These are the key points which are taken from the article the SMH published, which I posted the link to up thread (post - https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/peter-vlandys-new-nrl-arlc-chairman.477949/post-15476604) -
Should be a cap of $11mill. A significant upturn in funds for future player welfare managed by RLPA. Club grant of $14.5mill plus costs of running an NRLW team.
NRL paying players because they get a surplus is dead money out of the game and should be ringfenced for investment or cash asset build up for troubled times.
Oh and elevate grass roots funding from last years $63mill to over the $88mill it was before Vlandys/Covid slashed it.
Fair enough on points 1 and 4 but points 2 and 3 are ridiculous.
Hence why I said earlier about some of the player demands being ridiculous. They should be getting less if they are not willing to compromise on something like this absolute shambles of a player transfer system.
It’s not really indep anywayYeah goes against an independent comission
its not an independent commissionYeah goes against an independent comission
Yes you have been reasonable
Others though not so, In this case money isn't the issue although it does show why RL has had issues in the past moving the game forward
First, yes they are entitled to vote in their own interests. But their own interests go against the growth and overall benefit of the game. It’s a ball and chain around the code that was meant to be fixed in the early 90s (Bradley report) and again after 95 (Kerrigan report). It should have been fixed during the merger of ARL and SL.First of all, good on them.
Secondly, a large swathe of QLD Cup clubs are against it too because it will affect their competition a whole lot more.
Thirdly, why do you think a national reserve grade is a good idea anyway? Not many sports do it (European soccer) because it is not a particularly good idea. I know the fumblers don’t for example. It’s also an anti growth, anti expansion idea and will give even more power to clubs which is not what you or I want
Add the ~$7 mill from the new deal with Westpac for starters.Oh and elevate grass roots funding from last years $63mill to over the $88mill it was before Vlandys/Covid slashed it.
depends what the game would of got as it is,
Without knowing the deal - Hopefully we get that with this. Then we can get an idea where it stands in comparison to other NRL deals.
The ability to compare to AFL is years away but the game was able finally expand, Bye's are terrible so surely team 18 isn't far
Expanded NRLW with same pay for women as men in Origin.
Raise in club grants and cap.
Not sure that happens with no long term deal
I think V`landy`s vision is as obvious as dog`s balls. Gambling revenue and lot`s of it coming out of the U.S. but anywhere will do, ipso facto, enough money for all the projects and expansion teams in the world.Finally, my point goes back to PVL - what’s his vision for the game? I don’t see a long term vision
First, yes they are entitled to vote in their own interests. But their own interests go against the growth and overall benefit of the game. It’s a ball and chain around the code that was meant to be fixed in the early 90s (Bradley report) and again after 95 (Kerrigan report). It should have been fixed during the merger of ARL and SL.
If rugby league had a professional and modern governance framework, second tier clubs (be they from NSW or QLD) would never have any say in what NRL want to achieve. It completely undermines the growth of the game on all levels.
Secondly, see the above point. Same thing for QLD clubs.
Thirdly, I’m neither here nor there on a national reserve grade competition. There’s pros and cons to the proposal I imagine. Just as their are pros and cons (more cons though) to retaining the current QLD and NSW voting set up.
My point was aimed specifically at the governance framework of RL. I can’t even begin to fathom how NSWRL and QRL and clubs like Newtown have voting rights that undermine NRLs decision making ability.
AFL doesn’t allow any state based organisations or clubs voting rights. It’s the commission and the 18 clubs and that’s it. For very good reason.
Finally, my point goes back to PVL - what’s his vision for the game? I don’t see a long term vision. It’s all short term ideas and reactionary thinking.
Redcliffe was clearly the wrong spot to put brisbane 2. Broncos are already based in north at red hill. News Ltd don’t want a team south of the river so PVL agreed to Redcliffe. The club was set up in a hurry and without any concessions. Compared to how the Titans were set up, it’s a shambles. Very reminiscent of the 4 team expansion in 1995 with perth, Auckland, NQ and crushers. No actually fwd planning. Just decide on a whim to make it happen.
Now it’s all about establishing a presence in USA?? How about a presence in Adelaide and Perth first?
He’s not publicly addressed this ball and chain that is RL poor governance framework.
He clearly sees NSWRL as the pain in the ass that it is - hence why they tried to stack the board with his mates and went to court. Yet his Machiavellian efforts to undermine the current governance framework has backfired massively.
If he was gonna improve the governance and undermine NSWRL and QRL - the perfect time to rationalise the comp was during COVID when he could have used poor finances to pressure and leverage smartly for changes.
Now he’s hid the finances the clubs, the state leagues and players have all caught onto what he’s about. Yet again NRL misses its golden opportunity to reform and set themselves up to seriously take on AFL.
And yet despite an apparently poor tv deal the arlc has done the followingI don't think we should be comparing the NRL deal to the AFL. Instead the comparison should be between the 2018-2022 and 2023-2027 deals. Correct me if im wrong, but the 2018-2022 deal was $1.8 billion (before the Covid discounts) and the 2023-2027 is worth $2 billion or just over $2 billion.
So when you look at the last two deals, there's not much in it in terms of revenue growth, and that means not much growth in terms of salary cap or grant. Unless the NRL uses the revenue from GF hosting, magic round and end of year profits to go towards increasing the cap and grant. But you run the risk of not having any savings.
Hypothetically if the 2023-2027 deal was $2.5 billion, then chances are the CBA would've been sorted out by now.
I don't think we should be comparing the NRL deal to the AFL. Instead the comparison should be between the 2018-2022 and 2023-2027 deals. Correct me if im wrong, but the 2018-2022 deal was $1.8 billion (before the Covid discounts) and the 2023-2027 is worth $2 billion or just over $2 billion.
So when you look at the last two deals, there's not much in it in terms of revenue growth, and that means not much growth in terms of salary cap or grant. Unless the NRL uses the revenue from GF hosting, magic round and end of year profits to go towards increasing the cap and grant. But you run the risk of not having any savings.
Hypothetically if the 2023-2027 deal was $2.5 billion, then chances are the CBA would've been sorted out by now.
His vision is making rugby league the number one sport againI think V`landy`s vision is as obvious as dog`s balls. Gambling revenue and lot`s of it coming out of the U.S. but anywhere will do, ipso facto, enough money for all the projects and expansion teams in the world.