Race lines up NRL's quick men

[boxhead]

Racism has no place here.
I understand your argument (but I don't agree with it), but it would still be taken very offensively.

Your genetics doesn't mean someone is automatically the way you think they will be, that is called prejudice. Because I am part Mauritian, does that mean I am good at running? Because I am 'white', does that mean I am the way you say I am? A very bad argument to have on a forum about a multicultural game.

 

[Paullyboy]

Another person confirms to me that they don't read all of what I say and as such shouldn't have bothered.

I could not have been any clearer in saying that there are most certainly exceptions to every genetic rule. What I did say is there is a higher chance of certain races having certain traits genetically. That is a proven fact.

As for Macavity, I could give you stats about the Aboriginal population, but that is a completely different argument and clearly shows you can't grasp the concept I initially brought up.

 

[gUt]

Black, white, red... we can all agree that the Melbourne Storm star Greg Inglis underperformed in this one.

 

[Paullyboy]

Black, white, red... we can all agree that the Melbourne Storm star Greg Inglis underperformed in this one.

:lol::lol: well played, although I bet you half the forum here won't even be able to get that.

 

[typicalfan]

Does crime result from culture or genetic makeup?

History shows most things like this end up being a little from column A and a little from column B.

That doesn't excuse prejudice though, Usain Bolt has genetic advantages to make him run faster than say Shane Webcke or Carl Webb but it doesn't mean anything if he doesn't create a culture of training and hard work.

 

[typicalfan]

Black, white, red... we can all agree that the Melbourne Storm star Greg Inglis underperformed in this one.

Greg Inglis really didn't look fit at all for the run, I wonder how disciplined he is in his training v someone like Jarryd Hayne.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

This probably isn't the right forum for it, but I strongly disagree with you. It's a proven fact that certain races have different genetic advantages over others. People of African descent are much more likely to have more fast-twitch fibres and heavier bone mass which is great for running but not so good for swimming (for example). Rugby league alone has proven time and time again that some of the most athletic players are from islander backgrounds, however, how many of them play in the halves? There is a good reason for that as well.

My point about the lack of 'heart' has some merit if you do some research into it, although I do concede that there could be a fair debate about whether it's genetic or cultural.

Aboriginals aren't African.

To my knowledge there's little research on the athletic ability of Aborigines. Mostly quasi-intellectual hyperbole from Journalists.

There is no relation between melanin and athleticism.

 

[Godz Illa]

My point about the lack of 'heart' has some merit if you do some research into it

Show us the research. You're the one making the claims, so prove them.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

I love it how you're allowed to wank on about the natural athleticism of certain (non-white) races...but if you point out differences in IQ, aggression, propensity to crime etc then it is racist.

If races have differences in the body, then surely they must be able to in the mind as well?

Doesnt make sense.

Positive racism, negative racism. If you say Indians are good athletes that's racism, but more so its just false and stupid.

If you claim ethnicities have a propensity to crime, lmao, then not only are you wrong but you're a hate filled moron.

Of course you'll catch more flack for coming out with those sort of Hitler-esque claims. Because only a dickhead would make them.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Well, congratulations to Rugby Union.

Your only win in the code battle in Australia since 2003. Lap it up boys.

Maybe next time it should be held post-season so that the NRL's quickest players can participate.

This Lolly Turnbolt bloke looks quick, he would look great in a Wolves jersey.

If you wanted to be serious a 100 metre sprint is the one thing Union has League absolutely beaten in.

Rugby could pull sub 11 runners out of their arse. Infact, Australia doesn't even have any stand out speed stars in rugby. Compared to NZ, South Africa, England etc they're pretty slow

League players are without doubt the superior athletes, but for some reason there isn't many super speed men. Probably because of the playing numbers.

 

[Cletus]

If you wanted to be serious a 100 metre sprint is the one thing Union has League absolutely beaten in.

Rugby could pull sub 11 runners out of their arse. Infact, Australia doesn't even have any stand out speed stars in rugby. Compared to NZ, South Africa, England etc they're pretty slow

League players are without doubt the superior athletes, but for some reason there isn't many super speed men. Probably because of the playing numbers.

There have been a lot of speed players, but they tend to lose a bit of speed after they have a knee reconstruction or put on muscle mass as they get older.

 

[DR.ZOIDBERG]

Wish they held the race after GF so we could se M. Jennings & K. Gordon race. Still think Gordon would beat Hayne. Hayne is not the fastest in the NRL!!!

 

[Lego_Man]

Positive racism, negative racism. If you say Indians are good athletes that's racism, but more so its just false and stupid.

If you claim ethnicities have a propensity to crime, lmao, then not only are you wrong but you're a hate filled moron.

Of course you'll catch more flack for coming out with those sort of Hitler-esque claims. Because only a dickhead would make them.

Well either way that's a failure of logic then.

Like saying all breeds of dog have the same characteristics.

 

[Paullyboy]

Aboriginals aren't African.

To my knowledge there's little research on the athletic ability of Aborigines. Mostly quasi-intellectual hyperbole from Journalists.

There is no relation between melanin and athleticism.

I'm not aware of any research on that issue, and I'd suggest there probably isn't, based on the fact that they make up a very minimal percentage of the worlds population.

I never suggested the amount of melanin in one's skin has a link to anything athletic, what I did point out (mainly to the politically correct clowns who honestly believe everyone is exactly equal) is that there are proven genetic differences between different races and it's very reasonable to expect there are some differences between aboriginal Australians, polynesians, african americans, europeans and asians.

Show us the research. You're the one making the claims, so prove them.

See above. I don't care enough about your approval to go and track down all the research that has been done on genetics. If you are truely interested can I suggest you pop into your local university library as there is a lot of fascinating things to read. You may even learn the earth isn't flat.

 

[SDM]

Wish they held the race after GF so we could se M. Jennings & K. Gordon race. Still think Gordon would beat Hayne. Hayne is not the fastest in the NRL!!!

Mitch Brown ran down gordon like he was standing still the other week, then he got bundled into touch by Maloney. He would have finished next to Inglis.

 

[m0nty]

This probably isn't the right forum for it, but I strongly disagree with you. It's a proven fact that certain races have different genetic advantages over others. People of African descent are much more likely to have more fast-twitch fibres and heavier bone mass which is great for running but not so good for swimming (for example). Rugby league alone has proven time and time again that some of the most athletic players are from islander backgrounds, however, how many of them play in the halves? There is a good reason for that as well.

My point about the lack of 'heart' has some merit if you do some research into it, although I do concede that there could be a fair debate about whether it's genetic or cultural.

The preponderance of white halves is nothing to do with genetic inability of non-whites to be intelligent enough to play the position, as you imply. White kids are usually smaller and gravitate towards the halves because they can't do the physical tackling and hit-up workload of islander kids in the juniors.

It's like how in the NFL once upon a time, it was thought that black players could never be quarterbacks or head coaches. Over time, this racist attitude was broken down by enlightened officials. Now it's non-controversial for an NFL team to have a black QB, and the Super Bowl has been won by a black starting QB and a black head coach.

As for this "research" into lack of heart, there is no question that now you're being flat out racist and/or ignorant. Put up or shut up. You really are a classic redneck if you try to defend that position.

You're right, this isn't the correct forum for this discussion. You'd have better luck at Stormfront.

 

[C1WGA]

If you wanted to be serious a 100 metre sprint is the one thing Union has League absolutely beaten in.

Rugby could pull sub 11 runners out of their arse. Infact, Australia doesn't even have any stand out speed stars in rugby. Compared to NZ, South Africa, England etc they're pretty slow

League players are without doubt the superior athletes, but for some reason there isn't many super speed men. Probably because of the playing numbers.

I agree with you that Union has it over league in the speed department (even though I'm a league man).

I have no doubt I.Gordon, K.Gordon, Mead, Uate from league would have made a race of it though.

As you say Turner's 11.1 sec is hardly flying...

Rugby Union have some real speedsters ie: Chavanga, Habana spring to mind..they would beat that field by 5 metres..


Rugby League have had some speedsters over the different era's ..

ie: Shane Whereat 10.5 sec , Larry Corowa 10.6 sec from 70's

Ken Irvine, Michael Cleary & Ian Moir from the 60's were all genuine flyers.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

I'm not aware of any research on that issue, and I'd suggest there probably isn't, based on the fact that they make up a very minimal percentage of the worlds population.

I never suggested the amount of melanin in one's skin has a link to anything athletic, what I did point out (mainly to the politically correct clowns who honestly believe everyone is exactly equal) is that there are proven genetic differences between different races and it's very reasonable to expect there are some differences between aboriginal Australians, polynesians, african americans, europeans and asians.



See above. I don't care enough about your approval to go and track down all the research that has been done on genetics. If you are truely interested can I suggest you pop into your local university library as there is a lot of fascinating things to read. You may even learn the earth isn't flat.

Definately, I'm just questioning your original point about Aboriginal athletes. There's really nothing to suggest they're superior to anyone in anyway.

Even with the science to the side, they're hardly dominating in any real sports.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

I agree with you that Union has it over league in the speed department (even though I'm a league man).

I have no doubt I.Gordon, K.Gordon, Mead, Uate from league would have made a race of it though.

As you say Turner's 11.1 sec is hardly flying...

Rugby Union have some real speedsters ie: Chavanga, Habana spring to mind..they would beat that field by 5 metres..


Rugby League have had some speedsters over the different era's ..

ie: Shane Whereat 10.5 sec , Larry Corowa 10.6 sec from 70's

Ken Irvine, Michael Cleary & Ian Moir from the 60's were all genuine flyers.

Yep. I don't know why it is. Maybe just luck? I mean if you look at a Union team and a League team its clear League has it over them athletically. But their wingers and fullbacks have got some toe.

Aswell as Chavanga and Habana for SA, in England we've got Monye, Sacky, Topsy Ojo and Varndell. Both clocked sub 11s.

America has actually got some f**king flyers. Ngwenya is sub 11. Then they've got Bennie Brazell, ex NFL player, used to be a track star.

Infact it's interesting that the topic turned to the race element of athletics, as it's pretty prevelant in Union these days; All the exceptional speed merchants are African descent

 

[Perth Tiger]

I never suggested the amount of melanin in one's skin has a link to anything athletic, what I did point out (mainly to the politically correct clowns who honestly believe everyone is exactly equal) is that there are proven genetic differences between different races and it's very reasonable to expect there are some differences between aboriginal Australians, polynesians, african americans, europeans and asians.

No one is having a go at you for saying there a physical differences between races because there are. People are questioning your down right stupid point that Aboriginal people don't have any heart because they are Aboriginal. That is a racial sterotype that is complete bullsh*t.

It is the same as saying Australia is a completly unsafe place to travel for backpackers because we have a few backpack killers.