless Buderus is injured.

You say we're biased as they come - yet you name Gower when he'd be about third or fourth in the halves pecking order :roll:

3rd or 4th like last year when he was FIRST in the pecking order last year? While in an out of form team, and not the best form himself? He was then injured and straight into the team for Origin 3 when he was fit.

Gower is an experienced and safe option for Origin. It's not biased to put him as one of 4 possiblities for a Utility if he isn't selected as the halfback. It's plain stupid not to think he is a strong possibility. If you saw him play last weekend, he played his best game in quiet a while.

Wing, he is playing like sh*t now, yeah. But he got selected last year, as did Finch and Anasta... all of whom were crap. The selectors seem to stick with guys with experience. Only trying something new when their hand is forced.

 

[Misanthrope]

Gower has never performed at rep level. He's like Barrett in that respect. If Joey isn't fit, I expect Orford to get the halfback nod.

 

[MSIH]

Gower has never performed at rep level. He's like Barrett in that respect.

Is that sh*t legit? Barrett played his best football in Origin, consistently.

I don't know what your arguing, but judging by that comment, you're wrong.

 

[lockyno1]

Orford is just as bad in rep games.

 

[Pistol]

i dont think you can guage Orford on City / Country games

Wing is no chance of making Origin

only reason he made it last year was nobody else was available

 

[mxlegend99]

Gower has never performed at rep level. He's like Barrett in that respect. If Joey isn't fit, I expect Orford to get the halfback nod.

WTF? Both those guys have performed at rep level. Orford is the biggest choker under pressure of any halfback in contention.

:crazy:

What drugs are you on?

 

[Misanthrope]

Is that sh*t legit? Barrett played his best football in Origin, consistently.

Yeah, got my wires crossed there. Barrett can't perform at club level, which is what I meant to say (as in 'He's like the anti-Barrett in that respect').

I can't recall ever seeing Gower play a convincing game at any rep level beyond the circus that is City vs. Country.