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Rd8: 8pm EELS v Broncos GAME DAY THREAD @ TIO Stadium - Darwin 21/4/23

Poupou Escobar

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How many Hodgson misses has lead to tries or how many times has Hodgson been unable to get near marker and let a yawning gap around the ruck??? He's been an absolute disaster defensively.


"BuT bUt BuT bUt BuT lInE sPeEd"
So is he better off not attempting the tackles he misses? He would make the same amount of tackles per minute but with a 100% tackle effectiveness. Would that really be better?

Like my old friend Mik Jordan used to say, you always miss 100% of the tackles you don’t attempt.
 
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No you clown... Hodgson is better off making the tackles he attempts.

The point is he misses so many - even BA could see this, and hooked him. Usually you just lamely fall in behind the authority figure... why haven't you seen the light here?
 
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Yes, we all know that... and BA didn't bring him back on this time.

Point is that based on observations of previous games BA should have removed Hodgson at 20mins, before his missed tackles predictably cost tries. He didn't and we again paid the price - refer to Happy Meel's stats, which you have still failed to convincingly dodge.

So do you (opinion) think Hodgson should be selected to start again next week, come off the bench, or play NSW Cup?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Why does anyone engage with the the troll

Q/ did Hodgson return after being subbed in the first half ? I can recall seeing him
Back on ?

maybe just maybe the coach has run out of patience …
Maybe we used 25% of our interchanges replacing injured players. We used our second last interchange bringing Matterson back on for RCG and then chasing points with five to go we brought Greig (a strictly attacking player) on for Doorey, with Matterson moving out to the right edge. Hands didn't look like he needed a rest but Doorey certainly did.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yes, we all know that... and BA didn't bring him back on this time.
There's only eight interchanges and we used two of them replacing injured players you dopey merkin. Hands was doing fine at hooker, so why burn an interchange for no reason? Doorey was the one who needed the rest.
Point is that based on observations of previous games BA should have removed Hodgson at 20mins, before his missed tackles predictably cost tries. He didn't and we again paid the price - refer to Happy Meel's stats, which you have still failed to convincingly dodge.
I already told you, tackles per minute is the key stat in the middle. If a bloke is missing more but still making more per minute it just means he is working harder.
So do you (opinion) think Hodgson should be selected to start again next week, come off the bench, or play NSW Cup?
Next week will be an easier game than this week's, so I suspect it won't make a lot of difference who starts. But without RCG we might not be able to afford to use two interchanges at dummy half. The only time this year we've done that was against the Tigers.
 

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I already told you, tackles per minute is the key stat in the middle. If a bloke is missing more but still making more per minute it just means he is working harder.
Yes, by this metric, Mahoney was Canterbury’s best last week against us. By this logic, teams running a train at a defensive weakness = target player demonstrating they are a better defender because they’re busier, even when missing a load of tackles.

Pou, you’re a good guy and fun to engage with, but even for your standards, this is dumb as shit.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yes, by this metric, Mahoney was Canterbury’s best last week against us. By this logic, teams running a train at a defensive weakness = target player demonstrating they are a better defender because they’re busier, even when missing a load of tackles.

Pou, you’re a good guy and fun to engage with, but even for your standards, this is dumb as shit.
Every team targets the hooker in the middle. Who do you think they run at when Hands is on ffs. They have to run at someone.
 

hineyrulz

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So is he better off not attempting the tackles he misses? He would make the same amount of tackles per minute but with a 100% tackle effectiveness. Would that really be better?

Like my old friend Mik Jordan used to say, you always miss 100% of the tackles you don’t attempt.
He would be better off in an Aged home facility.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yes, we worked out from the stats that he’s making .03 fewer tackles per minute. Which is 2.4 fewer per 80 minutes. Enormous discrepancy.
And instead of the extra attempted tackles Hodgson is falling off, Hands is doing nothing. How is that any more useful than a missed tackle?
 

Gazzamatta

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As much as I regret saying it, I’d go Arthur as he can cover multiple positions giving us some flexibility. He can handle 10 minutes either side of half time in the middle.
Jakes most redeeming feature by far is his defence. Hes even more solid in D this year than last. Start Hands and use Jake as relief. Either that or share Hands work with Yates. Hodgson hasnt impressed me from minute one. If his sole contribution is leadership, Im yet to see that either. Players may have been taken in by his talk early but Id reckon no bugger is listening now.
 

Noise

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And instead of the extra attempted tackles Hodgson is falling off, Hands is doing nothing. How is that any more useful than a missed tackle?
Maybe we have had the ball slightly more when Hands is on and he hasn’t needed to make those whopping 2.4 extra tackles per 80 minutes. And maybe we have had the ball longer because we concede less tries while Hands is on and don’t keep kicking off back to the opposition giving them multiple sets in a row.

At the end of the day our defence is worse while Hodgson is on the field. There is not a stat that proves otherwise. We miss more tackles, and concede more tries - which really is the only thing that matters. It doesn’t matter how many tackles per minute merkins are attempting if the opposition keeps running straight through scoring tries.

The team also attacks better when Hands is on too.
 

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