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Yosh

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Sharpe looked Papenhuyzen size. Maybe he is still young enough to grow but seemed too small for a modern centre, maybe a good small winger?
 

Woosh

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HE is Newcastle's oldest, most experienced player, and champion centre Dane Gagai hopes that will continue for a good while yet.

Gagai, the 33-year-old former Kangaroos and Queensland Origin representative, is off contract at the end of this season but has no intention of retiring.

Instead he hopes to re-sign with the Knights for another two or three seasons and kicked off his retention campaign with a standout performance in last week's season-opening loss to Canberra, in which he gained a game-high 210 metres in attack and made 14 tackles, with no misses, despite being hindered by a chest infection.

Gagai told the Newcastle Herald that he has unfinished business because he wants to cap off an outstanding career that has delivered 22 Origin appearances and seven Tests with a premiership triumph.

"I'm definitely not thinking this'll be my last year," Gagai said.

"I'm not quite done yet. I still want to win a grand final."

After debuting for Brisbane in 2011, the Mackay product has strung together 269 NRL games for the Broncos, South Sydney and, in two stints, Newcastle.

He sees no reason why he can't emulate the likes of Cameron Smith, Paul Gallen and Daly Cherry-Evans by playing into his mid-30s, pointing out that he has managed to avoid serious injuries during his 14-season career.

"The body's feeling good and I'm looking to go another two or three years," Gagai said.

"I've been very fortunate. I've never really had any major surgeries.

"The biggest one I've ever had was a cleanout of a dislocated pinky [finger].

"So I'm still feeling fit, feeling strong.

"I've always said that once I can't keep up, or I lose the passion for it, that's probably the day I look at retirement.

"But that's still a long way away.

"I'm looking to go another couple of years after this, but my main focus is this year.

"I've always believed that that stuff sorts itself out.

"For now, I'm just focused on this season and trying to build on last year and hopefully making the top four.

"We know how important that is if we want to win a premiership."

Whether Gagai can continue playing as long as his father Ray did remains to be seen.

"Dad was 40 when he finished up in Mackay, still playing A grade," Gagai said.

"So I'm not sure if it's the Torres Strait Islander genes, if I've got good ligaments, or what it is.

"But Dad didn't have many injuries, and I've been very fortunate in my career to avoid them. Touch wood."

Gagai has also not given up hope of winning an Origin recall.

After helping the Maroons win five of the eight interstate series between 2015 and 2022, Gagai was overlooked last season in favour of Hamiso Tabuai-Fidau.

The Dolphins flyer proceeded to score four tries across three games as Queensland retained their title.

Maroons coach Billy Slater, however, has clearly not shut the door on Gagai, inviting him to attend a pre-season Queensland bonding weekend recently.

"Obviously that was one of the tougher times in my career, probably more so because I've got an eight-year-old son now and all he's ever known is me playing rep footy," Gagai said of last year's omission.

"I obviously took it hard, but I think he took it ever harder, and that doubled down on it for me.

"I haven't given up on Origin.

"I still love the state and will do whatever I can for them, but like I said, it's a new year and my focus is on Newcastle and I'll be doing everything I can to win enough games to hopefully make the top four.

"All the other stuff will take care of itself."


TLDR
The old man wants to play till his 40 Iike his old man.
 

perverse

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As long as Gags keeps performing I see no problems. I was in favour of bringing him back, and so far he's done everything asked of him and then some if you can deal with the 2 or 3 shocking performances he seems to slip in a year. Not on huge money, good experience. Keep him on a rolling 1 year contract I would say and assess as we go, no need to sign him up to 2-3 years at a time at this age. He wants to be at Newcastle, at home. I think that's a reasonable proposition for both parties.
 

Mr_Knightside

Juniors
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Yeah I think 1 year with another 1 year in the club’s favour would be fair. He’ll need to take a little less you’d think but I can’t imagine he’ll be fielding heaps of offers from elsewhere given he’s wanting to settle in Newcastle with his family. I would maybe be ok with 2 years + 1 year option in the club’s favour but we’d want to see a good output from him this year to justify that. Or we could offer less $$$ if he wants the guaranteed 2 years.
 

Burwood

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He’ll probably get a very similar contract as Frizell- player option for 2025, club option for 2026.

Plus it’s not like we have guys in reserves that can’t get a shot- he and Best are still our top two centres and I can’t see that changing anytime soon unless we target someone outside of the club.
 

PhilGould

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We have a handful of young centres coming through, including both Australian Schoolboys centres from last year, but Wilson De Courcey is the pick of the bunch and apparently already moving into the top 30 next year. Plays right centre and looks like the obvious option to replace Gagai in a year or two. Only 17 or 18 now though.
 

Woody90

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Didn’t we also sign some centre from Penrith who’s meant to be the next big thing?

Sounds like another generation of too many backs and not enough props.
 

PhilGould

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De Courcey is the one from Penrith.

Think we’ve actually got the most legitimate NRL prospects we’ve had coming through the juniors in a long time and they’re pretty balanced across positions.
 

Woosh

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Dumping Jackson Hastings this week was a ballsy move by Knights coach Adam O'Brien.

Ballsy, but the right call.

The easier option for the coach to get Jack Cogger into the run-on side in the halves for the Melbourne Storm game on Sunday after two lack-lustre defeats would have been to sacrifice five-eighth Tyson Gamble. That would have attracted less attention.

Instead, O'Brien made the tougher decision to relegate his more established senior playmaker, knowing full well the headlines, commentary and potential bushfires would follow.

Why Hastings then? Because, as we alluded to in this column last week when we highlighted the pressure the halfback was under heading into the Cowboys game last Saturday, his form just hasn't been good enough.

There is no question the serious ankle surgery he had in the off-season has been a factor in the way he has started the year. He has looked off the pace in the opening two games and his slow tempo and failure to regularly engage and square up the defence has meant there has been few attacking opportunities created out wide. His kicking has also suffered because of his leg issues.

O'Brien is banking on a quicker, busier Cogger opening up avenues for Kalyn Ponga and the likes of Bradman Best, who has hardly been sighted in the opening two games, to create some havoc in the Storm outside backs. Cogger's bigger kicking game will also help. Gamble, who hasn't been flash, can probably thank his enthusiasm and competitiveness for papering over some errors and missed tackles and saving him at Hastings' expense.

Given his controversial history, Hastings' reaction to being dropped will now be interesting. He still has another year to go on his contract, and next season he'll be one of the club's highest paid players. A positive response around the playing group, at training and in NSW Cup and getting some more confidence in his leg will quickly ensure the blowtorch is turned back on Cogger and Gamble should their combination fail to fire.

O'Brien's selection call will no doubt also be felt elsewhere within the squad.
It should put all players on notice.


No rush on Gags call
Don't expect a decision any time soon about Dane Gagai's playing future at the Knights beyond this season.

The club is aware the off-contract veteran centre wants to go around again for at least one and maybe even a couple more years. But officials also know that at 33 and in his 14th season in the top grade, Gagai is highly unlikely to get any genuine interest from a rival NRL club. So they have the luxury of being able to sit back and wait.

In Gagai's favour is his great resilience. Remarkably, he has averaged almost 23 games a season for the past 11 years and there is nothing wrong with his form to start this season after a strong 2023. He's been among Newcastle's best in losses to the Raiders and Cowboys.

Also helping his cause are the injury dramas that have stalled promising young centre Krystian Mapapalangi's career. He was identified as a potential replacement down the track for Gagai more than 12 months ago but he can't stay on the field.

In the end, it may all boil down to Gagai's appetite. He's earning about $550,000 this season but if the Knights do pull the trigger on an extension, it will be a matter of how big a pay cut he's prepared to accept.


Townsville torture test

The weather in Townsville was a psychological no-go zone for Knights players to talk about prior to the clash against the Cowboys last Saturday.

It wasn't used as an excuse afterwards for the golden point loss either. But that doesn't mean players didn't suffer because of it and it really showed in their lack of energy in the latter stages and during golden point..

We're hearing veteran backrower Tyson Frizell lost close to 5kg, while many of his teammates shed more than 3kg.

Skipper Kalyn Ponga looked "cooked" during the post-game press conference, which might explain his lapse in concentration that led to a costly second half knock-on and also why he couldn't get across to cover the Chad Townsend grubber for Jeremiah Nanai's try that sent the game into golden point.

The team was at the airport the following morning ready to leave at 10.30am for the eight-hour trip home.


Who was Baz's Best?

Rd 2- Knights v Cowboys: 3 Adam Elliott 2 Leo Thompson 1 Dane Gagai

Rd 1 - Knights v Raiders: 3 Dane Gagai 2 Greg Marzhew 1 Kai Pearce-Paul

Progress points: 4 Gagai 3 Elliott 2 Thompson, Marzhew 1 Pearce-Paul

 

PhilGould

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Since doing his shoulder last preseason he hasn't played 2 consecutive games. Immediately did his shoulder again in his return game and missed the rest of the season, got KO'd first tackle in the trial and then hurt his shoulder again in round 1 of NSW Cup. Only a 4-6 week injury this time but still not ideal.

He's off-contract so he'll be feeling the pressure.
 

Woosh

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Daniel Saifiti could do worse this week before hopping on the plane to Auckland than sifting through his DVD collection, if he has one, of old Knights games.

Maybe watch a replay from back in June 2019 when, at just 22, he came of age as an NRL prop.

It was the night he lifted an under-manned Newcastle to a shock 20-12 win over South Sydney at ANZ Stadium by taking on all three Burgess brothers almost single handedly and finishing with a knockout victory.

The five-star performance catapulted him into the NSW Origin side the following week where he was a dominant figure during series wins for the Blues that year and in 2021.

Five years on, how the Knights now desperately need him to re-discover that dominance.

Named in the starting side alongside twin brother Jacob following the loss of Leo Thompson to suspension, it's going to take his very best if the Knights are to tame a powerful Warriors pack, led by form frontrowers Addin Finua-Blake and former teammate Mitch Barnett, on Easter Sunday.

Except for a few encouraging moments in his three games off the bench to date, Saifiti's form has largely been underwhelming. He played just 30 minutes of last Sunday's win over Melbourne.

Maybe a timely visual reminder of just what he is capable of will flick a switch and awaken the sleeping giant within.


Finding their mojo

After a slow start last season, the Knights ended up averaging 26 points a game to finish 2023 as the competition's fourth-best attacking team. It helped having the Dally M medal winner in red-hot form at the back end and two of the game's most prolific try-scoring wingers converting just about every opportunity.

In contrast, Newcastle's three games to date this season have yielded an average of just 15 so they have lost almost two converted tries per game. It highlights what we already know - the attack is yet to find its mojo. Importantly, there has been plenty of dog in the fight so far when it comes to defence, which is a foundation the team can build on.


Some simple observations:

1 - The lack of height and depth on the Knights' uncontested bombs from mid-field at the end of sets is an easy out for the opposition. Better execution is a must.

2 - New boy Kai Pearce-Paul is one of the few Knights forwards with an off-load. But he'll put it away and not even contemplate using it if he keeps looking around for support and no one is there.

3- Coach Adam O'Brien now has the best of both worlds with his hooking rotation. The toughness of Phoenix Crossland's defence in the middle and the crisp dummy half service of Jayden Brailey.


Oates not an option

The Knights are no closer to filling their final roster spot. But to end the speculation, they won't be signing Bronco Corey Oates.


Jacko and the kid

There were some promising signs of what's potentially ahead for emerging English talent Will Pryce during the Knights' big NSW Cup win last Sunday. While the 21-year-old still has plenty of work to do on his defence if he is to become a regular NRL five-eighth down the track, his footwork and speed in attack will excite Knights fans.

Playing outside experienced halfback Jackson Hastings won't hurt his cause either, while it lasts. Hastings could not have done much more against the Bears to push his case for an NRL recall.


Who is your Papi

Young Knights fullback Fletcher Sharpe had a rollercoaster week he is not likely to forget in the lead-up to the Storm clash.

Coach Adam O'Brien used Sharpe in a specialised role at training during the build-up to the game. During opposed sessions, Sharpe masqueraded as Ryan Papenhuyzen, complete with taped head, to try and emulate the potential threat the Storm fullback may pose. It's not the first time the Cessnock junior has been likened to a young Papi.

That was the high point of the week. The low point was ending it in hospital on antibiotics and missing his side's big win over North Sydney in NSW Cup after boils on his arm became badly infected.

 

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