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NSW State Of Origin Team Game 1 2009

Joe's Magpies

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put michael jennings inside monas and piss hayne off altogether (do you honestly think he deserves to play origin based on current form?) and piss off mason for a watmough or someone else with a bit of ticker and i would be more than happy to see that side run out.

i also don't believe robbie farah has the "heart" to be good in origin... when the chips are down that is... however i do think he's earned first crack at it.

And how do you know that. In games this season when the tigers have been behind, he has brought them back into the game on a number of occations . Two examples are the Canberra & Penrith games.

If you think that Farah has'nt got the heart for origin then you have got no clue whatsover.
 

macavity

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Stewart moves out of fullback to accomodate a player who isn't better than him at fullback? More fail

fail by you.

it is the best option NSW have by a long way.

Gidley and Stewart bring different things to the team. both valuable.

Gidley brings energy, some playmaking skills, great defence, back up play and the best kick return in the business.

Stewart brings explosive speed and back up play.

Stewart can be just as valuable at wing as at fullback.

what can he not do on the wing that he can do at fullback?

still there for kick returns.

still there for attacking kicks

still there for high balls

still there for back up play

give him a Blacklock style roving commission, and he is arguably more valuable on the wing.

it is so obviously the best solution, and only complete geniuss can't see that.
 

abrichta

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fail by you.

it is the best option NSW have by a long way.

Gidley and Stewart bring different things to the team. both valuable.

Gidley brings energy, some playmaking skills, great defence, back up play and the best kick return in the business.

Stewart brings explosive speed and back up play.

Stewart can be just as valuable at wing as at fullback.

what can he not do on the wing that he can do at fullback?

still there for kick returns.

still there for attacking kicks

still there for high balls

still there for back up play

give him a Blacklock style roving commission, and he is arguably more valuable on the wing.

it is so obviously the best solution, and only complete geniuss can't see that.

Completely disagree with you, by putting Stewart on the wing they are losing so much more than they are gaining.

Stewart's success at fullback is due to his ability to read a game so well, his defence is tremendous and he is much safer under the high ball.

NSW will gain the most out of him in attack where he can roam about and create try scoring opportunites. His success at scoring tries and assisting tries is all due this ability..

Putting him on the wing is a complete waste and by putting Gidley there you are getting rid of someone who is better in that position.

If you watch his tries most of them are from backing up a player where noone else would have, a winger cannot do this.

Only a genius would say that Stewart will be as valuable at wing as fullback, that is just so bloody stupid, they are completely different, and even more so with stewart in the way that he plays at fullback.
 
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fail by you.

it is the best option NSW have by a long way.

Gidley and Stewart bring different things to the team. both valuable.

Gidley brings energy, some playmaking skills, great defence, back up play and the best kick return in the business.

Stewart brings explosive speed and back up play.

Stewart can be just as valuable at wing as at fullback.

what can he not do on the wing that he can do at fullback?

still there for kick returns.

still there for attacking kicks

still there for high balls

still there for back up play

give him a Blacklock style roving commission, and he is arguably more valuable on the wing.

it is so obviously the best solution, and only complete geniuss can't see that.

lol

Stewart is by far the best fullback, so why would you move the superior fullback out of position to accomodate the inferior one?

You don't even comprehend that Stewart will probably see a lot less ball out on the wing, thus, nullfying what he does best. His try against the Tigers where Watmough drew in defenders and created a gap for Stewart to run 30 odd metres is a perfect example of why he must be fullback.

The only fail is you didn't wipe Gidley semen off your chin, but you probably wear it as a badge of honour anyway.
 

abrichta

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lol

Stewart is by far the best fullback, so why would you move the superior fullback out of position to accomodate the inferior one?

You don't even comprehend that Stewart will probably see a lot less ball out on the wing, thus, nullfying what he does best. His try against the Tigers where Watmough drew in defenders and created a gap for Stewart to run 30 odd metres is a perfect example of why he must be fullback.

The only fail is you didn't wipe Gidley semen off your chin, but you probably wear it as a badge of honour anyway.

:thumb
 

macavity

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Stewart is by far the best fullback, so why would you move the superior fullback out of position to accomodate the inferior one?

no, he isn't.

there is a gnats dick between them and one could argue either way depending on what you value more.

both in the team playing 80mins is the best outcome. it seems only you and your circle-jerk buddy there take offence at that fact.

You don't even comprehend that Stewart will probably see a lot less ball out on the wing, thus, nullfying what he does best. His try against the Tigers where Watmough drew in defenders and created a gap for Stewart to run 30 odd metres is a perfect example of why he must be fullback.

wingers can end up seeing just as much ball if they look for it.

The only fail is you didn't wipe Gidley semen off your chin, but you probably wear it as a badge of honour anyway.

yeah wank on.

you should hit stewart up for the lovin you crave, but perhaps he doesn't like it when it is offered up.
 
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Yes, he is the best fullback in the competition, atleast from NSW, and scores tries regularly for anybody he plays for.

Wingers can see as much ball with half the room aswell. Brett Stewart's signature try, like Minichiello's in his prime, is running off the short pass into a gap. That is what he does best.

You still have some Gidley sperm on your face, just above your lips.
 

abrichta

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there is a gnats dick between them and one could argue either way depending on what you value more.
Wrong, would Gidley be considered for Aus fullback? No.





wingers can end up seeing just as much ball if they look for it.
This may be true, but you obviously aren't smart enough to see how different the styles of play are, it doesn't take a genius to see that Stewart's success at fullback is for a reason, he cannot replicate this at wing.

I would much rather have a specialist winger than Stewart there.
 

perverse

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lol, how about you dribblers rebutt the arguments... instead of just subjective "blah blah" with a few insults thrown in?

a winger *can* back up players and rove the middle of the field. why can't NSW come up with a customized game plan and structure to accomodate both? we sure need to try something a little unorthodox, because the same old sh*t hasn't been working for the past 3 years - and it wont work this year either. if we want to win this years origin, we have to model the gameplan around the 2 best players in the state at the moment. i've got very little doubt these are kurt gidley and brett stewart. both should be involved for 80 mins. what i am saying is that just because he has a number 2 on his back, doesn't mean stewart has to play a traditional wingers role.

or... you guys can just go back to the petty name-calling and insular, close minded bullsh*t that you've been pushing forward in recent posts. i don't really give a sh*t either way. it's pretty certain that the selectors will fudge the team badly regardless.
 
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If you don't give a sh*t then why did you come in? It's quite clear that macavity is speaking with a hard on.

Stewart is easily the better fullback over Gidley, so why would you move the better one to accomodate the one who isn't better?
 

Jebediah

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NSW might find the playmaker they're looking for in this team-

1. Preston Campbell
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Luke Lewis
4. Jamie Lyon
5. Kurt Gidley
6. Terry Campese
7. Peter Wallace
8. Todd Payton
9. Robbie Farah
10. Willie Mason
11. John Sutton
12. Feleti Mateo
13. Braith Anasta
14. Craig Wing
15. Mick Ennis
16. Ben Hornby
17. Trent Barrett
 

perverse

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If you don't give a sh*t then why did you come in? It's quite clear that macavity is speaking with a hard on.

Stewart is easily the better fullback over Gidley, so why would you move the better one to accomodate the one who isn't better?
lol, i said i don't give a sh*t about how you choose to respond.. not about the issue at hand.

as for your question, it's simple really. stewart has pace. bucketloads of it. gidley does not. they both offer completely different games from fullback... both of which would be massive beneficial to NSW to utilize concurrently. i have already outlined - in detail - many advantages and possibilities that could be created by having them both on the field at the same time... whilst you continue to chose to ignore them for the simple minded, bland and 1 dimensional argument that poor stewart is somehow getting shafted. what i'm proposing is nothing of the sort.
 

GB!

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nsw Might Find The Playmaker They're Looking For In This Team-

1. preston Campbell
2. jarryd Hayne
3. luke Lewis
4. jamie Lyon
5. kurt Gidley
6. terry Campese
7. peter Wallace
8. todd Payton
9. robbie Farah
10. willie Mason
11. john Sutton
12. feleti Mateo
13. braith Anasta
14. craig Wing
15. mick Ennis
16. ben Hornby
17. trent Barrett


fail!
 

Vicious

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1. Brett Stewart (no contest, far and away the best fullback in NSW)
2.David Williams
3.Colin Best
4.Michael Jennings
5.Joel Monaghan
6.Terry Campese
7.Peter Wallace
13.Glenn Stewart
12.Anthony Watmough
11.Nathan Hindmarsh
10.Brent Kite
9.Michael Ennis
8.Michael Weyman

14.Robbie Farah
15.Anthony Tupou
16.Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
17.Keith Galloway

*** Plenty of size, plenty of points scoring ability and plenty of impact off the bench
 

macavity

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Wrong, would Gidley be considered for Aus fullback? No.

yes, he would be considered

This may be true, but you obviously aren't smart enough to see how different the styles of play are, it doesn't take a genius to see that Stewart's success at fullback is for a reason, he cannot replicate this at wing.

I would much rather have a specialist winger than Stewart there.

doesn't take a genuis to see, as perverse has said, that a gameplan can be formulated to play to their strengths - and that this is the best outcome for NSW. Hell doesn't even take a forrest gump to see that. I wonder why you two can't...

face it, Gidley is one of NSW' top 2-3 players and will start somewhere - Bellamy will make sure of it. NSW are a much stronger team with him in the 1 than in the 6, 7 or 9 - a real prospect.

I don't see the issue with having both Gids and Stewart on the field at the same time - swapping around, playing to their strengths, each bringing something different - let alone how it is so controversial.

It also allows the make up of the bench to be much more useful, and allows us to pick the halves and hooker we need.

TT, it is noted that your argument consists exclusively of opinion stated as fact and juvenile insults.

you are quite possibly the biggest puckwit on this forum. congratulations.
 

League Legend

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NSW might find the playmaker they're looking for in this team-

1. Preston Campbell
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Luke Lewis
4. Jamie Lyon
5. Kurt Gidley
6. Terry Campese
7. Peter Wallace
8. Todd Payton
9. Robbie Farah
10. Willie Mason
11. John Sutton
12. Feleti Mateo
13. Braith Anasta
14. Craig Wing
15. Mick Ennis
16. Ben Hornby
17. Trent Barrett

1. Preston Campbell<<Won't happen
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Luke Lewis<<Nope
4. Jamie Lyon<<Donesn't want to play
5. Kurt Gidley <<Not gonna happen, he's not a winger
6. Terry Campese
7. Peter Wallace
8. Todd Payton<<Prob deserves a spot but I don't think he will get it
9. Robbie Farah
10. Willie Mason<<:oops:
11. John Sutton<<:crazy:
12. Feleti Mateo<<:crazy:
13. Braith Anasta<<:crazy:11. 12. 13. non of these guys will take the hard yards
14. Craig Wing
15. Mick Ennis
16. Ben Hornby
17. Trent Barrett

Great bench, no Props, No backrowers.

I hope NSW go with this side. \\\\:D/
 
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1. Brett Stewart (no contest, far and away the best fullback in NSW)
2.David Williams
3.Colin Best
4.Michael Jennings
5.Joel Monaghan
6.Terry Campese
7.Peter Wallace
13.Glenn Stewart
12.Anthony Watmough
11.Nathan Hindmarsh
10.Brent Kite
9.Michael Ennis
8.Michael Weyman

14.Robbie Farah
15.Anthony Tupou
16.Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
17.Keith Galloway

*** Plenty of size, plenty of points scoring ability and plenty of impact off the bench

Never thought of Best.
 

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