Rd21: Parra v Souths GAME DAY THREAD @ cbus stadium 6/8/21

[Wally21]

Tend to disagree, watched Dylan through our junior program , was an excellent half with a dangerous running game and decent passing and kicking ability. Don’t think you lose it, just needs to play in a structure that brings it out.

We currently seem to be an all effort, little finesse team and it’s taking a toll

Del I didn’t see him come through the grades, I only have hi first grade experience to go on. Based on that, and my very limited knowledge of rugba lige, he looks like a good centre to me

 

[Noise]

Tend to disagree, watched Dylan through our junior program , was an excellent half with a dangerous running game and decent passing and kicking ability. Don’t think you lose it, just needs to play in a structure that brings it out.

We currently seem to be an all effort, little finesse team and it’s taking a toll

Junior football is completely different to first grade. His left to right passing is well below average, which is pretty concerning for a half on the right hand side. His running game is decent and defence is outstanding. 1 try assist all year. It's the worst of all halves in the comp. Teams know his passing game isn't a threat so jam in on him, which has negatively effected his running game.

 

[hindy111]

Junior football is completely different to first grade. His left to right passing is well below average, which is pretty concerning for a half on the right hand side. His running game is decent and defence is outstanding. 1 try assist all year. It's the worst of all halves in the comp. Teams know his passing game isn't a threat so jam in on him, which has negatively effected his running game.

Is it the worse in history for a half in an NRL season? I'd imagine even if Rankin played NRL he would jag 6 or 7.

 

[hineyrulz]

Tend to disagree, watched Dylan through our junior program , was an excellent half with a dangerous running game and decent passing and kicking ability. Don’t think you lose it, just needs to play in a structure that brings it out.

We currently seem to be an all effort, little finesse team and it’s taking a toll

His progress has been embarrassing, I wonder how much his game would of improved under a Robinson or Bellamy???


If we maintain our present coaching structures and I was looking after Dylan’s affairs I’d be looking to get out of Parra ASAP. I mean he isn’t even trusted to run the show ahead of the work experience kid.

 

[Noise]

Is it the worse in history for a half in an NRL season?

For someone that has played almost every game you would think so.

 

[hindy111]

His progress has been embarrassing, I wonder how much his game would of improved under a Robinson or Bellamy???


If we maintain our present coaching structures and I was looking after Dylan’s affairs I’d be looking to get out of Parra ASAP. I mean he isn’t even trusted to run the show ahead of the work experience kid.

CANBERRA RE GUNNING FOR HIM

 

[forward pass]

Gus Gould is absolutely correct. You don’t pass that poorly and not position yourself for a pass unless you do it at training regularly. You don’t just suddenly take the field and forget everything.

Clearly, we are playing the same way we train. Our training staff should all be sacked.

 

[Chipmunk]

I got ripped for saying we had our weaknesses hidden in Titans game who where the more dangerous side bar when down to 12 men and we piled on 3 tries which killed the contest.

We did the same against Tigers. And almost blew a 24-0 lead over the Warriors.

We are not improving as a side.

Playing half our games in the first 15 rounds against the bottom 5 teams masked our many deficiencies.

The coaching staff either didn't identify the deficiencies during that time, ignored them, or were incapable of rectifying them. I suspect a mix of all three.

This is the end result.

 

[Delboy]

Gus Gould is absolutely correct. You don’t pass that poorly and not position yourself for a pass unless you do it at training regularly. You don’t just suddenly take the field and forget everything.

Clearly, we are playing the same way we train. Our training staff should all be sacked.

What do they say :- Nail Head

think it’s becoming more obvious that they are either not training to execute or just don’t listen as they don’t trust the coaches.

 

[robert gower]

better this week with Moses back Arthers way too young to be in the side well outclassed. This week same cap but we are second class against the top sides why ? coach has to go fact, reading 4 Mill parra players out of contract but the way they are playing who would want them Dogs all ready rebuilt

 

[hindy111]

Parra lost
I lost $100
My uber eats Indian was cold

I got the trifecta

 

[Wally21]

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better this week with Moses back Arthers way too young to be in the side well outclassed. This week same cap but we are second class against the top sides why ? coach has to go fact, reading 4 Mill parra players out of contract but the way they are playing who would want them Dogs all ready rebuilt

Bro you confuse me every time! I see your name and think you’re a Panthers supporter!!! Anyway you make a good point

 

[lucablight]

But less suited to their positions. Townsend is a halfback and Barba was a fullback. They did halfback/fullback things. Gutherson and Drown both lack in areas required at their positions.

How is Gutherson not suited to fullback? Yes he’s currently in poor form but he’s fourth in the competition for running metres, he’s good under the high ball, has great support play, good last line of defence and he can chime into the backline to set up Sivo. Not every player in strong in every area. Townsend was a non factor in the Sharks winning the premiership.

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

The biggest problem with this teams attack is that they are waaaay too deep and the defence has ample time to adjust. This is on the bush coach.

I've said it before, I will never criticise any of our players because they are doing what they are coached to do. The coaching is flawed, not the players.

Wait till we get an nrl standard coach, then I will unleash on the shit players

 

[forward pass]

What do they say :- Nail Head

think it’s becoming more obvious that they are either not training to execute or just don’t listen as they don’t trust the coaches.

I went out to watch Parra train earlier this year because I don’t live far from their training base. I watched for about an hour and I was completely unimpressed. They practiced a backline block play about 20 times and I have never seen them use it In a game. The coaches were watching but hardly got involved at all. I found it very ordinary. I will admit I haven’t been to too many sessions over the years so I cant compare so maybe it’s my perception only. Maybe.

 

[Wally21]

For someone that has played almost every game you would think so.

Noise I’m too lazy to go and check the stats. But has he reply only had one try assist all year? He’s not Cody Walker but I didn’t think it was that bad??!!!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This is what ruined Lane last year and is happening with Ice this year.

I don't think anyone is getting worn out as the season has gone on, but we do fatigue alarmingly during games. I think it's because our starting forwards make too many carries. With the top sides it's either wingers making the most carries or they spread the workload. There are 20 forwards in the top 50 for all runs in the NRL, and four of them (20%) play for Parra. We also rely on our starting forwards for too many minutes, which explains why our defence lacks energy over 80:

Team	# forwards in top 50 carries	# backs in top 50 carries	# players in top 50 tackles
Storm	0	2	0
Rabbits	2	2	1
Panthers	1	3	3
Eels	4	2	5
Roosters	2	3	4
Seagulls	1	1	2
Raiders	1	1	3
Knights	4	0	5
Titans	1	1	2
Sharks	2	2	5
Dragons	1	1	4
Warriors	0	2	3
Tigers	1	4	4
Cowboys	0	2	4
Broncos	1	2	2
Bulldogs	0	1	3

Either our bench isn't good enough or Arthur's doesn't trust them. I'm sure we have more money tied up in our top three middles than other clubs. Do we need to get our money's worth out of them? Our team is built to send forwards up the middle at a set defence, and likewise defend against a much slower ruck than we've been seeing since last year. I think we'd be better off spreading the cap more evenly in the forwards, which won't happen while Paulo and RCG are in the team.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How is Gutherson not suited to fullback?

He's too slow.

Yes he’s currently in poor form but he’s fourth in the competition for running metres

I think he runs too much, especially after a quick play-the-ball. There are times when good ball should go to someone more dangerous, like Dylan Brown. That merkin gets the scraps in our team.

he’s good under the high ball, has great support play, good last line of defence and he can chime into the backline to set up Sivo.

I agree with all that, but it describes Lockyer when he moved to the halves shortly before turning 27 (Gutherson's age next month) and he was quicker than Gutherson is.

Not every player in strong in every area.

Agreed, I just think he'd be better using his brains and work rate defending in the line and receiving the ball closer to the ruck. We need a fullback with more speed who can avoid being gang tackled and start our sets better.

Townsend was a non factor in the Sharks winning the premiership.

Nobody who handles the ball that much is a non-factor. He took the ball to the line and kicked well and provided solid defence. He was also one of the hardest working support players in the comp that year: https://www.nrl.com/stats/players/?competition=111&season=2016&stat=1000015

Another thing he did was to allow better players in Barba and Maloney to have the ball when it was on. He didn't hog the good ball to make himself look better.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Noise I’m too lazy to go and check the stats. But has he reply only had one try assist all year? He’s not Cody Walker but I didn’t think it was that bad??!!!

Yep just one. He had five in each of the previous seasons: https://www.nrl.com/players/nrl-premiership/eels/dylan-brown/

 

[Pazza]

Brads coaching style