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Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent

taste2taste

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I read today that the Super Rugby semi final in NZ has changed its kick off time from a night game to an afternoon game so they don't go up against the Warriors V Storm game.

Our tiny insignificant sport has forced the 2027 Union World Cup to change their dates so they don't clash with the NRL season and now Super Rugby are changing its Semi Finals kick offs.

At least Union understands its place in the pecking order.
 

reanimate

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Will be interesting to see how these 2 Wallabies go in the NRL.

Hopefully they are a huge success and more NRL clubs start picking off Union players until they have none left.
If they’re even half decent and can fill a spot at a first grade level it’s a good demonstration of where we can source more talent for teams 18, 19 and 20- Union. We’re also not limited to Australian Union, we can take players from wherever it’s played around the world; the Pacific Islands, South Africa, NZ, the UK etc.
 

titoelcolombiano

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I read today that the Super Rugby semi final in NZ has changed its kick off time from a night game to an afternoon game so they don't go up against the Warriors V Storm game.

Our tiny insignificant sport has forced the 2027 Union World Cup to change their dates so they don't clash with the NRL season and now Super Rugby are changing its Semi Finals kick offs.

At least Union understands its place in the pecking order.
Let me preface this by saying, yes, Rugby Union has established a fairly decent international presence.

I would stop short of calling it a global game though. They are not as big as they'd like to think they are on the world stage and Australia being absolutely crushed is not good for their world game. If NZ and the rest of the Pacific fall to RL too, they all of a sudden have lost a few key pieces off the chess board.

1. The All Blacks: No Union brand transcends the sport like the All Blacks, if they follow the Wallabies' lead and become mediocre, helped along by an aggressive NRL push into NZ, they lose something unique the sport had. Yes, it is popular in Ireland, Wales, pockets of France, southern England and South Africa. But none of those countries has Union running in the veins like it does / did in NZ and the Pacific Islands and that is a huge blow.

2. Playing talent: Not unlike league, NZ and the Pacific is relied upon for a disproportionately large percentage of their global playing talent (for just about all nations). As the famous line from the commentator goes from the 2023 RUWC... ''and another Kiwi scores for Ireland''. If this talent increasingly starts choosing league, they are left to rely more heavily on South Africans, English and British talent and it just isn't as abundant as the game is not as deeply and culturally ingrained in those countries as it is in the Pacific.

3. World Cup Quality: If you are claiming to be a global sport, only have 10 professional nations playing and two of the historically most competitive sides (Aus & NZ) are suddenly mediocre and unable to compete for major titles, it suddenly leaves you with a shallow pool of England, France, Ireland and South Africa that are any realistic chance of winning trophies... Is that much different to the ''tiny'' sport of Rugby League where You have England, Australia and New Zealand as the big dogs?

Anyway... cheers to the decline of Union.
 

titoelcolombiano

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If they’re even half decent and can fill a spot at a first grade level it’s a good demonstration of where we can source more talent for teams 18, 19 and 20- Union. We’re also not limited to Australian Union, we can take players from wherever it’s played around the world; the Pacific Islands, South Africa, NZ, the UK etc.
RL administration has always been conservative and we seem to need to see something works before ''taking a chance'' (Vegas, expansion etc). You make a good point because now that two clubs have taken the leap and signed Wallaby players, all they need to do is hold down a first grade spot as solid players and it may start a feeding frenzy.
 
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Let me preface this by saying, yes, Rugby Union has established a fairly decent international presence.

I would stop short of calling it a global game though. They are not as big as they'd like to think they are on the world stage and Australia being absolutely crushed is not good for their world game. If NZ and the rest of the Pacific fall to RL too, they all of a sudden have lost a few key pieces off the chess board.

1. The All Blacks: No Union brand transcends the sport like the All Blacks, if they follow the Wallabies' lead and become mediocre, helped along by an aggressive NRL push into NZ, they lose something unique the sport had. Yes, it is popular in Ireland, Wales, pockets of France, southern England and South Africa. But none of those countries has Union running in the veins like it does / did in NZ and the Pacific Islands and that is a huge blow.

2. Playing talent: Not unlike league, NZ and the Pacific is relied upon for a disproportionately large percentage of their global playing talent (for just about all nations). As the famous line from the commentator goes from the 2023 RUWC... ''and another Kiwi scores for Ireland''. If this talent increasingly starts choosing league, they are left to rely more heavily on South Africans, English and British talent and it just isn't as abundant as the game is not as deeply and culturally ingrained in those countries as it is in the Pacific.

3. World Cup Quality: If you are claiming to be a global sport, only have 10 professional nations playing and two of the historically most competitive sides (Aus & NZ) are suddenly mediocre and unable to compete for major titles, it suddenly leaves you with a shallow pool of England, France, Ireland and South Africa that are any realistic chance of winning trophies... Is that much different to the ''tiny'' sport of Rugby League where You have England, Australia and New Zealand as the big dogs?

Anyway... cheers to the decline of Union.
P.S. The rugby league world cup is the true/original World Cup.
Not this doppy Webb Ellis toilet trophy
 
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One draw card Union had was that a player got looked after post career with a cushy corporate job but that doesn’t matter anymore given the salaries professional athletes earn these days. Is there even a point to Union anymore?
 

Wb1234

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Nobody does raging, bitterness, spite and jealousy than the rah rahs. Having once been in a rugger clubhouse and seen the empty picture frames of those who dared to play another game and were persona non grata afterwards, it shows behind all the bluster of played in heaven and see the world bull shit, they have been possessed with bitterness for the last 129 years over little old Rugby league and it eats the hell out of them. Hell mend them.
See bath
Its funny seeing ruggers talk about it essentially being a defibrillator for australian rugby. They know it's in a death rattle, and the only good thing about the tour is the financial sugar hit.

0 cultural relevance.
30 percent of the aru current revenue is provided by the irb

ten percent or so comes from the nzru

without foreign support the aru is looking at revenue falling close to Half
 
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The first Rugby League World Cup tournament was held in France in 1954.

The first Rugby Union World Cup tournament was held in Australia and New Zealand in 1987.
Nope that's incorrect, it's only recently that the IRB bought the naming rights of Rugby World Cup from Rugby League (fact) hence Rugby league is the original 😀
 

Wb1234

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Isn't he 23, too old?
Realistically 18 or younger if they don’t have a very strong rugby league junior background

He’s going to be a liability in defence and the speed of the game he will struggle hugely with

he will be lucky to play more than 15 mins in a spell if he’s not hiding on the wing in defence
 

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