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yy_cheng

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Problem is they are focusing on a position that is filled by one of the nest players in the comp and our leader. If they were to ever move him from fullback they may as well let him go. For his ability in any other position is not worth anywhere near the $800K+ that he would be on now. As a centre or 5/8th his worth would be closer to $400K at best. He is an out and out fullback and a damn fine one at that.

As for him not being at his best at times during the season, I have said this many times before. Never judge backs in particular when teams aren't playing well. If you know a player is quality but is being shown up in a team that is playing badly, then you can ignore that bad form more or less. Put it this way, stick Edwards at fullback for Parra this year, do you think he would have been faultless? When a team is being exposed then the brunt of the attack comes down to the one on one players and where there is less traffic because the opposition has worked over the ruck and is now playing with width and speed that has the wider fringe players and fullback included back peddling and second guessing.

Like I said before, Gutho and fullback is not our problem. We should be focusing on wingers and centres and our RR is stupid for even entertaining the idea or replacing or moving Gutho, when it is so bleeding obvious that we need centres and wingers and both are much cheaper and easier to fill, but they have made it look like we are trying to sign the ghost of Reg Gasnier FFS!

They have had at least two seasons to sort this mess out and yet we still have nothing. What a disgrace. Pathetic actually and they should all be replaced if we were fair dinkum.
From the rumours that are thrown around, I reckon we are trying to get a centre/winger but we can't seem to get them to take the bait. Maybe how we improved Waqa scared players off.
 

The Colonel

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and Xerri?

it would be interesting to see 3 players in the NRL who have not played the game at any level for about 3 years +...it goes to show the lack of depth this game has and the NRL want to add more teams to the comp...

Xerri has been stupid and taken drugs. Doesn't exactly look like he has only used them "once" per his excuse but he will face a lot of regular scrutiny from WADA/drug testing I guess. He has done his time and has been allowed back in to the NRL. I would be fine with Jennings coming back having served time for doping. I disagree we should be allowing players who have existing convictions for domestic violence being allowed back into the NRL.
 

Soren Lorenson

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Xerri has been stupid and taken drugs. Doesn't exactly look like he has only used them "once" per his excuse but he will face a lot of regular scrutiny from WADA/drug testing I guess. He has done his time and has been allowed back in to the NRL. I would be fine with Jennings coming back having served time for doping. I disagree we should be allowing players who have existing convictions for domestic violence being allowed back into the NRL.
Well, it’s not exactly black and white with Jennings though
 

emjaycee

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Pou logic to the fore.

Mate, I didn't say they were completely blind to his talent, but they just didn't value it as high as they should have as nor did our Recruitment and Retention committee either. When you can't fit a guy like Hammer in your starting 13 either at wing, centre or fullback permanently and keep him happy so he isn't sitting on the bench and playing cameo roles in games, you have totally dropped the spot the talent ball. As for how much he would have cost, mate he would have been on no more then $400K and for the player he is that is way unders. They could have can a couple of lesser lights if they had to to keep him there. It wasn't about money when he moved, it was about getting a spot in the starting team permanently. Period!

My biggest disappointment is that we didn't get in way earlier, like back in 2021 or early 2022 and serenade him with love songs from the land of the Blue and Gold. We could have picked up one of the best outside backs that would have been quite happy back then to play centre on a permanent basis for jam. But now that the Dolphins have him and played him at fullback any other club has Buckley's in prizing him away.

But well that's the way our club rolls. Almost always that little bit to late to the party and then complains there is no available talent around to fill our weak spots. But how come I and some other knowledgeable posters like Hindy are always pointing out talent that is under valued before they become stars or household names? And I don't even watch games like I used to. Imagine if I was paid to spot talent and had all the resources these lemons cruds do. Our Club would be bulging at the seams with so much potential and talent it would make the Panthers look like the Tigers on a bad day.

Your excuses are on a conveyor belt that never stops. But I get it, bullsh*t make the world go round. So keep on pooing Pou, it's what you do. Cheers
Serious question mate... when you and Hindy point out the obvious, do you really think that no one in our club also sees it and do you know for a fact that we made no approach to the player(s) concerned or is that just your assumption based on the fact they didn't sign with us or that the contact wasn't held in Tingha Palace?
 

hindy111

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Serious question mate... when you and Hindy point out the obvious, do you really think that no one in our club also sees it and do you know for a fact that we made no approach to the player(s) concerned or is that just your assumption based on the fact they didn't sign with us or that the contact wasn't held in Tingha Palace?

What do you reckon Joe O costs? Do you think he was a smart signing?
 

emjaycee

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Although its tough to swallow I guess its why Our Eels have forgone the chase for expensive imports and focused on juniors both internally and externally. More pain before the benefits are forthcoming. This plan needs not only good juniors but our ability to bring them through as NRL capable. Im annoyed that Cayless appears to be one of those mentors however the club has promoted Brennan to run interference in the 2s so thats a positive. His work in the Flegg etc looked promising. Rankin also has massive experience and may be a dark horse for higher coaching honours.
We obviously need to ensure we have great scouts, top recruitment people/ mechanisms and a culture that works in our favour to retain our best kids. We need to play a style of footy that provides opportunities for all positions and we need to be ruthless with senior players who are costing a bomb once they arent performing to their pay cheque. Hopefully we have or are putting these requirements in place. Fingers crossed.
I dont expect much in 2024 but am hopefull it is a turning point year that promises future success.
On what basis are you annoyed about Cayless being an assistant coach or seconds coach mate?
He has been developing a professional coaching career since retiring, with stints at Wenty, Warriors, Roosters and Tigers before coming back here. What else is expected of an ex-player who moves into coaching? Instant Head Coach role in the NRL and a premiership within 2 years?
 

hineyrulz

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Serious question mate... when you and Hindy point out the obvious, do you really think that no one in our club also sees it and do you know for a fact that we made no approach to the player(s) concerned or is that just your assumption based on the fact they didn't sign with us or that the contact wasn't held in Tingha Palace?
Well no one at the club has been able to fix our laughable edge defence for how long??

Blind Freddy can see we have a massive shortage in our outside backs. We lose Waga and replace him with Morgan f**ken Harper. And they are happy with that?? With the top 30 sorted it looks that way Can you blame him for having no confidence in the people running the show??
 

emjaycee

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What do you reckon Joe O costs? Do you think he was a smart signing?
I have no idea what he costs mate and I won't be judging him as a smart signing or otherwise until he gets through a pre-season and we see what his role is in 2024 and how he goes.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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On what basis are you annoyed about Cayless being an assistant coach or seconds coach mate?
He has been developing a professional coaching career since retiring, with stints at Wenty, Warriors, Roosters and Tigers before coming back here. What else is expected of an ex-player who moves into coaching? Instant Head Coach role in the NRL and a premiership within 2 years?
Success dosent follow him and hes had more jobs than hot dinners. Does he leave or is he moved on? My opinion of him soured dramatically watching our NSW Cup team this season. Simply put they were some of the worst performances Ive ever witnessed from an Eels team regardless of who was in the side.
Do you rate him and honest question, if so why?
 

emjaycee

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Success dosent follow him and hes had more jobs than hot dinners. Does he leave or is he moved on? My opinion of him soured dramatically watching our NSW Cup team this season. Simply put they were some of the worst performances Ive ever witnessed from an Eels team regardless of who was in the side.
Do you rate him and honest question, if so why?
TBH I havent paid enough attention to his coaching career to give you an honest answer, but I am just interested in why so many posters on here (yes, you included) always seem to try and find something negative to say.
 

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