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wittyfan

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Mitchell Moses - The Sexiest Man in the NRL?????
That must be when he doesnt have his pimples happening..And that poor attempt at a beard?

Moses, Brooks, Tedesco - Origin 2017
1 out of three is not too bad....And his name starts with a "T" Wittman.

We shall see. Still a while until Origin gets picked.

And what beard???

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Ron's_Mate

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Ivan Cleary's message to Wests Tigers stars: We want them here but they aren't indispensable
Michael Chammas
Published: April 7, 2017 - 8:34PM

"The star of the team is the team." That has long been Ivan Cleary's coaching philosophy.

And he won't shy away from it as he approaches delicate discussions surrounding the future of Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.

"I would love Woodsy and Teddy to stay," Cleary told Fairfax Media at the team hotel in Townsville on the eve of his first match in charge of the Wests Tigers.

"They can be extremely influential in making this club the success it should be. But at the end of the day this will be their decision. What I have learned over the years is that players aren't indispensable, but I sincerely hope they stay.

"The players we are talking about, there is a fair bit of money there too. If these boys – and I want them to stay, don't get me wrong – but if they decide they don't want to be here, we'll forge ahead. The star of the team is the team. That's what I believe in."

And so begins the most pivotal period in the club's history since the joint venture's inception at the turn of the millennium.

"There's a lot of work to do. I know it's a big job, but I'm comfortable with that," Cleary said.

Just who else is comfortable with the magnitude of the task at hand is still to be determined. Cleary is a coach who won't lose sight through the dark. It's why he was appointed. He's also a realist.

"Change is not necessarily comfortable," he said.

"I would love all these players to stay – they have given good service to the club, played all their first-grade football here. But this place is not going to be the same as they knew it. Not everyone is into that.

"There are some decisions to make and I know there's been some confusion in the past. They've been quite open about that. I'm not going to hide that. But now there's some certainty with a new head coach coming in. Ultimately they'll make the decision if they want to be here or not.

"They have invested a lot of time into this club and the club has invested a lot of time into them as well. That shouldn't be forgotten, but it's a professional game and they have to make a decision on what suits them. We'll move forward whatever happens."

At a meeting with club powerbrokers at Wests Ashfield Leagues Club a fortnight ago that saw his appointment rubber stamped, Cleary walked in with a perception of what the club was like.

"The commentary wasn't exactly glowing was it?" he said.

He wanted to know if the club, which had been depicted as a rabble, would provide him with the support and autonomy to carry out the monumental task of transforming the perennial underachievers into a respected and hard-nosed football team.

"He had read an article that suggested we were a basket case with a dysfunctional board that didn't know what we were doing," chairman Marina Go said.

"I'm sure he wanted to meet with me to make sure I wasn't a moron. He must have thought I was after everything that had been written. We allayed those concerns because he decided to sign. I remember Ivan asked us what success looks like. We said to him, 'finals football is what success looks like'.

"Because even though we're increasingly successful off field, which we're proud about, it's almost meaningless if you don't win games of football. He was left under no illusion that we need to get back into the finals football arena sooner rather than later."

The process of appointing Jason Taylor's successor was a three-man race, but the only way Cleary wasn't going to win was if he gave up.

It became a head-hunting exercise trying to nail down the former Warriors and Panthers coach.

"Anyone who knows Ivan Cleary knows that he's really strongly based around values," football manager Kelly Egan said.

"He's got a great perception of leadership and culture and a mentality of evolving the team first. That's what we needed. Most people in the game would agree that he probably should never have been out of a job."

Taylor was given a three-year deal at a time when the club was under all sorts of salary cap pressure with a roster that didn't resemble anything close to a semi-final team.

But he was under no illusion as to how long he had to end the club's finals drought.

"When he joined we were very clear that we were on this three-year journey with him," Go said.

"But in that third year, we wanted to be playing finals."

Three rounds into his third season at the helm, it became clear to the club that vision wasn't going to become a reality.

"We didn't make a mistake appointing JT," Go said. "You take on the right people for the right time. And I still think Jason was the right coach for that time. He wasn't afraid to make difficult decisions that needed to be made. Ivan is now the right coach for a new time."

You can't talk about the demise of Taylor without reflecting on the decision that ultimately cost him his job.

Taylor's legacy at the joint venture will be as the man who ousted club legend Robbie Farah. While he had the backing of the club to send the NSW hooker packing, the way he handled the situation would eventually see the rest of the playing group turn on him.

It wasn't the fact that Farah was gone. Some wanted him to stay. Others were happy to see the back of him.

But the more Taylor dug his heels in and continued his personal vendetta against Farah, the further he dropped in the estimation of the players that mattered.

Those inside the walls at the club's Concord headquarters carried the belief that Taylor's shortcoming was a lack of skills to communicate to the rest of the team. So everything they read, they believed.

It was never handled properly. The club knows that. The now infamous press conference when Taylor declared his intention to drop Farah to NSW Cup if he didn't leave would prove to be the most costly words of his coaching career.

"The worst thing we did as a club was leave him there exposed," Go said of Taylor. "We handled that very poorly. As a club, we had to grow up that day."

While there's an admission of wrongdoing, there's also a very strong belief inside the club that it was in a no-win situation when it came to Farah.

"We had somebody deliberately throwing missiles into the camp," Go said.

"You also have a situation where someone is throwing a bomb, and you can't throw a bomb back because there is no way we would have ever said anything negative about him. Ever. I did an interview saying we will never disrespect him. I know people think we did, but we really didn't.

"Everything we did behind the scenes was to try and make sure he was respected. It became personal. It should never have become personal – because it wasn't personal. Not from our point of view. However, the fact of the matter was we still did need him to leave for a whole bunch of reasons. JT's perception was that he could get more out of the team without him.

"That's not a personal attack on Robbie Farah, that was the coach's view on his ability to coach the team. There's more than just talent and ability – there's a desire to want to do what your coach says."

Chief executive Justin Pascoe walked straight into the eye of the storm when he started at the club 18 months ago, just a few weeks after the Taylor-Farah feud erupted.

Regardless of his own opinions on whether Farah should stay or go, he couldn't begin his tenure by going against the recommendation of the board that had just appointed him.

Much of what he has had to do has been about mending the wrongs of the past, and apart from a $57 million submission for a new centre of excellence, he hasn't been able to leave his imprint on the football department. Until now.

It's all well and good that sponsorship revenue is up a million dollars, membership levels have increased by 66 per cent from last year and the Tigers had the fourth-largest home crowd average.

Ultimately, Pascoe's time as Tigers boss will be deemed a success or failure depending on what happens on the football field under Cleary's watch.

"We will no longer accept mediocrity as the benchmark at this club," Pascoe said.

"We have finally put ourselves in a strong position with an ability to recruit with a freed-up compliant [salary] cap. We'll be able to go out there and add some real value to this roster without previous contractual obligations interfering with that. This change demands resilience and it demands an organisation that is comfortable about being uncomfortable."

That is why Todd Payten was never considered as an option to coach the Wests Tigers. It's why the players were never consulted.

"We didn't want to have a mate as their coach," Go said. "Those young men need a leader. They need discipline."

The Tigers believe they have got what they need in Cleary. But what the players need and want are two different things – evident in the mass turnover in players during Cleary's reign rebuilding the Panthers.

"I'm proud of what I did there," Cleary said.

"I look at that side and look and be proud of the contribution that I made there. That gives me confidence coming to a club like this that I can take them in the right direction. That I can help this club realise its potential."

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...they-arent-indispensable-20170407-gvfx7s.html
 

Ron's_Mate

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Wests Tigers want Shaun Johnson or Gareth Widdop as Mitchell Moses replacement
Michael Chammas
Published: April 7, 2017 - 10:00PM

The Wests Tigers will approach Shaun Johnson and Gareth Widdop in the coming days after identifying the two international playmakers as their priority targets to replace the Parramatta-bound Mitchell Moses.

It comes as coach Ivan Cleary has vowed to revisit Moses' request for a release to join the Eels this season, admitting the five-eighth's short-term future at the club would depend on the way he conducted himself.

The Tigers will wait until after this weekend's round of football to begin their pursuit of Moses' replacement, but have already held discussions around who they will reach out to next week.

As reported by Fairfax Media on Wednesday, Luke Brooks has signed a two-year $1.1 million deal, and as of late Friday afternoon, the Tigers were in discussions with Moses' manager in Townsville about a release to join the Eels this season.

Isaac Moses (Mitchell's manager and relative) met with Cleary and football manager Kelly Egan after the team's captain's run in Townsville, however it is understood no agreement has been reached.

There appeared to be no tension between the coach and five-eighth during the session, but Cleary has previously stated he didn't want a player that had no desire to be "on the bus".

"If he doesn't want to be here now, then we'll have to revisit it," Cleary told Fairfax Media.

"But I certainly haven't seen that in his attitude the last couple of days. I think most players would want to play well for their current team. He's got a contract here. At the end of the day Mitchell will decide through his actions where that goes. Straight up, I was just shocked that a release was even suggested. The offer was withdrawn from Mitchell purely for monetary reasons and trying to get three of them at once. You can imagine that's hard to deal with.

"It wasn't working so at some point we had to decide that: a) if we make some priorities we can try and get the ball rolling. And b), the cap forecast had changed in terms of managing risks for the club. We certainly hadn't closed the door on Mitchell Moses. So to have a release request an hour later, I wasn't really ready for that. We wanted to revisit it. Those offers had been on the table for some time then all of a sudden the cap moves. If they got accepted, we would have been scrambling. Most clubs don't have the amount of money we do sitting in limbo."

Moses is unlikely to be released to play for Parramatta against the Tigers next week, however there's a possibility he could be in the blue and gold the following week when Brooks is hopeful of returning from a hamstring injury.

The Tigers aren't hiding their desire to be active in the player market after Moses decided to sign with Parramatta next season.

Widdop, who is off contract at the end of this year at the Dragons, is believed to be their No.1 target, with Johnson a close second.

It's likely Johnson will demand close to a million dollars a season, therefore any contract offer will depend on the future of James Tedesco and Aaron Woods.

However Johnson does have a strong relationship with Cleary, who handed the lively playmaker his debut back at the Warriors in 2011.

"We're in a situation where we aren't waiting," Egan said.

"We have to get out and discuss options and make sure we're planning for contingencies. Every club is doing the same thing, despite what they might or may not say. We plan to be successful at this club, and that means having conversations with players across the park. We've started that already but we're going to be a lot more aggressive with it now. Respectfully to Teddy and Woodsy, they've always been a priority for us. The offers are there and we're very positive about how those offers look and what they reflect. But we've got to keep moving as a club too.

"They are proud blokes, they are good blokes. They are local juniors and people that represent some good traits. It would be unreal if they said they want to stay. We'd love that to happen. I feel very confident there's a really stable coaching group and football group around them. I hope they see that as really good evidence. And a couple of wins can change things too. Wins can mask a lot of things but they can also assist a lot of things. We just need to try and make that happen."

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...tchell-moses-replacement-20170407-gvfx2k.html
 

philgood

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Loving Ivan already. No bullshit with thus guy


RIL 7 2017 - 8:35PM

Ivan Cleary's message to Wests Tigers stars: We want them here but they aren't indispensable

Michael Chammas
Michael Chammas

"The star of the team is the team." That has long been Ivan Cleary's coaching philosophy.

And he won't shy away from it as he approaches delicate discussions surrounding the future of Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.

"I would love Woodsy and Teddy to stay," Cleary told Fairfax Media at the team hotel in Townsville on the eve of his first match in charge of the Wests Tigers.

"They can be extremely influential in making this club the success it should be. But at the end of the day this will be their decision. What I have learned over the years is that players aren't indispensable, but I sincerely hope they stay.

"The players we are talking about, there is a fair bit of money there too. If these boys – and I want them to stay, don't get me wrong – but if they decide they don't want to be here, we'll forge ahead. The star of the team is the team. That's what I believe in."

And so begins the most pivotal period in the club's history since the joint venture's inception at the turn of the millennium.

"There's a lot of work to do. I know it's a big job, but I'm comfortable with that," Cleary said.

Just who else is comfortable with the magnitude of the task at hand is still to be determined. Cleary is a coach who won't lose sight through the dark. It's why he was appointed. He's also a realist.

"Change is not necessarily comfortable," he said.

"I would love all these players to stay – they have given good service to the club, played all their first-grade football here. But this place is not going to be the same as they knew it. Not everyone is into that.

"There are some decisions to make and I know there's been some confusion in the past. They've been quite open about that. I'm not going to hide that. But now there's some certainty with a new head coach coming in. Ultimately they'll make the decision if they want to be here or not.

"They have invested a lot of time into this club and the club has invested a lot of time into them as well. That shouldn't be forgotten, but it's a professional game and they have to make a decision on what suits them. We'll move forward whatever happens."

At a meeting with club powerbrokers at Wests Ashfield Leagues Club a fortnight ago that saw his appointment rubber stamped, Cleary walked in with a perception of what the club was like.

"The commentary wasn't exactly glowing was it?" he said.

He wanted to know if the club, which had been depicted as a rabble, would provide him with the support and autonomy to carry out the monumental task of transforming the perennial underachievers into a respected and hard-nosed football team.

"He had read an article that suggested we were a basket case with a dysfunctional board that didn't know what we were doing," chairman Marina Go said.

"I'm sure he wanted to meet with me to make sure I wasn't a moron. He must have thought I was after everything that had been written. We allayed those concerns because he decided to sign. I remember Ivan asked us what success looks like. We said to him, 'finals football is what success looks like'.

"Because even though we're increasingly successful off field, which we're proud about, it's almost meaningless if you don't win games of football. He was left under no illusion that we need to get back into the finals football arena sooner rather than later."

The process of appointing Jason Taylor's successor was a three-man race, but the only way Cleary wasn't going to win was if he gave up.

It became a head-hunting exercise trying to nail down the former Warriors and Panthers coach.

"Anyone who knows Ivan Cleary knows that he's really strongly based around values," football manager Kelly Egan said.

"He's got a great perception of leadership and culture and a mentality of evolving the team first. That's what we needed. Most people in the game would agree that he probably should never have been out of a job."

Taylor was given a three-year deal at a time when the club was under all sorts of salary cap pressure with a roster that didn't resemble anything close to a semi-final team.

But he was under no illusion as to how long he had to end the club's finals drought.

"When he joined we were very clear that we were on this three-year journey with him," Go said.

"But in that third year, we wanted to be playing finals."

Three rounds into his third season at the helm, it became clear to the club that vision wasn't going to become a reality.

"We didn't make a mistake appointing JT," Go said. "You take on the right people for the right time. And I still think Jason was the right coach for that time. He wasn't afraid to make difficult decisions that needed to be made. Ivan is now the right coach for a new time."

You can't talk about the demise of Taylor without reflecting on the decision that ultimately cost him his job.

Taylor's legacy at the joint venture will be as the man who ousted club legend Robbie Farah. While he had the backing of the club to send the NSW hooker packing, the way he handled the situation would eventually see the rest of the playing group turn on him.

It wasn't the fact that Farah was gone. Some wanted him to stay. Others were happy to see the back of him.

But the more Taylor dug his heels in and continued his personal vendetta against Farah, the further he dropped in the estimation of the players that mattered.

Those inside the walls at the club's Concord headquarters carried the belief that Taylor's shortcoming was a lack of skills to communicate to the rest of the team. So everything they read, they believed.

It was never handled properly. The club knows that. The now infamous press conference when Taylor declared his intention to drop Farah to NSW Cup if he didn't leave would prove to be the most costly words of his coaching career.

"The worst thing we did as a club was leave him there exposed," Go said of Taylor. "We handled that very poorly. As a club, we had to grow up that day."

While there's an admission of wrongdoing, there's also a very strong belief inside the club that it was in a no-win situation when it came to Farah.

"We had somebody deliberately throwing missiles into the camp," Go said.

"You also have a situation where someone is throwing a bomb, and you can't throw a bomb back because there is no way we would have ever said anything negative about him. Ever. I did an interview saying we will never disrespect him. I know people think we did, but we really didn't.

"Everything we did behind the scenes was to try and make sure he was respected. It became personal. It should never have become personal – because it wasn't personal. Not from our point of view. However, the fact of the matter was we still did need him to leave for a whole bunch of reasons. JT's perception was that he could get more out of the team without him.

"That's not a personal attack on Robbie Farah, that was the coach's view on his ability to coach the team. There's more than just talent and ability – there's a desire to want to do what your coach says."

Chief executive Justin Pascoe walked straight into the eye of the storm when he started at the club 18 months ago, just a few weeks after the Taylor-Farah feud erupted.

Regardless of his own opinions on whether Farah should stay or go, he couldn't begin his tenure by going against the recommendation of the board that had just appointed him.

Much of what he has had to do has been about mending the wrongs of the past, and apart from a $57 million submission for a new centre of excellence, he hasn't been able to leave his imprint on the football department. Until now.

It's all well and good that sponsorship revenue is up a million dollars, membership levels have increased by 66 per cent from last year and the Tigers had the fourth-largest home crowd average.

Ultimately, Pascoe's time as Tigers boss will be deemed a success or failure depending on what happens on the football field under Cleary's watch.

"We will no longer accept mediocrity as the benchmark at this club," Pascoe said.

"We have finally put ourselves in a strong position with an ability to recruit with a freed-up compliant [salary] cap. We'll be able to go out there and add some real value to this roster without previous contractual obligations interfering with that. This change demands resilience and it demands an organisation that is comfortable about being uncomfortable."

That is why Todd Payten was never considered as an option to coach the Wests Tigers. It's why the players were never consulted.

"We didn't want to have a mate as their coach," Go said. "Those young men need a leader. They need discipline."

The Tigers believe they have got what they need in Cleary. But what the players need and want are two different things – evident in the mass turnover in players during Cleary's reign rebuilding the Panthers.

"I'm proud of what I did there," Cleary said.

"I look at that side and look and be proud of the contribution that I made there. That gives me confidence coming to a club like this that I can take them in the right direction. That I can help this club realise its potential."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... vfx7s.html
 

Tiger05

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That article with Go in it makes be think that the board is actually really good. Clearly sounds good as well.

I have a lot more confidence in the club now then when Taylor was there. He spoke well the other day but he didn't have that ability when he came to us and he made numerous poor decisions. Maybe in the future though he will get another coaching job and be able to handle it. I think it was a massive learning experience for him.
 

madunit

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f**k his learning experiences.

This club should have known from the very start that you don't put a rookie in control of a club mid-rebuild.

It had a good operator in Potter who should have had the support of the board like Taylor had.
He should have had the control and freedom that Taylor had

And if that had've happened, we wouldn't be sitting dead last and facing the prospect of losing the few decent players we had left. Could have also held on to Farah (which would have helped our cap because we would've got a discount from the NRL for Farah's loyalty).

So we've essentially had 3 wasted years thanks to this stupid f**king board. They are the ones who need a learning experience. Not Taylor. He was never going to work out here
 

Tiger Ted

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f**k his learning experiences.

This club should have known from the very start that you don't put a rookie in control of a club mid-rebuild.

It had a good operator in Potter who should have had the support of the board like Taylor had.
He should have had the control and freedom that Taylor had

And if that had've happened, we wouldn't be sitting dead last and facing the prospect of losing the few decent players we had left. Could have also held on to Farah (which would have helped our cap because we would've got a discount from the NRL for Farah's loyalty).

So we've essentially had 3 wasted years thanks to this stupid f**king board. They are the ones who need a learning experience. Not Taylor. He was never going to work out here
Our moronic f**king board have a rugby league IQ of zero.They haven't learnt a damn thing from the monumental blunders they've made that have led us to b in the abyss we r currently in !

It beggars belief that this massively challenged board & the equally idiotic Pascoe were content to offer the useless prick moses $1m/yr for 3 yrs.This piece of excrement isn't worth $1m for 3 yrs !! Thank goodness for the arrival of a rugby league inteliigent Ivan who would've done a double take when he saw the contract the illiterate board & Pascoe had rubber stamped !!
 

Tiger05

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I don't get the comments against the board. They made a mistake with Taylor. Potter was fine. I think though apart from that our only issue is that we've bought on a bunch of primma donnas to lead us into better times and these guys don't have the right characters to do that. I can't blame the board for that.
 

Tiger Ted

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I don't get the comments against the board. They made a mistake with Taylor. Potter was fine. I think though apart from that our only issue is that we've bought on a bunch of primma donnas to lead us into better times and these guys don't have the right characters to do that. I can't blame the board for that.
05 the reason y Isaac the insidious scumbag moses has been playing the big shot with our club is he knows how meek moronic spineless & subservient our f**king board r. Do u think this deadshit can f**k with a functional shrewd intelligent board who have fundamental macro knowledge of running a rugby league team.

It's doing my head in that these dopes rubber stamped a $3mill 3 yr contract for the inept tackle shy wanka moses!
 

Clifferd

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05 the reason y Isaac the insidious scumbag moses has been playing the big shot with our club is he knows how meek moronic spineless & subservient our f**king board r. Do u think this deadshit can f**k with a functional shrewd intelligent board who have fundamental macro knowledge of running a rugby league team.

It's doing my head in that these dopes rubber stamped a $3mill 3 yr contract for the inept tackle shy wanka moses!

Melbourne and Roosters won't do business with the greedy prick Moses for the exact reason with what is happening for the Tigers right now. Look at how they are both going

Sooner they get this cancer out of this club the better
 

Tiger05

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05 the reason y Isaac the insidious scumbag moses has been playing the big shot with our club is he knows how meek moronic spineless & subservient our f**king board r. Do u think this deadshit can f**k with a functional shrewd intelligent board who have fundamental macro knowledge of running a rugby league team.

It's doing my head in that these dopes rubber stamped a $3mill 3 yr contract for the inept tackle shy wanka moses!

A couple of points here. We seem to be standing up to the muppet. I don't believe the $1 million a year contract offered though simply because he is managed by the dickhead. I reckon he leaks bullshit stories and tries to f**k us up the ass with all his bullshit.

So should we even bother with dealing with this guy ? Honestly I'd be inclined to bypass the dickhead. Gives Woodsy something like $500k-$600k per year and tell him do you want to sign this week or not. Don't even bother with telling his manager. Tedesco is a different player because I think we can build around him. In stating that we appear to be offering him a fortune and there is a line even with Teddy.

The sooner this drama is over the better even if Tedesco goes. I now view Woods going as a positive step for the club. He is the worst leader I have ever seen due to his off field actions.

I'm actually confident in the board and Clearly. In stating that if these 4 players weren't such muppets I think we would have been challenging as a top 4 team in the next couple of years. Our roster only has some edge player issues now which I assume will be fixed.
 

Tiger05

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Melbourne and Roosters won't do business with the greedy prick Moses for the exact reason with what is happening for the Tigers right now. Look at how they are both going

Sooner they get this cancer out of this club the better

Are you prepared to lose Tedesco over this ? I reckon signing Woods could screw us over however I read that Clearly had decreased the offer to Woods and rightly so. At the right price Woods is a great signing. Tedesco is the player that I am worried about and I hope he has just got caught up in the wrong crowd and that is why he is coming across as a muppet right now.
 

Tiger Ted

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Are you prepared to lose Tedesco over this ? I reckon signing Woods could screw us over however I read that Clearly had decreased the offer to Woods and rightly so. At the right price Woods is a great signing. Tedesco is the player that I am worried about and I hope he has just got caught up in the wrong crowd and that is why he is coming across as a muppet right now.
I'm not concerned about losing any of these simpletons.Its to late to talk sense into teddy as he's under the spell of the fraudsters Isaac & wehbe !

Hence I will b shocked if woods & teddy don't sign with the dogs & roosters soon.
 

Clifferd

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Are you prepared to lose Tedesco over this ? I reckon signing Woods could screw us over however I read that Clearly had decreased the offer to Woods and rightly so. At the right price Woods is a great signing. Tedesco is the player that I am worried about and I hope he has just got caught up in the wrong crowd and that is why he is coming across as a muppet right now.

Tedesco is the one player I've said from the very beginning we need to keep. Unfortunately the only way o think we'll keep him is if we start winning games asap
 

Tiger Woody

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Our moronic f**king board have a rugby league IQ of zero.They haven't learnt a damn thing from the monumental blunders they've made that have led us to b in the abyss we r currently in !

It beggars belief that this massively challenged board & the equally idiotic Pascoe were content to offer the useless prick moses $1m/yr for 3 yrs.This piece of excrement isn't worth $1m for 3 yrs !! Thank goodness for the arrival of a rugby league inteliigent Ivan who would've done a double take when he saw the contract the illiterate board & Pascoe had rubber stamped !!

Justin Pascualo.....another useless CEO....
Where do we dig these dregs up from.H'es as bad as Humpty Dumpty....the reserve grade footballer and reserve grade CEO.
 

Tiger Woody

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A couple of points here. We seem to be standing up to the muppet. I don't believe the $1 million a year contract offered though simply because he is managed by the dickhead. I reckon he leaks bullshit stories and tries to f**k us up the ass with all his bullshit.

So should we even bother with dealing with this guy ? Honestly I'd be inclined to bypass the dickhead. Gives Woodsy something like $500k-$600k per year and tell him do you want to sign this week or not. Don't even bother with telling his manager. Tedesco is a different player because I think we can build around him. In stating that we appear to be offering him a fortune and there is a line even with Teddy.

The sooner this drama is over the better even if Tedesco goes. I now view Woods going as a positive step for the club. He is the worst leader I have ever seen due to his off field actions.

I'm actually confident in the board and Clearly. In stating that if these 4 players weren't such muppets I think we would have been challenging as a top 4 team in the next couple of years. Our roster only has some edge player issues now which I assume will be fixed.

Yes Tiger.
I think in 2018 we wont have the Milones,Lovetts and Edwards types.
Hopefully buy some more talented backups.
 

Das Hassler

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f**k his learning experiences.

This club should have known from the very start that you don't put a rookie in control of a club mid-rebuild.

It had a good operator in Potter who should have had the support of the board like Taylor had.
He should have had the control and freedom that Taylor had

And if that had've happened, we wouldn't be sitting dead last and facing the prospect of losing the few decent players we had left. Could have also held on to Farah (which would have helped our cap because we would've got a discount from the NRL for Farah's loyalty).

So we've essentially had 3 wasted years thanks to this stupid f**king board. They are the ones who need a learning experience. Not Taylor. He was never going to work out here


Really....just out of curiosity i went back and had a look at the comments at the time of taylor's hiring ( page 14...Taylor new coach...interesting and funny reading )....your opinion then was "he will be fine...he just needs new assistants"....so it can be sssumed that's the advice you would have given the moronic board?.....you weren't aware he was inexperienced then?...
how come?...you have all the statistics
Enquiring minds would like know
 

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