Rumoured targets thread

[Serc]

(Sorry - offtopic here)

I the negotiation business disclosing your budget is a very big no no. For example when buying your house a real estate agent will often ask what your preapproved finances are (or your maximum budget) and despite their suggestions it is not to help them help you.

Why do you think they ask for it then? Agents won't want to waste their or your time showing you through a $480k house when your price range is $400-420, with an absolute limit of $430.

I know the agent is working for the seller (and of course for themselves), but in order to produce results for both parties they need to get the right people looking at the right houses.

(however I should say that yes, in other sorts of negotiations, it is a mistake to give the other party an idea of your budget)

 

[RABK]

Last day of the cooling off period i said i wanted out and was happy to lose my deposit. Agent and seller went mad trying to negotiate with me before the 5pm deadline. I knocked 18k of my house a few hours before it officially became mine. Once a seller or agent can smell a cheque they are vunerable. You off course have to make sure your hearts only set on the property for your planned re-negotiated price in case they call your bluff.

Off topic indeed.

 

[Serc]

haha, nice one there, bit of a risk as you say, but nice that it paid off.

Myles joins Snowden on Knights' list
Robert Dillon
May 5, 2011

TINKLER Sports Group executive chairman Ken Edwards says Newcastle's interest in Roosters enforcer Nate Myles does not mean they have given up on signing Sharks Test prop Kade Snowden.
Edwards met Myles, who has also been courted by Gold Coast and Parramatta, and his agent in Sydney yesterday.
Myles is contracted to the Roosters for next season but it is believed he would be allowed to leave Bondi Junction if he could gain a long-term deal with a rival club.
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Edwards said he had held preliminary discussions with Myles on the recommendation of incoming coach Wayne Bennett.
''Obviously we know that he's available from next year and we wanted to have a chat,'' Edwards said. ''There was no offer, we were simply talking to him about what he was looking for in his next move. We'll think it over for the next week or so.
''We're in the process of working through a whole range of options.''
One of those options is Snowden, who has been linked with Newcastle since Nathan Tinkler contacted him three months ago and persuaded him not to re-sign with the Sharks.
It appeared certain Snowden would return to his home-town club once Tinkler's privatisation bid was approved but the Sharks have since responded with a better deal.
Edwards said negotiations with Snowden had been put on hold to allow him to concentrate on making his Test debut tomorrow night. But he would not rule out the possibility of bolstering Newcastle's pack with both Snowden and Myles next season.
''That's hypothetical, it would depend on what each of them would agree to and how much of that we could fit under the cap,'' Edwards said. ''You'd have to say it would certainly be difficult, but not impossible, to have them both at Newcastle.
''Whether that is both next year, or staggered, is another issue.''
Dragons fullback Darius Boyd is the other target on Newcastle's hit list. ''We're still talking to him,'' Edwards said.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nights-list-20110504-1e8kr.html#ixzz1LOd6uJnL

 

[RABK]

Basically i was wrong perverse, they did meet to basically say 'wazzz up?'

So what i see is their cash has been seperated with a chunk for boyd and a chunk for snowden and we are trying to have enough left from those two chunks to create a third for Myles.

 

[aqua_duck]

A pack with Myles, Snowden, Costigan, Houston, and hopefully Zeb is a 10000000% improvement on our current pack.
I'd imagine the bench will include Faas, Tui, Hilder and possibly Pato. Would definitely be curtains for AK and Tolar

 

[Allstar Knights]

If we snared Snowden, Boyd and Myles, I would have massive expectation for us to win the comp. I'd nearly be disappointed in any less then a top 4 finish each year.

 

[aqua_duck]

If we snared those 3, and have abit more luck with injuries I think top 4 would be a minimum

 

[Newie is God's Country]

Anyone else think Pato will be offloaded to accomodate Myles? With all his talk of boxing and a clear lack of dedication to his game this season it would be fine by me. His commitment is highly questionable. His talent is not. For that reason I would be sad to see him go but i disagree when people rate him above House as a talent.

 

[Newie is God's Country]

A pack with Myles, Snowden, Costigan, Houston, and hopefully Zeb is a 10000000% improvement on our current pack.
I'd imagine the bench will include Faas, Tui, Hilder and possibly Pato. Would definitely be curtains for AK and Tolar

Add De Gois and you have a pack to rival anyone on any given day.

 

[aqua_duck]

On pure talent alone i think Pato is above House but Pato doesn't apply it nearly often enough. I wouldn't mind if he did a SBW on us if he's going to play the way he has been playing

 

[RHCP]

House's heart > Pato's 'potential'

 

[aqua_duck]

Add De Gois and you have a pack to rival anyone on any given day.

Add in the Wayne Bennett factor, and I'd go as far as to say the pack might actually be a strength for us

House's heart > Pato's 'potential'

Agree 110%

 

[Alex28]

On pure talent alone i think Pato is above House but Pato doesn't apply it nearly often enough. I wouldn't mind if he did a SBW on us if he's going to play the way he has been playing

In all honesty I don't think that Pato has played a better game than House at all this year. I think House is probably more talented and dedicated than Pato.

Have no issues in offloading him. Problem is he is under contract and I can't see any other club taking him on at his current contract given how inconsistent he is and his well noted mental issues.

 

[Jono078]

Actually guys, I was watching a game yesterday, Joey's last game, 2007 in Canberra.

it was Pato's 1st run on start. You coul tell in the pre-game in the sheds how pumped up he was. Then every run he made was hard he wound up then kept the legs driving. He had a try assists very early on with a sweet tap on pass.

He is more talented than Houston. But simply after watching that game I think it's clear his passion and determination isn't there any more or not as much as it use to be.

2007 was the year he showed his attacking flair, 2008 was the monsterous defense. Since then it's been average and going through the motions.

Either way I'm hoping when Wayne comes he can bring old Pato back. Although I think it's unlikely.

 

[sneaky_is_here]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8nRIR3Fr4

3:04 that freakish pass he did. Maybe WB can help him , but i don't understand what got him disinterested so quickly.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

Anyone else think Pato will be offloaded to accomodate Myles? With all his talk of boxing and a clear lack of dedication to his game this season it would be fine by me. His commitment is highly questionable. His talent is not. For that reason I would be sad to see him go but i disagree when people rate him above House as a talent.

I'd have zero problems with him leaving, maybe Bennett can turn him around but I honestly doubt it.

 

[Rolla]

(Sorry - offtopic here)



Why do you think they ask for it then? Agents won't want to waste their or your time showing you through a $480k house when your price range is $400-420, with an absolute limit of $430.

I know the agent is working for the seller (and of course for themselves), but in order to produce results for both parties they need to get the right people looking at the right houses.

(however I should say that yes, in other sorts of negotiations, it is a mistake to give the other party an idea of your budget)

It is in their interests to get the largest sale possible, (think commission) and of course get the sale over the line.

Through university courses, first hand experience and a lot of property investment literature i can assure you it is quite relevant in the property game. Probably in any sales negotiation really.... You tell a shoe salesmen you want to spend between 100 and 250 dollars on footy boots, which ones do you think they will show you?

 

[cram]

Anyone else think Pato will be offloaded to accomodate Myles? With all his talk of boxing and a clear lack of dedication to his game this season it would be fine by me. His commitment is highly questionable. His talent is not. For that reason I would be sad to see him go but i disagree when people rate him above House as a talent.

I am not sure that Pato will be offloaded for next season. From a purely football sense it may be considered but it would be PR (k)nightmare for TSG if they unload local talent for outside talent.

I imagine the out of town off contract talent beign discarded in the first instance.

 

[Yosh]

Surely the depression thing has had an affect on him? But jeez on his day Patto makes House look like Tanner...

 

[Serc]

It is in their interests to get the largest sale possible, (think commission) and of course get the sale over the line.

Through university courses, first hand experience and a lot of property investment literature i can assure you it is quite relevant in the property game. Probably in any sales negotiation really.... You tell a shoe salesmen you want to spend between 100 and 250 dollars on footy boots, which ones do you think they will show you?

Oh yes it is very relevant (didn't mean to suggest that it wasn't) but houses are harder to value for each potential buyer than pairs of shoes. Each group of people being shown through a house may value the presence of different features differently (3 instead of 4 bedrooms, pool or no pool, etc etc). Also, rarely will people spend less than say 30-50k below their stated limit when it comes to houses, which is only 10-15% below. I guess thats a good thing for an agent in terms of maximising their commission as they don't need to worry about people not spending as high as they can.

Anyway enough of the offtopic I think you certainly seem to be pretty well informed on it all anyway but I had to pipe up! (no qualifications or study here, just working on and off in real estate offices since 2001)