Raiders stand down Goodwin and Carney over club claims

[Walt Flanigan]

Regardless of the outcome this will blow over in a couple of weeks like these alleged incidents always do.

I don't condone it but it always happens.

 

[donkey|rope]

Jeez, there are sure to be a stack of strong witnesses to be found in a nightclub bathroom at 3 am in the morning. I am sure the cops will be vigorously pursuing this one :sarcasm:

to be fair, all bar nun isn't a nightclub. its a suburban pub. And while it does degenerate into a bit of a sleaze-fest on friday and saturday night but its very tame compared to other pubs and clubs in canberra.

 

[eastsrule]

Calling a woman (who obviously gave him her number) when he was drunk is a tad different to pissing on another person. Keep trying.

He called one of Minichello's friend's off Mini's phone.

I don't think they had actually met if I recall correctly.

 

[Gidley Up]

Sacked for what? Nothings been proven at all....idiot.

Yeah, apparently the bloke was just taking the piss.

 

[Mr Saab]

He called one of Minichello's friend's off Mini's phone.

I don't think they had actually met if I recall correctly.

That is correct. Mini met her at some BBQ a few days before the FIRE UP.
Spaz did not meet her.

 

[bartman]

as silly as this sentence sounds - no way in hell should be sack carney for urinating on a member of the public. if we were going to do it, we should have done last year. is this behaviour weird and stupid - yes - but its not an act of physical violence. the only way this would be a sack-able offence if he did it to a woman.

How does it make a difference if the person who he's allegedy urinated on is a woman or a man? :?

Is pissing on a woman worse than pissing on a man? Isn't it the act of pissing on a person (drunkenly, recklessly, bringing the club into disrepute and more than likely breaching a behavioural contract) here that matters?

 

[m0j0]

the only way this would be a sack-able offence if he did it to a woman.

Unless, of course, it was purely an act of sexual gratification between two consenting adults. Perhaps he was just warming up for act "number 2" when he was rudely interupted by the complaining third party...

 

[MSIH]

How does it make a difference if the person who he's allegedy urinated on is a woman or a man? :?

Is pissing on a woman worse than pissing on a man? Isn't it the act of pissing on a person (drunkenly, recklessly, bringing the club into disrepute and more than likely breaching a behavioural contract) here that matters?

No. There are categories that result in differing punishments depending on the type of person "urinated on".

Man > Female > Child > Handicapped people > Sharks fans

 

[m0j0]

No. There are categories that result in differing punishments depending on the type of person "urinated on".

Man > Female > Child > Handicapped people > Sharks fans

Doesn't it go:

Man > Female > Child > Handcapped people > Animals > Handicapped Animals > Public Urinals > Sharks Fans?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[donkey|rope]

How does it make a difference if the person who he's allegedy urinated on is a woman or a man? :?

Is pissing on a woman worse than pissing on a man? Isn't it the act of pissing on a person (drunkenly, recklessly, bringing the club into disrepute and more than likely breaching a behavioural contract) here that matters?

Its pretty obvious that urinating on a woman would automatically constitute a sexual assult charge.

And yes pissing on an unconsenting woman is worse than pissing on a man because the pandora's box of legal recourse open to a woman. That is unless ofcourse the man is gay - then its a hate crime.

 

[Rexxy]

little bit of urine never hurt anyone.

dead straight. And a great way to fire up a dinner party.

That and fondue.

 

[Tokyo_Raider]

Its pretty obvious that urinating on a woman would automatically constitute a sexual assult charge.

And yes pissing on an unconsenting woman is worse than pissing on a man because the pandora's box of legal recourse open to a woman. That is unless ofcourse the man is gay - then its a hate crime.

Huh?

We have a winner for the ill informed psuedo law.

Anyway, I suspect that Carney will get away with this. As has been said, there are not many credible witnesses in a mens room in the early hours of the morning.

But it's not the point, is it. The guy clearly can't hold his drink. He's clearly out of control.

And once again, he's just going to get slapped on the wrist. As a Canberra fan, I love what he does on the field, but he disgusts me off it.

 

[Smartman]

Whos the other player that got sacked when Carney was given another chance.

Raiders did say he's on his last chance.

If allegations are true, then he should be sacked. Otherwise they're soft c**ks.

 

[Cletus]

Steve Irwin.

 

[OVP]

dead straight. And a great way to fire up a dinner party.

That and fondue.

:lol:

Carney wont be sacked.

 

[badav]

Whos the other player that got sacked when Carney was given another chance.

Raiders did say he's on his last chance.

If allegations are true, then he should be sacked. Otherwise they're soft c**ks.

Raiders said he was on his last chance after he got caught doing burnouts while drunk in Goulburn (which was a while before the time he got into a cop chase and bailed)

 

[sass]

I'm still confused.


You're being too too metaphorical. If you can explain statements I've made in regards to the comments you've made, and do so in quotes i've made, then i'll happily respond.

I'm still not sure what you're trying to say.. I dont mean to be offensive but you're writing posts like you're writing a university essay without explaining your point. Are you actually trying to prove a point or just sound smart for the sake of it?

I don't really know how to make that clearer to be honest. I'm definitely not trying to talk down to you ... but you raised the question of 'innocent until proven guilty' and the legal system so I answered it.

why don't we just leave it as I think this is totally reasonable behaviour from the club? it's the same thing they would do in almost all other professions, so I say go for it canberra.

 

[VictorTheViking]

After sitting back and reading the news reports again, how exactly is this going to be anymore than a case of word against word, that is of course if there is any truth to the report of it happening in a mens room.....

 

[Pete Cash]

If Carney isn't charged or convicted the Raiders are under no obligation to do anything more than they have. I mean should players be sacked over allegations???

If he is charged and convicted then I would suggest they offer him to an ESL club or something.

 

[Smartman]

Raiders said he was on his last chance after he got caught doing burnouts while drunk in Goulburn (which was a while before the time he got into a cop chase and bailed)

This time they will say last chance for sure with a 3 year warranty.