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Rape allegation

ibeme

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El Diablo said:
one would think they'd have to prove whomever gave her the drug too

Also, I don't know what the situation would be if anyone who was accused claimed that they were not aware that she was under the influence of drugs. I have no idea what the law is in that situation.
 

borat

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ibeme said:
Also, I don't know what the situation would be if anyone who was accused claimed that they were not aware that she was under the influence of drugs. I have no idea what the law is in that situation.

IMO hypothetically if there are witnesses to say that she was carried out of the pub or half-comatose I would reckon thats all they would need. Come-on you know when someone is out of it.
 

brooksy19

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6pm news should be interesting.. just what we needed this time of year ( i realise the girl is more important then the games image though)
 

[furrycat]

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El Diablo said:
if she was drugged there may be no signs of forced penetration though.

Bruising etc can still occur but it can appear to be as a result of consensual sex. The difference is the rape can be very easily proven through determining as to whether or not the woman ingested a date rape drug.

Whatever happened the police will find out
 

ibeme

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borat said:
IMO hypothetically if there are witnesses to say that she was carried out of the pub or half-comatose I would reckon thats all they would need. Come-on you know when someone is out of it.

I've got no idea how someone behaves if they're drugged, in terms of whether they pass out or what.
 

northwest9

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can the mod who deleted my post please pm me to explain.

i didnt think stating that nrl player or not, a rapist should be punished was to harsh a statement????
 

Leagueguy

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"We have been made aware of an allegation that a woman may have been sexually assaulted early Monday morning at a place where both Wests Tigers players and others were present.

"We are not aware at this stage of any specific allegation against a Wests Tigers player and the Club is very keen to work with the police to establish what may or may not have taken place.''

Thats from Noyce. I'm having trouble making sense of it.
 

borat

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El Diablo said:
like i said, wouldn't you have to prove who gave it to her?

But Why? I am saying its an offense to

a) Give someone unknowingly a date rape drug
b) have intercourse without consent, ie, take advantage of someone who is either passed out or close to it.

a & b don't have to be the same person
 

[furrycat]

Coach
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El Diablo said:
like i said, wouldn't you have to prove who gave it to her?

Giving someone a prohibited date rape agent is a crime in itself. It does not need to be proved that a person who has committed the sexual assault actually gave the victim the drug.
 

El Diablo

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ibeme said:
I've got no idea how someone behaves if they're drugged, in terms of whether they pass out or what.

i had rohypnol when i had a gastroscopy. i can't remember the procedure but was apparently concious at the time as you have to be able to swallow.
 

borat

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ibeme said:
I've got no idea how someone behaves if they're drugged, in terms of whether they pass out or what.

You mightn't but I am sure there a string of experts who would testify what the effects are. There was some high profile casses recently in sydney with convictions.
 

borat

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El Diablo said:
i had rohypnol when i had a gastroscopy. i can't remember the procedure but was apparently concious at the time as you have to be able to swallow.

Really!!! There you go, scary stuff. I can see why it the drug of choice for these scum.
 

JW

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Here we go, lead story on Ten news and Seven Arvo news.

Even if it's all BS, the mud has been thrown and shall stick well.
 

El Diablo

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[furrycat] said:
Giving someone a prohibited date rape agent is a crime in itself. It does not need to be proved that a person who has committed the sexual assault actually gave the victim the drug.

so if you hit on a chick and someone had spiked her drink then you can get ito sh*t?

doesn't make sense to me
 
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