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MSIH

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Long term though, plodding along in a side that will be bottom 4 regularly will take plenty of cashola off his next contract. Sh*t coach, sh*t forwards, sh*t backline apart from Morris and Idris to an extent.

I reckon he'll go/has gone, and don't blame him. It is plenty of money.
 

cupid

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If we don't have enough money to match the Bulldogs offer how are we going to sign Cronk?
 

Dutchy

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We do have enough with that extra 300k. But why sign someone who has played barely half a season on 350k plus?
 

GB!

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if hodko has gone, whats wrong with DCE?
TBH i've never seen him play, but know plenty of people who know footy who rate him highly.
don't get me wrong, i'd love cronk at manly. but save our cash and see what DCE has to offer first.

do you think dessie could get the best out of say... a tim smith type player?

i just hope we don't end up with orford again....
 

Dutchy

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I like DCE, but I don't think he would cut it in the top grade. Not for quite a while anyway.
 

cupid

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Needling toughens veteran halfback Brett Kimmorley, says coach Kevin Moore


While Kevin Moore is not pleased Kimmorley is being used as one of the scapegoats for NSW's State of Origin I loss last week, he knows that kind of targeting of his half brings out the best in him.
"It will just toughen him up mentally as he's always been confident in his ability and shows that every week," Moore said. "He just goes out and does his job."
The fact Kimmorley is up against New Zealand half Benji Marshall, when the Bulldogs meet Wests Tigers at ANZ Stadium tonight also pleases Moore as the Dogs try to lift themselves from 13th on the table.
The side that nearly won the minor premiership last year has just three wins this year -- the same as Cronulla and North Queensland.
"Noddy always loves a challenge and responds tremendously to those tests," Moore said. "It'll be that way when he faces Benji."
The pair have comparable statistics when it comes to try and line-break assists.
The difference is that Marshall is a hard man to put on the ground -- he has made 50 tackle breaks to Kimmorley's 20 -- but the Bulldogs half works harder in defence, making an average 22 tackles per game to Marshall's 10.
Kimmorley has also made 92 kicks in play so far to Marshall's 67.
Moore said he had been a keen admirer of Kimmorley before he arrived at the Bulldogs at the end of 2008.
"He's won a grand final, collected a Clive Churchill Medal, has double figures in the number of times he's played for Australia and in Origin but yet for whatever reason he cops criticism," Moore said.
"I think it's pretty unfair.
"Noddy I thought was fantastic in the first Origin and was one bloke who could hold his head pretty high.
"His workrate in defence and trying to get his team going forward was great."
Kimmorley has been "a bit flat" at training this week and Moore puts that down to fatigue from two hard games in five days, against Queensland and then Melbourne.
"But he was positively buzzing today," Moore said.
"He's pretty immune to all the talk. He's been around a long time and unfortunately for a bloke who's achieved so much, he's still a target."
But Kimmorley's days might be numbered at the Bulldogs due to the club's pursuit of Manly half Trent Hodkinson.
The Bulldogs have made a three-year offer, believed to be worth $270,000 a year, to the 21-year-old.
He has played just 10 NRL games but made his representative debut after seven, when he was picked for City.
The Dogs are waiting to hear back from Hodkinson, who says he would like to remain at Manly as he and Kieran Foran have formed a firm partnership and friendship in the halves.
But if he does come to Canterbury, Kimmorley, 33, may not be offered another year.


Hopefully a recent comment by him.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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Needling toughens veteran halfback Brett Kimmorley, says coach Kevin Moore


While Kevin Moore is not pleased Kimmorley is being used as one of the scapegoats for NSW's State of Origin I loss last week, he knows that kind of targeting of his half brings out the best in him.
"It will just toughen him up mentally as he's always been confident in his ability and shows that every week," Moore said. "He just goes out and does his job."
The fact Kimmorley is up against New Zealand half Benji Marshall, when the Bulldogs meet Wests Tigers at ANZ Stadium tonight also pleases Moore as the Dogs try to lift themselves from 13th on the table.
The side that nearly won the minor premiership last year has just three wins this year -- the same as Cronulla and North Queensland.
"Noddy always loves a challenge and responds tremendously to those tests," Moore said. "It'll be that way when he faces Benji."
The pair have comparable statistics when it comes to try and line-break assists.
The difference is that Marshall is a hard man to put on the ground -- he has made 50 tackle breaks to Kimmorley's 20 -- but the Bulldogs half works harder in defence, making an average 22 tackles per game to Marshall's 10.
Kimmorley has also made 92 kicks in play so far to Marshall's 67.
Moore said he had been a keen admirer of Kimmorley before he arrived at the Bulldogs at the end of 2008.
"He's won a grand final, collected a Clive Churchill Medal, has double figures in the number of times he's played for Australia and in Origin but yet for whatever reason he cops criticism," Moore said.
"I think it's pretty unfair.
"Noddy I thought was fantastic in the first Origin and was one bloke who could hold his head pretty high.
"His workrate in defence and trying to get his team going forward was great."
Kimmorley has been "a bit flat" at training this week and Moore puts that down to fatigue from two hard games in five days, against Queensland and then Melbourne.
"But he was positively buzzing today," Moore said.
"He's pretty immune to all the talk. He's been around a long time and unfortunately for a bloke who's achieved so much, he's still a target."
But Kimmorley's days might be numbered at the Bulldogs due to the club's pursuit of Manly half Trent Hodkinson.
The Bulldogs have made a three-year offer, believed to be worth $270,000 a year, to the 21-year-old.
He has played just 10 NRL games but made his representative debut after seven, when he was picked for City.
The Dogs are waiting to hear back from Hodkinson, who says he would like to remain at Manly as he and Kieran Foran have formed a firm partnership and friendship in the halves.
But if he does come to Canterbury, Kimmorley, 33, may not be offered another year.


Hopefully a recent comment by him.

So let me get this right, Kimmorley may not have a club next year, but is somehow he best half in NSWs? This conclusively proves the NSW selectors need to go.

I'm absolutely lost how anybody can say Kimmorley played well in the first SOO. I've heard it a number of times and can only put it down to his commitments on Fox. Although I'm sure I heard it on 9 too. Didn't set up a try and couldn't even see the ball.
 

willvillain

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His defence was fantastic, and his first kick was inch-perfect.

Aside from that it's pretty hard to was very good...
 

nz eagle

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Has manly even offered Trent a contract yet? from what I have read it doesnt sound like they have even made him an offer.
 

APRIL BELLE

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Has manly even offered Trent a contract yet? from what I have read it doesnt sound like they have even made him an offer.

I know I will get sh*t on but this is what I have been told.

Allegedly Manly did make an offer and it was close enough to the original Dogs offer for Trent to stay but then he made the City side and the Dogs lifted their offer by reportedly $200k over the 3 years.

Again allegedly Manly couldn't increase their offer and he reportedly advised Manly that he would be taking up the Dogs offer. That was on the 24 May.

What has happened since I am not sure, but Manly have been none too confident of him changing his mind with the exception of Hasler's quotes.

Can the forum members tell me, how much do they think Manly should offer Trent. In 11 games he has made 6 try assists, 2 line breaks, 1 line break assist. He is averaging 42 metres per game with the ball. Against the Broncs he only handled the ball 37 times. These stats are from nrlstats.com

His defence is great, but is he worth $270k per year ?
 

zombie jesus

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Right at this very minute he's not worth that much, if he stays on then by the end of 2011 he will probably be worth more than that.

If he stays with Manly, he will be partnered with Foran and he could be worth $400k+ the next time his contract is up, if he goes to the Bulldogs, doesn't do so well he could be looking at a similar or even smaller contract to this one, then from his perspective, he could do his knee tomorrow and never be the same and lose out on money.

It's a difficult decision for him.
 

cupid

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I know I will get sh*t on but this is what I have been told.

Allegedly Manly did make an offer and it was close enough to the original Dogs offer for Trent to stay but then he made the City side and the Dogs lifted their offer by reportedly $200k over the 3 years.

Again allegedly Manly couldn't increase their offer and he reportedly advised Manly that he would be taking up the Dogs offer. That was on the 24 May.

What has happened since I am not sure, but Manly have been none too confident of him changing his mind with the exception of Hasler's quotes.

Can the forum members tell me, how much do they think Manly should offer Trent. In 11 games he has made 6 try assists, 2 line breaks, 1 line break assist. He is averaging 42 metres per game with the ball. Against the Broncs he only handled the ball 37 times. These stats are from nrlstats.com

His defence is great, but is he worth $270k per year ?
He hasn't played well the past few weeks, maybe because of all this talk about his contract but I do see alot of potential, Hopefully the NRL make a decision on the Salary cap so we can find out where he is going, so he can get back to playing like he was.
 
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