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K-Man

Bench
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Agree with lots said about Hodko already. For mine the reason we have to take drastic measures is that he is not just playing poorly, he's having a seriously negative impact. It's not rocks and diamonds, it's a big pile of rocks constantly. You actually could play a forward in their halves because Hodko doesn't contribute anything anyway.

There is almost no way I can see that any other player could be worse. We need to hit the market so badly. And somehow ship him off.

Honestly he's ruining any enjoyment of games for me now. We can't win with him holding us back.
 

Alex28

Coach
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I don't know what dropping him does at the moment when we are trying to attract some big names to come here. Do you think thrice (lets face it, you are already thinking twice as it is) when you drop one of your two big names when you literally have no one to replace him with?
 

Noname36

First Grade
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Hodkinson isn't going to be dropped unless we sign another half.

Of the remaining halves Lamb is the most talented or "ready" and he is struggling.

Our only other options are Cogger and Feeney and they both struggled badly in first grade last year. Not ready at all. I feel that feeding them to the wolves now with the added pressure of feeling they needed to make an impact with Hodkinson dropped wouldn't be in their best interests.

It also certainly wouldn't be in Lamb's, who is already struggling himself without the added pressure of being the more "senior" half. While Hodkinson might do F all to take the pressure off him he doesn't need to be feeling he needs to take pressure off someone else right now.

We have to pay Hodkinson regardless - make him keep going out there while there is no other viable option without killing another couple of kids' confidence - at least until we can hopefully sign a decent half or two.
 

Knight76

Juniors
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Unfortunately we are stuck with him until he is gone. I have no doubt at all Hodkinson won't be renewed. I also have no doubt that the fact we are stuck with him is the reason Brown does not say anything about him in the press conference. Must shit him to tears having to put up with Hodkinson and having his results as coach tied to a half brought in by the previous dimwits running the recruitment.

I was waiting with baited breath for a reporter in the presser to ask him about our interest in Foran. Would have been interesting watching him comment with Hodkinson there lol.
 

Johns Magic

Referee
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15 APR 2017 - 1:50AM
Brown remains confident of Knights marquee

Newcastle coach Nathan Brown is confident of luring a big-name player despite being turned down by Jack Bird and Dale Finucane over the past fortnight.

Newcastle coach Nathan Brown remains confident of landing a big name for next season despite being recently turned down by Cronulla star Jack Bird.

The Knights were believed to be in the box seat to sign the premiership-winning centre last week but were outbid at the last minute by the Broncos.

Their latest recruitment blow comes just two weeks after failing to lure Melbourne forward Dale Finucane to the club, and walking away from talks with injured Kangaroos prop Matt Scott.

However Brown insists he can still convince a high-profile player to fast-track the club's rebuilding stage, and suggested their next target may not even be off-contract this year.

"Just because the player's on contract doesn't really mean a great deal today," Brown said following the Knights' loss to the Sydney Roosters on Friday.

"If (clubs) want to sign someone else, or we might want them and the managers... they control a fair bit of the game today. They actually have a fair bit of influence in the game.

"We'll get our knockbacks along the way because of where we are as a club. That's just part of building, starting from where we are.

"But we're confident we'll certainly enhance the squad a lot for next year."

Brown conceded the 22-year-old Bird, who was likely to be used at five-eighth in the Hunter, was an obvious target because of his attacking ability and versatility.

But the second-year Knights mentor said there are plenty more fish left in the NRL sea.

"The key is finding the right ones for us. Obviously a Jack Bird, he ticks all the boxes. He's obviously got a lot of good years in him still," he said.

"We certainly know the types of players we need, we'll just keep working hard to try and attract them. You just gotta dust yourself off, come back into the market and look at the next one.

"There's plenty of good players on the market, and as I said, there's plenty of clubs that may need to move people to do what they need to do as well."

Brown said the Knights have been left reeling by the drugs suspension of Jarrod Mullen and long-term injuries to new recruits Jamie Buhrer and Rory Kostjasyn.

Kostjasyn, who was brought in from North Queensland as the Knights' No.1 hooker, has yet to play a game this year due to a throat infection that could force him to retire.

"I'd say indefinite is probably the correct one. We're not sure to be honest with you," he said.

"I'm not sure if he'll come back in two weeks or four weeks, or if he'll come back. We're not sure at this stage, it's not positive at this stage.

"We're in a situation where we've got Rory and Jamie, our two most experienced players and the two players that have got any sort of profile that we brought to the club this year.

"Unfortunately Rory hasn't played yet and Jamie's now had what's happened to Jamie, and they're really important for us.

"The Mullo situation - Mullo's our highest paid player and we're still paying him and he can't play, and he plays an important position."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/04/15/brown-remains-confident-knights-marquee
 

stubbs8611

Juniors
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3
Agree with lots said about Hodko already. For mine the reason we have to take drastic measures is that he is not just playing poorly, he's having a seriously negative impact. It's not rocks and diamonds, it's a big pile of rocks constantly. You actually could play a forward in their halves because Hodko doesn't contribute anything anyway.

There is almost no way I can see that any other player could be worse. We need to hit the market so badly. And somehow ship him off.

Honestly he's ruining any enjoyment of games for me now. We can't win with him holding us back.



he just throws the ball out to second row or centre on last tackle to kick it every week.
 

perverse

Referee
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Graham would be so immense for us. I can't bare to get my hopes up. Way more crushing than Bird to miss out on.
 

Pedge1971

First Grade
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5,898
I find it majorly bizarre that the commentators are not calling Hodko out on his major shitness during the game. Infact they go out of their way to praise him on the very rare occasion he does something mediocre to good.

Its like criticising the blokes play is off limits. The coach is in a tough place. I get he should not be bashing the bloke at the presser though I did like him talking up the roosters game mgt vs our last night.

But geez I hope outside the publics view he is calling out the shit he keeps delivering week after week.
 

Knight76

Juniors
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I doubt it Pedge.

There is not a lot of point calling him out in private. We have no-one else to replace him with in the halves so stuck. No point putting the boot in to a player who we can't replace.

We could try structuring our game around that knowledge though. Instead of passing always to lamb right on the line, how about giving it to Barnett. He has shown he can put a kick through, and can also use the short ball to put a player over. He would be a good option on the last to mix it up a bit.
 

perverse

Referee
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We do have halves to replace him with, that's such a nonsense f**king excuse that I'm sick of reading. There is always an option when someone is playing this diabolical - you actually can't go too far wrong because whoever you give an opportunity to can't possibly do worse, or less. Any kid trying to play for a contract is going to put in more effort at the very least. Give Feeney or Pearsall a chance to resurrect their careers, what im seeing at the moment from Hodko is unfair to them to be honest.

Stop making excuses, he has to go. What he is doing out there is pure, refined bullshit.
 

Noname36

First Grade
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If we're being totally honest here Lamb hasn't provided much more. The thing is though the poor kid wasn't even meant to be in first grade - Mullen f**ked him/us over massively - so it's difficult to be too critical of him.

To add to his pressure though by putting him in a position to be the senior half (with one of a selection of kids that haven't been up to it) is just cruel and I think sometimes wanting to see a player punished (Hodkinson) is less important than throwing kids to the wolves at the wrong time.

While Hodkinson is offering zilch on the field, whilever he is there stinking it up he's at least there to deflect criticism from Lamb.
 
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Hardcore_Fan

Juniors
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Lamb is going ok. He has a decent kicking game, has a really long boot on him.

He does however appear to be very slow with terrible footwork from what I have seen. You can train for this to a degree, but agility generally comes down to ability, you either have it or you don't.
 

Johns Magic

Referee
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21,654
Lamb has done fine. I'm not sure what his talent level really is but he's a young kid having a crack and at least doing some good things. If he was playing with a senior half who was taking the main role we'd be happy with what he is doing I think.

You can't expect him to be the man so young and so inexperienced. He is doing a decent job as the sidekick IMO. I hope in time he can develop into a dominant half but even if he doesn't he is playing above his pay grade.

I don't think he has ever played senior football outside NRL. Straight from NYC to NRL. He could still be playing NYC.

His defence is sub-par at the moment for sure but he is putting his body on the line at least so I can give him a pass for now.
 

Johns Magic

Referee
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He does however appear to be very slow with terrible footwork from what I have seen. You can train for this to a degree, but agility generally comes down to ability, you either have it or you don't.

This I can agree with actually. It's a concern. Hopefully the other areas of his game develop enough to compensate for it which it sounds like at junior level they comfortably did.
 

Johns Magic

Referee
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One name I don't think has been thrown up is Connor Watson.

He is a half with great spark, fearless, a Central Coast junior, and a Knights fan growing up.

No, Watson remains that fella who grew up idolising workaholic Knight Kurt Gidley.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...r/news-story/986b696dbc9f5678be570555f204d65a

MVP of the Auckland 9s this year.

Stuck behind Pearce and Keary who I don't see going anywhere.

He would be an outstanding pickup for us. Imagine his energy in the halves instead of Hodkinson.

He is under contract until the end of 2018 but if there was a player it makes sense to pick up as part of a rebuild it's him. Pair him with a senior half and it would be magic, and I can't see him costing a motza.


Plenty of good highlights in there but could you ever imagine Hodkinson putting on the footwork at 50 seconds in?
 

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