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I agree with jake i reckon they are blaming the previous bunch of uselessmerkins.

Just like those merkins blamed the previous merkins before them.

And if Fitzy hadnt been in power for 6 million years he probqbly would have blamed the merkins before him

Thank you!!

Someone, Just just take some responsibility, ownership. Instead of excuses give us solutions. Don't wait for the NRL to come in and threaten points - get busy and and actually reform, Show real leadership. But nothing like that happened and now we have the NRL digging around because of poor governance and other stuff.

It's time we get some respectable people / professionals on board.
 

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Thank you!!

Someone, Just just take some responsibility, ownership. Instead of excuses give us solutions. Don't wait for the NRL to come in and threaten points - get busy and and actually reform, Show real leadership. But nothing like that happened and now we have the NRL digging around because of poor governance and other stuff.

It's time we get some respectable people / professionals on board.

You're saying you want us to stop offering third party deals to players? And you'd be happy with the sort of team we could field if that was the case?
 

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How are they new issues? This is clearly about 2014.

Isn't one of the issues about TPA's to Watmough? Surely that is about 2015/16?

Unless they had organised TPA's for him to play at Manly in 2014? I don't think even our board is that stupid...
 
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You're saying you want us to stop offering third party deals to players? And you'd be happy with the sort of team we could field if that was the case?

I usually don't respond to you because you are pretty deluded and because you're a thread killer. But I was just wondering how on earth you came to that conclusion from what I wrote???
 

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You are very welcome to your opinion as well.
Just saying.
But Jakes opinion is an agenda, and yours isn't?
Ok then.
Well that is indeed my opinion, as previously/already stated.

I'm hardly crying out for any particular action, repeatedly, like a broken record. So hard to classify my opinion regarding Jake's agenda, as an agenda, imo.

Just saying ;-).
 

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Dude you totally got me. You are too smart. You have just figured out that I want Sharp To resign? clap.................. clap................clap................... Obviously you're not a brain surgeon. please bring back Bart he seemed a little faster than you. actually he was just a tad faster than a genius that is.
Stay classy Jake.
 
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We can debate that by saying that Ricky Stuart cut the players with the authorisation from the current board which was Led by Sharp. Remember the over head projector where 11 players were told they were not wanted. We paid other players to play at other clubs and it was approved by Sharp. That's what stuffed our cap up, sharp then promised that 2015,2016 would be sweet and that Parra would never again pay a player to play for an opposition team.
 

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Isn't one of the issues about TPA's to Watmough? Surely that is about 2015/16?

Unless they had organised TPA's for him to play at Manly in 2014? I don't think even our board is that stupid...
Playing contracts end and start in October/November, don't they? So Watmough's 2015 Eels contract terms were agreed to at some point in 2014. The Club has moved through a lot of staff since then, may of the staff having been appointed under a previous Board regime.

Hence the NRL's comment at the time of announcing the salary cap breach, that problems were largely down to prevous administrations.

There's not much new that's come to light here... aren't the leaked (exceprts of) Board Minutes also from early 2014, attempting to deal with problems already in place at that time?
 

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I find it... intriguing that everyone wanted to give Spags and his crew "time" to fix the problems that the previous administration supposedly left, and that one election cycle wasn't enough and they couldn't be held to blame etc etc.

Seems attention spans are getting shorter over the years, certain posters have become much more impatient with a new administration earlier in the piece this time, and their earlier statements about allowing enough time to correct the previous lot's problems suddenly do not apply now (due purely to destabilising media hysteria)?
 

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I usually don't respond to you because you are pretty deluded and because you're a thread killer.

That's because I stomp on your bullshit and leave you with nothing.

But I was just wondering how on earth you came to that conclusion from what I wrote???

Because you seem to think that what is wrong with the club is THIRD PARTY PAYMENTS!!!! :crazy:
 
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We can debate that by saying that Ricky Stuart cut the players with the authorisation from the current board which was Led by Sharp. Remember the over head projector where 11 players were told they were not wanted. We paid other players to play at other clubs and it was approved by Sharp. That's what stuffed our cap up, sharp then promised that 2015,2016 would be sweet and that Parra would never again pay a player to play for an opposition team.

Show me where we are, at the moment. Yes he was in for a few weeks when "The Projector" happened, and don't get me wrong something needed to happen to get rid of the funk that had surrounded the club since Steven Kearney was given the keys to the castle.

I know we suffered that year, and were then stabbed in the back by Ricky, but from that moment on we have marched forward.

Are these minutes accurate? The CEO and the Chairman have said they aren't if they turn out to be inacurrate or the extract misleading, what will we know, that the mole in the club is willing to go to great lengths to drag it's name through the mud for personal reasons.

Should we be concerned, I don't know, I haven't seen the evidence first hand, but if we are cleared of this, then there will be some bigger issues to face than the NRL investigating the club. People in privileged positions at this club, or previous privileged positions at this club are not putting the club first. Calling for the sacking of any member of staff of board without having all the information is risky and can open the club up to further issue.

Do I feel warm and Fuzzy every morning when I wake up and hear Emma Duxbury on the Big Sports breakfast read another Telegraph article basically verbatim as the lead or second story, f**k no I hate it, but I hope we are nearing the end of this pain, and in the end these issues will help strengthen up club as a whole instead of weakening it.
 

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Parramatta paid a clothing provider at least $80,000 for goods the club has no record of receiving as officials investigate whether players - including former forward Daniel Harrison - were beneficiaries of the arrangement.
Fairfax Media can reveal invoices were paid to Zibara for promotional clothing for the Eels' 2014 study tour to Seattle, as well as game-day merchandise. However, the club has no record of the goods being received from the menswear outlet.
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More drama: Eels players say they keep their focus on football and not off-field dramas. Photo: Getty Images

Leba Zibara of Zibara Clothing was part of an Eels delegation that visited a number of major sporting and business organisations including then-NFL champions Seattle Seahawks. The club invoiced Zibara an amount of around $13,000 but the club refused to confirm whether a payment was recorded.
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The NRL was already concerned that Zibara was one of several companies providing goods or services to Parramatta at highly inflated fees that were above the market rate. Investigators are now trying to determine where the money went and whether players or officials pocketed some of the takings.
Fairfax Media has been told former player Harrison was paid about $15,000 as a sweetener to prematurely end his association with the club. Harrison was recruited from Manly for the 2013 season on a two-year deal and played seven games for the blue and golds that year. However, he returned for a second stint with the Sea Eagles the following season despite having a year to run on his Parramatta deal. There is no suggestion of wrongdoing by Harrison.
"The club is working closely with the NRL and will include these matters as part of the internal investigation," a Parramatta Eels spokesperson said.
Leba Zibara did not respond to calls on Tuesday.
Other companies that have been paid "overs" for their services include Green Options and Egroup Security.
There is no suggestion the companies have acted improperly, but the NRL is looking into why they were paid exorbitant fees.
"Any information which arises during the investigation period will be looked at by the integrity unit," an NRL spokesperson said.
The latest dramas are part of a seemingly endless string of catastrophes Parramatta's board and administration have brought upon the western franchise. The club is in serious danger of being sanctioned over a series of transgressions, most notably a third-party arrangement for Anthony Watmough that was not properly disclosed to head office. The club is facing the prospect of losing competition points, large fines and the sacking of staffers if it can be proven they breached the salary cap.
The pressure is mounting on chairman Steve Sharp and his deputy, Tom Issa, to stand down. However, it is understood the pair have no intention of doing so, raising the prospect of members passing a no-confidence or spill motion at the upcoming annual general meeting.
Eels players were trying their best to not get distracted by the constant off-field dramas ahead of their blockbuster clash with Canterbury at ANZ Stadium on Friday night.
"We don't talk about that stuff, honestly it's been fine," said hooker Isaac De Gois. "We're boys, we just talk about footy. The stuff in the papers, it's not our concern, our concern is to play footy and win games."
Fellow hooker Kaysa Pritchard added: "We just worry about ourselves, whatever happens on that side of the footy club [isn't our concern]. We just come to training and turn up, the boys have been pretty good."


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I find it... intriguing that everyone wanted to give Spags and his crew "time" to fix the problems that the previous administration supposedly left, and that one election cycle wasn't enough and they couldn't be held to blame etc etc.

Seems attention spans are getting shorter over the years, certain posters have become much more impatient with a new administration earlier in the piece this time, and their earlier statements about allowing enough time to correct the previous lot's problems suddenly do not apply now (due purely to destabilising media hysteria)?

How much time is enough? They've had 4 years. Let's give them another decade hey :sarcasm:
 
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Show me where we are, at the moment. Yes he was in for a few weeks when "The Projector" happened, and don't get me wrong something needed to happen to get rid of the funk that had surrounded the club since Steven Kearney was given the keys to the castle.

I know we suffered that year, and were then stabbed in the back by Ricky, but from that moment on we have marched forward.

Are these minutes accurate? The CEO and the Chairman have said they aren't if they turn out to be inacurrate or the extract misleading, what will we know, that the mole in the club is willing to go to great lengths to drag it's name through the mud for personal reasons.

Should we be concerned, I don't know, I haven't seen the evidence first hand, but if we are cleared of this, then there will be some bigger issues to face than the NRL investigating the club. People in privileged positions at this club, or previous privileged positions at this club are not putting the club first. Calling for the sacking of any member of staff of board without having all the information is risky and can open the club up to further issue.

Do I feel warm and Fuzzy every morning when I wake up and hear Emma Duxbury on the Big Sports breakfast read another Telegraph article basically verbatim as the lead or second story, f**k no I hate it, but I hope we are nearing the end of this pain, and in the end these issues will help strengthen up club as a whole instead of weakening it.

What's the solution MITS? I've said kick these amateurs out and put an independent board. Nobody wants to see the club dragged through the mud. And we wouldn't be dragged through the mud if we were run professionally.
 

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Parramatta paid a clothing provider at least $80,000 for goods the club has no record of receiving as officials investigate whether players - including former forward Daniel Harrison - were beneficiaries of the arrangement.
Looks like the noose could be allegedly tightening around some of those companies that got "involved" with the Eels, during the 3P reign?

Don't forget 3P held onto control of (and allegedly ran into the ground) the Footy Club Board, for longer than they were represented on the Leagues Club Board...
 

phantom eel

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What's the solution MITS? I've said kick these amateurs out and put an independent board. Nobody wants to see the club dragged through the mud. And we wouldn't be dragged through the mud if we were run professionally.
A possible alternate solution is stop believeing (and repeating) the Telegraph agenda, and have the patience to let the NRL and current Board continue to work through the issues (and identify the real culprits) in good faith?
 
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