organised crime and juice of the elephant pt V

[butchmcdick]

Watching the press conference from Essendon with Lindsay tanner and xavier somebody

They as representatives of Essendon are upset the players are suspended as they did nothing wrong. Ok, if the players shouldn't be suspended then the club that gave them the injections should be obliterated

you can't have it both ways

I might be wrong but the Sargent Schultz defence isn't applicable

Now Lindsay tanner is trying to blame WADA, saying the code is geared towards individual sports

How do the hockey players and other team sports that play in the olympics cope ?

He keeps saying the players are not culpable. Well who is then ?

 

[butchmcdick]

Don't you love journalists

" is this the worst day in essendons history ?"

 

[no name]

Watching the press conference from Essendon with Lindsay tanner and xavier somebody

They as representatives of Essendon are upset the players are suspended as they did nothing wrong. Ok, if the players shouldn't be suspended then the club that gave them the injections should be obliterated

you can't have it both ways

I might be wrong but the Sargent Schultz defence isn't applicable

Now Lindsay tanner is trying to blame WADA, saying the code is geared towards individual sports

How do the hockey players and other team sports that play in the olympics cope ?

He keeps saying the players are not culpable. Well who is then ?

Gil was going down that path.
The WADA code doesn't suit the 'culture' of AFL.

 

[no name]

Don't you love journalists

" is this the worst day in essendons history ?"

Who could forget the Great Bogger Lockout of '86?

 

[LESStar58]

Lol at Smith.

It's already a small, insular competition!

 

[gUt]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-...an-wada-decision-upheld/7083088?section=sport

Club 'mystified' by findings against individual players

Essendon chairman Lindsay Tanner:



"We had prepared for the possibility, but to be honest we didn't think it was likely.


"We, like I think everybody else in the Essendon ... community was shocked by the decision and particularly shocked by the adverse finding against the players.


"We don't believe that's justified. We are mystified by the fact that that finding was made when that accusation was not even leveled at them in the AFL tribunal process."

Essendon chairman Lindsay Tanner:

The Essendon Football Club again apologies to our players for failing them in 2012.


We will continue to provide them with every support and guidance. The club also apologies to the players' families, who have shared their journey over the past three years.


To our Members, our partners, and our supporters, we also apologise.
​

Here's ASADA's Ben McDevitt listing evidence in the case:

• Essendon's sports scientist Stephen Dank was shown to have used Thymosin Beta-4 on other athletes prior to his arrival at Essendon
• There were over 100 text messages that unveiled a plan to source Thymosin Beta-4 for the purpose of doping the Essendon team
• The players signed consent forms agreeing to Thymosin injections and each received a number of injections
• Six players reported being told they were being injected with Thymosin
• Two players reported seeing vials marked with the word "Thymosin" in the sports scientist's fridge
• Two players sent text messages discussing their Thymosin injections with Stephen Dank
• Scientific analysis of a substance compounded by the pharmacist for Essendon showed that the substance was no other kind of Thymosin other than Thymosin Beta-4 with a 97-99 per cent accuracy

'They agreed to keep it a secret'



ASADA's Ben McDevitt:


"At the end of the day, 34 players signed on to receive four substances. Yes, they were told the injection program was WADA compliant but they adopted a head-in-the-sand approach in contravention of their anti-doping education.


"They agreed to keep it a secret.


"They failed to declare the injections to doping control officers, they accepted that they were walking close to the line and they deliberately kept it from the team doctor."

Essendon program designed to make players 'bigger, stronger, able to recover more quickly'




Ben McDevitt:


"To be blunt, the AFL tribunal simply got it wrong.


"Now that the CAS decision is final, I can share some facts of the case, some which have previously been confidential.


"Broadly, there was clear evidence that members of the club implemented a program designed to make Essendon players bigger and stronger and able to recover more quickly to gain an advantage over their opposition.


"In the words of Stephen Dank 'Thymosin was the vital cornerstone of that program'."

ASADA chief: 'They made conscious decisions, very conscious decisions'





Ben McDevitt:


"But they obviously never paid due regard to the enormous possible ramifications and consequences of those decisions that they made when they signed on to a program involving injections of those substances.


They never considered probably the impact it would have on their own playing futures, on their own personal reputations as players, on the reputation of the club that they played for, on the reputation of the code and, in particular, on the possible mental and physical implications and ramifications that this may have for them in the future.


"I also feel for their fans who must feel so badly let down."

 

[betcats]

The coaches and executives that had any part of that should get life bans.

 

[HayneKloppter]

athletes that sign on for something to give them a "competitive edge" and requires confidentiality and then claim team pressures as an excuse deserve to not be professional athletes

 

[Pete Cash]

I think the evidence is pretty clear. Circumstantial certainly but it seems pretty clear they broke asada code. I dont know on what grounds they were originally cleared ?

 

[Bronco18]

I think the evidence is pretty clear. Circumstantial certainly but it seems pretty clear they broke asada code. I dont know on what grounds they were originally cleared ?

Questions should be asked of the AFL Tribunal from here on in. Its not often that courts take such a dim view of a lower body's findings.

 

[madunit]

it's all the NRL's fault http://www.nospam47.com/league-news/4690911-revealed-rabbitohs-fan-nails-essendon-james-spigelman

to add to the conspiracy, Belgium, England and Australia all have International Rugby League sides as well.

 

[JamesRustle]

 

[some11]

AFL: where cheaters prosper.

They will do quite well out of this with all the salary cap bonuses.

 

[Perth Red]

Roosters come home to roost. Glad justice has been done and the cheats at player and club level found out. Disgusting behaviour for a club to do that to their players, hopefully Cronulla, Essendon and anyone else involved in such shenanigans gets a big wake up call.

 

[El Diablo]

if Labor wins the next election then government funding to AFL won't be cut if they abondon WADA http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-fault-says-bill-shorten-20160112-gm42j8.html

Labor tried to get them off in the first place and let Cronulla cop it all

AFL and Labor are as corrupt as each other

 

[betcats]

Sucked in to the AFL, you arrogant merkins.

 

[betcats]

Roy Masters on talkin sport right now

 

[maccattack]

I can't fathom how someone like Bill Shorten or anyone else for that matter can say the players are innocent victims in this.

 

[gUt]

I can't fathom how someone like Bill Shorten or anyone else for that matter can say the players are innocent victims in this.

Because they know it's what their intended audience wants to hear.

 

[Card Shark]

you gotta wonder if the AFL's moronic 3 strikes policy towards drug offenders was responsible for breeding a culture that thought this sort of activity would be acceptable.

And If so, the players would possibly be able to sue the AFL as well as Essendon.

That's what I thought too, Mad.

Like giving a kid a soft punishment, they'll keep doing something & stretching the boundaries.

If they got a good "whack on the arse", they would think twice.