Sack Adam O'Brien

[slotmachine]

He really really needs a response from the players next week.

Not happening, they're not listening

 

[PhilGould]

From the presser, he "knows what's needed to be a winning team but it's going to take time". 3 years not enough time to implement any sort of identity in attack or defence apparently. That's a response from a coach who knows he's in trouble.

 

[Johns Magic]

Did anyone watch his presser? I feel like I believe him but I feel like a sucker for doing so.

Basically he justified his position saying he was involved in 4 grand finals so he knows how teams and clubs prepare and he says we do train well but for some reason what we do is yet to be ingrained in us.

Yes I watched the presser. I feel sorry for AOB and I’m sure he works hard. But he does know how to talk drivel. I can see why he won over Gardner.

What he keeps saying about needing to get bad habits out of the team, and waiting for the lightbulb moment where things become “ingrained”…anyone listening to that needs to take a step back and realise - we have gone dramatically backwards the last three years, and it’s accelerating. Things weren’t bad when he got the keys to the club.

Sorry but we need a fresh start.

 

[slotmachine]

Most pleasing thing was that he doesn't give a presser like that if he isn't under pressure

 

[macavity]

Next coach?

please not Paul Green.

 

[Spot On]

Flanno by the length of the straight for this rabble and playing group.

 

[NoSchitSherlock]

Just read we've lost 13 of our last 15.

Nothing like added salt to the wound.

Did anyone watch his presser? I feel like I believe him but I feel like a sucker for doing so.

Basically he justified his position saying he was involved in 4 grand finals so he knows how teams and clubs prepare and he says we do train well but for some reason what we do is yet to be ingrained in us.

What do we do in training that looks good because I can't tell you anything that stands out on game day.

Decoys, structures, lines ran, change of direction, second-phase etc..

He really really needs a response from the players next week.

He looks and sounds totally lost to me.
We've heard for years about training well and not converting that to the game. It stumped Bennett too.
This bit about not getting a different part of defence right each game stumps me. For sure we don't but an earlier criticism was defence was good and we need to focus on attack. Then we fell apart again.

 

[Jono078]

It's a tough back and forth for me. I feel he's saying the right things and it makes sense, but as JM said, we've gone backward year-on-year with him and we're at an extremely low point now.

The club needs to make a decision soon. Give this guy a chance in 2023 with no excuses or risk that season going belly-up and causing more chaos for the club.

 

[slotmachine]

Flanno by the length of the straight for this rabble and playing group.

How come no other club wants him...?

 

[NoSchitSherlock]

I'm still not sure a new coach can fix things unless that coach has enough clout to shake up and control other things more than O'Brien currently does. His role seems to be the 'end job' after the rest is put in place.
Parr might shake it up and help him along.
I'm definitely not against O'Brien going since we need some sort of change. Just hoping Parr might bring that.

 

[Alex28]

Flanno by the length of the straight for this rabble and playing group.

So salary cap cheating and a systemic drug program?

Flanagan has done nothing of note that hasn’t involved cheating in some form. How do people not see that?

 

[Jono078]

We keep moving the goal posts for AOB and that's a problem.

We got rid of Brown so the next guy to take us to the next level.

YES AOB got us to the finals but man we looked pretty ordinary getting there. The following year was even worse with all our spine injuries and an ageing Mitch Pearce.

Then you have this year which has been a total mess since April.

He decided to hold onto the likes of Mann, Fitzgibbon and reward their average play. We let Pearce go without getting a replacement. He's failed to bring in rookies in one position to learn their craft. His bench usage is highly questionable. Above all that, we've never looked like a cohesive football team, outside of round 1 this year which looking back was an absolute alignment of the stars for us.

When you compare like for like, AOB has it way better than Brownie did yet we find ourselves going backwards at the rate of knots. Something has to give.

 

[Johns Magic]

So salary cap cheating and a systemic drug program?

Flanagan has done nothing of note that hasn’t involved cheating in some form. How do people not see that?

Flanagan has some dirt on him but I don’t think 2016 is tainted like you’re saying. The cap cheating was in 2017, and the peptide issue was history by then.

Flanagan recruited very well and was able to land big name signings - Lewis, Maloney, Ennis etc.

His senior players really seemed to buy in. He had a lot of big egos in that team to manage, and he got them performing for him.

On the negative side, I think he was also responsible for signing some highly paid duds towards the end - Dugan, Johnson, Moylan, Woods.

I’d like to think Flanagan is the guy to crack whips on players like the Saifitis and get them performing as they should.

 

[macavity]

Can’t think of any retread who would excite me.

Maybe we look to England.

Steve McNamara maybe.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Flanno by the length of the straight for this rabble and playing group.

Does that mean you get his son as well? Pay full freight? He is probably better than any halves you currently have.

 

[Spot On]

Does that mean you get his son as well? Pay full freight? He is probably better than any halves you currently have.

We would take anything... and we usually do.

 

[Jono078]

Maybe Stephen Kearney? He's probably been involved with 5 grand finals and knows what a good team does.

 

[Spot On]

So salary cap cheating and a systemic drug program?

Flanagan has done nothing of note that hasn’t involved cheating in some form. How do people not see that?

Has won something we haven't been able to get near for 20+ yrs. We're lucky to beat the opposition to arrive at the ground, let alone a handful of games. Our club has been a failure for 2 decades.

I don't give a shit what he does to get us to win or which clubs have thumbed their noses at him, his attitude towards winning is everything we don't have and haven't had for eons.

He had to manage quite a few players who would have been very difficult to coach and won a comp with them. He'd put a nuke up our blokes and at least have them compete physically.

 

[Haffa]

So salary cap cheating and a systemic drug program?

Flanagan has done nothing of note that hasn’t involved cheating in some form. How do people not see that?

Sign me up for a winning football team.

 

[aqua_duck]

When a bloke needs to start rattling off his resume you know he's feeling the pinch.
I don't care how well they train, the issue is game plan, there was a very clear but ill thought out directive over the past few seasons to play through the forwards and it was obviously hammered into the team, that to me is as much ingrained as any of the bad habits.