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titoelcolombiano said:
The non-Sydney rivalries that I mentioned above get massive crowds and don't need the universe, weather, competitiveness etc to align to do so. Would you like to know why? Because they are the biggest and most well-attended rivalies in the game.
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Guarantee the weather is very important and also competitiveness. Those factors are particularly vital. Funnily it's the derbies in SYDNEY that sustain various clubs when having a bad run. But no matter what : the weather and time of play is crucial !
 
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Stallion said:
Guarantee the weather is very important and also competitiveness. Those factors are particularly vital. Funnily it's the derbies in SYDNEY that sustain various clubs when having a bad run. But no matter what : the weather and time of play is crucial !
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No - Broncos v Cowboys, Warriors v Storm, Broncos v Storm, Broncos v Warriors fixtures crush it no matter the weather. Because they are amongst the best supported clubs in the game and none of them are from Sydney.

How exactly do relatively lower attended derbies in Sydney sustain clubs?
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
No - Broncos v Cowboys, Warriors v Storm, Broncos v Storm, Broncos v Warriors fixtures crush it no matter the weather. Because they are amongst the best supported clubs in the game and none of them are from Sydney.

How exactly do relatively lower attended derbies in Sydney sustain clubs?
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Cultural rivalry that translates into superior tv ratings. And these Sydney rivalries are just as intriguing as the outside of Sydney games! The disrespect you are showing these Sydney clubs shows you either have an immaturity or lack of depth in understanding of these great clubs you choose to deride and discredit. Shame on you!
 
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Stallion said:
Cultural rivalry that translates into superior tv ratings. And these Sydney rivalries are just as intriguing as the outside of Sydney games! The disrespect you are showing these Sydney clubs shows you either have an immaturity or lack of depth in understanding of these great clubs you choose to deride and discredit. Shame on you!
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Come talk to me when Roosters vs Souffs draws a crowd bigger then 12,000
 
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Stallion said:
Cultural rivalry that translates into superior tv ratings. And these Sydney rivalries are just as intriguing as the outside of Sydney games! The disrespect you are showing these Sydney clubs shows you either have an immaturity or lack of depth in understanding of these great clubs you choose to deride and discredit. Shame on you!
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The thing with cultural rivalry is, it depends where you are from. And yes, the Broncos v Cowboys is a cultural rivalry that translates into superior TV ratings. The Broncos are the top rating side on TV.

The Storm are another example. In Melbourne, for most fans the Storm are RL, without them they lose interest. Did you know that the storm last season rated consistently higher on TV in Melbourne than any AFL team? Again, superior TV ratings.

Re: the Sydney rivalries being just as intriguing as the non-Sydney rivalries, we agree. I've never argued otherwise. All I said is that they don't attract as big a crowd. Your original point was that they are the be-all-and-end-all of the NRL. This is not true. In the current day the Broncos, Warriors and Storm are just as crucial to the league as the Eels, Dogs, Souths & Dragons.

Not all clubs are as crucial to the league as the ones listed above.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
The thing with cultural rivalry is, it depends where you are from. And yes, the Broncos v Cowboys is a cultural rivalry that translates into superior TV ratings. The Broncos are the top rating side on TV.

The Storm are another example. In Melbourne, for most fans the Storm are RL, without them they lose interest. Did you know that the storm last season rated consistently higher on TV in Melbourne than any AFL team? Again, superior TV ratings.

Re: the Sydney rivalries being just as intriguing as the non-Sydney rivalries, we agree. I've never argued otherwise. All I said is that they don't attract as big a crowd. Your original point was that they are the be-all-and-end-all of the NRL. This is not true. In the current day the Broncos, Warriors and Storm are just as crucial to the league as the Eels, Dogs, Souths & Dragons.

Not all clubs are as crucial to the league as the ones listed above.
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All clubs are crucial! In fact more clubs are required!
 
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Stallion said:
All clubs are crucial! In fact more clubs are required!
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The big clubs are crucial, the small clubs are preventing the big clubs from becoming the behemoths of Australian sport that they should be. Clubs like Parra, Souths, Dogs & Dragons should be rivaling the likes of Collingwood & Richmond for membership numbers, pulling 25k average attendances to games and be beating off large national / multi-national sponsors with a stick.
 
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Parramatta fans don’t turn up to support their team because they’re constantly on a never ending losing streak. Sad really considering their fan base is huge.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
The big clubs are crucial, the small clubs are preventing the big clubs from becoming the behemoths of Australian sport that they should be. Clubs like Parra, Souths, Dogs & Dragons should be rivaling the likes of Collingwood & Richmond for membership numbers, pulling 25k average attendances to games and be beating off large national / multi-national sponsors with a stick.
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Rubbish, those little clubs should be nurtured to grow into big clubs and the bigger clubs should become bigger clubs.

But it is difficult for RL as the market (the non rusted on fans) which the game once had an influence on during the Tina Turner years when the game was the biggest sport in Australia now has turned away after 20 years of bickering ie. the SL war, constant negativity from the media regarding player behaviour etc etc.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
The big clubs are crucial, the small clubs are preventing the big clubs from becoming the behemoths of Australian sport that they should be. Clubs like Parra, Souths, Dogs & Dragons should be rivaling the likes of Collingwood & Richmond for membership numbers, pulling 25k average attendances to games and be beating off large national / multi-national sponsors with a stick.
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That's odd logic!? The AFL clubs you have mentioned are in a city with less population and more top flight clubs!"My word the maths just isn't clicking is it! ?
 
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TheEroticGamer said:
Thanks Stallion for once again reiterating your point that the Bears shouldn't have been kicked out. We didn't understand it the first 12000 times you said it.
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Anytime and all the time. And glad you agree! However there is too much "common sense" and "strategic benefit" involved for this to happen.
 
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