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Kilkenny

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This trial is usually for the final touches to sides.

Sorensen for Eisenhuth was the only other option but with no trial for him then no way he plays

What injury is Sorenson carrying? It probably is irrelevant given I can’t see Ivan bringing him in anyway given no trial minutes.
 

betcats

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Comparing Edwards to guys like slater, tedesco and even rts is stupid. He won’t develop like they did no matter how hard he works he is nowhere near as talented, Let’s be serious here.
 

franklin2323

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Comparing Edwards to guys like slater, tedesco and even rts is stupid. He won’t develop like they did no matter how hard he works he is nowhere near as talented, Let’s be serious here.

And an SG Ball eligible FB isn't going to take his spot. Maybe he doesn't get resigned but is just crazy. Especially as Turuva is the exact style as is Staines.

The different style was Laurie and he was moved on. So this seems to be the style Ivan wants
 

betcats

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And an SG Ball eligible FB isn't going to take his spot

Dont be ridiculous i never said that.
. But he’s a potential option down the line if not for fullback then to replace critta or Staines if they go back.

Im sure blade said a while ago the coaching staff are very open to critta or Staines taking Edwards spot.

Comparing Edwards to west tigers tesdesco and expecting him to develop a passing game like billy slater is insane.
 

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Comparing Edwards to guys like slater, tedesco and even rts is stupid. He won’t develop like they did no matter how hard he works he is nowhere near as talented, Let’s be serious here.

Im not sure anyone suggests Dylan is in the elite fullback category, but he is still our best option at present. He dropped a bomb tonight which our opponents scored off, it happens, he was fine otherwise.
 

franklin2323

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Dont be ridiculous i never said that.
. But he’s a potential option down the line if not for fullback then to replace critta or Staines if they go back.

Im sure blade said a while ago the coaching staff are very open to critta or Staines taking Edwards spot.

Comparing Edwards to west tigers tesdesco and expecting him to develop a passing game like billy slater is insane.

I was just using them as examples. As reply to someone earlier who said if he hasn't got it now then he won't get it.. They did it.

Though they weren't halves in junior footy either though

Staines has more important things to worry about atm. Like getting through games.

Crichton too. Leaves a hole at centre

So we are a couple of years away from that
 

franklin2323

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Im not sure anyone suggests Dylan is in the elite fullback category, but he is still our best option at present. He dropped a bomb tonight which our opponents scored off, it happens, he was fine otherwise.

Even that was May got in the way whilist playing out of position.

Edwards was good last year lets see how he improves before thinking to the future
 

betcats

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Im not sure anyone suggests Dylan is in the elite fullback category, but he is still our best option at present. He dropped a bomb tonight which our opponents scored off, it happens, he was fine otherwise.

I’ve said myself tonight he’s best our option right now and also that one dropped bomb does not matter. I just think with the talent we have like critta and Staines wanting to play fullback one day and the fact that Dylan is off contract after 2022 makes it likely Dylan will get bigger offer elsewhere. I won’t be suprised if the next contract he signs will be at another club.
 

WestyLife

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Have you seen Turuva play? He plays the same style though.

I didn't mention Turuva though so I'm legitimately missing your point.

Crichton and Staines both have beautiful hands.... and can pass really well too.

Even then I don't think he loses it this year nor does he deserve to.

I was just using them as examples. As reply to someone earlier who said if he hasn't got it now then he won't get it.. They did it.

Though they weren't halves in junior footy either though

Staines has more important things to worry about atm. Like getting through games.

Crichton too. Leaves a hole at centre

So we are a couple of years away from that

I said that and I'll stand by it. He doesn't look the type to develop it. Slater and Teddy are so naturally gifted and both developed the skills under 2 of the best coaches in the history of the sport.

Edit: what @betcats just said but I didn't see with how the pages refresh is 100%.
 

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Even that was May got in the way whilist playing out of position.

Edwards was good last year lets see how he improves before thinking to the future

Im all for Dylan Edwards. I have no doubt he is our best fullback option.

There seems to be an obsession with the whole ball playing aspect which apparently Dylan Edwards lacks.

There are suggestions if Dylan doesn’t perform then we may have other options, which we probably do, but none of the three have ball playing skills.

I haven’t seen any evidence the alternatives to Dylan in Crichton, Staines or Turuva have ball playing skills.
 

betcats

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I was just using them as examples. As reply to someone earlier who said if he hasn't got it now then he won't get it.. They did it.

Though they weren't halves in junior footy either though

Staines has more important things to worry about atm. Like getting through games.

Crichton too. Leaves a hole at centre

So we are a couple of years away from that

We can fill a hole at centre easily right now if we had to with Naden or Burton or potentially salmon if we were desperate. In another year you’ll have Turuva and May looking for a spot in the backline, moving critta or Staines in 2022 or 2023 is not going to be a problem at all if one of them looks good enough to play fb.

To me it’s not just about Edwards playing ability, I think he’s a very good fullback though I do think that lack of a good passing game is an issue, it’s a combination that lack of passing and of his contract timing and our salary cap and the talent we have that will be looking to get in the side in 12 months as well as having two current outside backs who could be good fullbacks.
 

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I’ve said myself tonight he’s best our option right now and also that one dropped bomb does not matter. I just think with the talent we have like critta and Staines wanting to play fullback one day and the fact that Dylan is off contract after 2022 makes it likely Dylan will get bigger offer elsewhere. I won’t be suprised if the next contract he signs will be at another club.

Who knows what the future holds, contracts mean nothing, we may move him on at the end of this current season.

I just don’t think either a Crichton or Staines offer the ball playing skills that many seem to crave.

Given the cut throat nature of the salary cap I don’t think Dylan will see out his current contract, I think he will have to move in.
 

WestyLife

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Im all for Dylan Edwards. I have no doubt he is our best fullback option.

There seems to be an obsession with the whole ball playing aspect which apparently Dylan Edwards lacks.

There are suggestions if Dylan doesn’t perform then we may have other options, which we probably do, but none of the three have ball playing skills.

I haven’t seen any evidence the alternatives to Dylan in Crichton, Staines or Turuva have ball playing skills.

Staines 30m pass at speed in the Sharks game. Crichton set Mansour up with some soft hands a few times and the players all say he's a freak talent at training with slick skills.
 

panthersam

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Another thing I want to mention out of tonight’s game, Jarome Luai reminds me so much of Preston Campbell in terms of being that point of difference in attack for our side - the unpredictability that not many will be able to really coach against. So much of his game is based on eyes up footy and playing what he sees in front of him the same way Preston did for us (especially in 03). The double left foot step for his try tonight was so good to watch.
 

betcats

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Who knows what the future holds, contracts mean nothing, we may move him on at the end of this current season.

I just don’t think either a Crichton or Staines offer the ball playing skills that many seem to crave.

Given the cut throat nature of the salary cap I don’t think Dylan will see out his current contract, I think he will have to move in.

I don’t know if he will get moved on but the cut throat nature of the salary cap is definitely a big part of what I am getting at with Edwards. I think if one of our potential fullbacks shows they could do the job then the club might be a little reluctant to offer Edwards as much as other clubs might.

Im definitely not saying we need to replace him right now because of his passing.
 

panthersam

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I just don’t think either a Crichton or Staines offer the ball playing skills that many seem to crave.

I think most would desire the ball playing fullback because most premiership winning teams over the last 10 years or so have had a fullback with this ability.
 

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