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Raiders stand down Goodwin and Carney over club claims

tiger_nick

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guys were forgetting this is the club that punted steve irwin for letting carney drive his car when he was pissed.

i expect them the sack trevor thurling for not being there to make sure carney kept little toddy in his pants.
 

innsaneink

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After sitting back and reading the news reports again, how exactly is this going to be anymore than a case of word against word, that is of course if there is any truth to the report of it happening in a mens room.....
So you think he will possibly lie?

Yeh...most think like that of him...
 

Sleep

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Sounds more and more like there might not be any or little truth to this story the more information comes out.

If it turns out to be false will Carney get a full apology I wonder? The Raiders might be punished for some douche he had something against him and miss out on him playing this weekend.

I thought he had turned the corner myself and was hoping all this crap was in the past with him.
 

bartman

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Its pretty obvious that urinating on a woman would automatically constitute a sexual assult charge.

And yes pissing on an unconsenting woman is worse than pissing on a man because the pandora's box of legal recourse open to a woman. That is unless ofcourse the man is gay - then its a hate crime.

Ah, so you're not serious. You just have multiple chips on your shoulder... ok then ;-)
 

Digeze

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So if this is all cleared up by tomorrow and it is revealed that Carney didn't commit the deed, will the Raiders throw him back into the squad for the Titans game this weekend or will he miss it regardless of the findings?
 

Kiki

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um...donkeyrope that is hands down THE most offensive thing ive seen on this forum.

what did women and gay guys ever do to you??
 

sass

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Its pretty obvious that urinating on a woman would automatically constitute a sexual assult charge.

And yes pissing on an unconsenting woman is worse than pissing on a man because the pandora's box of legal recourse open to a woman. That is unless of course the man is gay - then its a hate crime.

that's meant to be funny right?

it's awful.
 

bartman

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So if this is all cleared up by tomorrow and it is revealed that Carney didn't commit the deed, will the Raiders throw him back into the squad for the Titans game this weekend or will he miss it regardless of the findings?
If the investigation is complete, the police give a no case to answer verdict and the club are satisfied that Carney's state of public drunkenness didn't breach any internal behavioural employment contract, then they could throw him back into the game on the weekend.

I still think he's a dribbler for... dribbling over someone else, even if it was in the toilets. Just goes to show when you're on the big bickies from your club, you have to be a bit more aware than the rest of us that you don't do anything that might backfire on you, and cost you those big bickies?

Personally, I always choose to pee in a cubicle... no dramas that way, even if you miss ;-)
 

Pumba

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Carney facing deregistration

Troubled Canberra star Todd Carney faces the sack and de-registration by the NRL with police investigating allegations he urinated on a member of the public.

Carney and teammate Bronx Goodwin were today stood down by the Raiders indefinitely as police investigate three allegations of assault against the two young stars.

Carney is alleged to have urinated on a patron at the All Bar Nun establishment late on Sunday evening while Goodwin is alleged to have assaulted two men outside the club at 11.40pm.

For serial offender Carney it is likely to end his promising rugby league career in Australia as he was already on his last chance with Canberra following two serious driving offences.

He lost his driver's licence for five years in February 2007 and in June last year was handed 200 hours of community service and narrowly avoided jail time for another incident.

Already on his last chance with the club, Carney faces not only the sack but NRL de-registration if the allegations lead to charges.

The 22-year-old star, touted as a future NSW halfback, could become the fifth player de-registered by the NRL, and the fourth in three years, for serious off-field misconduct.

Julian O'Neill was the first player banished by rugby league for urinating on a croupier at a casino in 1995.

Newcastle prop Dane Tilse, now playing for the Raiders, was banned for one year in 2005 for a drunken episode in Bathurst when he forced his way into a female's dorm room.

Cronulla's Tevita Latu was ousted for punching a woman in 2006 while Newcastle's Terence Seu Seu, now at the Sharks, was briefly de-registered earlier this year for a string of alcohol related indiscretions.

NRL chief executive David Gallop said the league was comfortable with the action taken by the Raiders already but expects serious ramifications if the allegations are proven.

“Clearly when players have been involved in previous incidents there will be different consequences,” said Gallop. Carney's actions have long concerned Canberra officials but his talent and star of the future status meant he tended to be treated more leniently.

A gifted footballer and a genuine person off the field, it is common knowledge his behaviour becomes a major problem when he starts drinking alcohol.

Despite his issues the Raiders have continued investing time and money into the young star and extended his deal a further four years earlier this season.

Canberra chief executive Don Furner would not comment on any possible terms in either player's deals that would see them face further disciplinary action if any misbehaviour was proved, but insisted they wouldn't prematurely react to the allegations.

“Some incidents have been looked at by the police and we will wait to see what the outcome is before we doing anything,” said Furner.

“We can't say too much until we work out whether they are allegations or whether there's much to them.

“We're not going to hang anyone out to dry until that happens.”

The incident could not come at a worse time for the Raiders as they have won successive games and sit just one point outside the top eight with a favourable run to the finals.

Raiders coach Neil Henry said the playing group will move on without Carney, with Marc Herbert called in to halfback for Saturday's home clash with Gold Coast.

“We'll move on, we'll get over it,” said Henry.

“Of course it's a distraction but how resilient we are and how we bounce back are important.”

Neither player was available for comment today.

Meanwhile Bulldogs players Lee Te Maari and Ben Roberts could also face serious consequences from their club with investigations ongoing into claims of a fight in Cronulla on Sunday evening involving an off-duty police officer.

Police are not involved in the investigations but Bulldogs chief executive Todd Greenberg is expected to come down hard on the serial offenders if it is found they've behaved inappropriately.

“We have received preliminary reports and the investigation is ongoing,” said Greenberg.

“We need to ensure the process is completed properly. We expect to have it resolved before the weekend.”

Roberts and Te Maari were both named in the Bulldogs side today to play St George Illawarra on Monday.

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mave

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IF Carney has f*cked up and gets deregistered, it will be the biggest waste of talent ever. The bloke will play for NSW for sure and certain. I sincerely hope that he hasn't thrown it all away with (now numerous) indescretions.

Real bad for the Raiders too. That light just got a little dimmer.
 

bartman

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:lol: Kiki, stop it! Be-have...

The 22-year-old star, touted as a future NSW halfback, could become the fifth player de-registered by the NRL, and the fourth in three years, for serious off-field misconduct.
Gee, Carney's only 22... maybe he needs a short stint out of league and in the army or something, so he can find himself and come back and reach his footballing potential?
 

Kiki

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he should come stay with Aunty Kiki. ill sort the little turd out quick smart.

i dont think he should be deregistered thats a bit harsh. a decent stint on the sidelines should do the trick.
 

sydraider

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he should come stay with Aunty Kiki. ill sort the little turd out quick smart.

i dont think he should be deregistered thats a bit harsh. a decent stint on the sidelines should do the trick.

So a few weeks suspension will suffice?

I agree.
 
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