Souths Duty of Care

[redandgreenduck]

for now....


it's 15-20 years down the track that is the bigger concern...

It hit you a bit sooner

 

[alien]

They don't send them off but they're still accountable to the judiciary.

But yeah 'balance disturbance' is pretty commonplace in a game of footy.

It will be interesting to see how this is all applied.

but if it's a grand final, they wont care if a player gets suspended after the game, and in any other game, they could get one of their lesser players to take the fall

 

[ram raid]

True.

 

[muzby]

It hit you a bit sooner

come on man, if I'm going to cause you so much butthurt that you feel the need to reference me in your location, the post and your signature, at least do a guy the favour of doing the sig quote correctly...

(hint, put '[/QUOTE]' at the end of it..)

 

[bottle]

You're in his nightmares muz. Well in.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

come on man, if I'm going to cause you so much butthurt that you feel the need to reference me in your location, the post and your signature, at least do a guy the favour of doing the sig quote correctly...

(hint, put 'QUOTE]' at the end of it..)

All you need now is an allegation of stalking and ridiculous YouTube video 'evidence' to complete the set.

 

[alien]

All you need now is an allegation of stalking and ridiculous YouTube video 'evidence' to complete the set.

after thinking about it more, i believe you when you say it wasn't you that left that death threat on my voice mail, because even though you are annoying at times, you don't seem like the type of person who would make a death threat (although you can't always tell on the internet), and it didn't sound like a prank, although I thought it was amusing at the time that someone would leave me such a message. as far as you not being a stalker, you stalk me all the time on league unlimited! :lol:

 

[muzby]

it's not stalking if I'm going to marry him..

 

[Pete Cash]

Interestingly an NFL player retired at the age of 24 over concussion concerns. I can't have too much of a pop at Souths for bending the rules as much as they can. The Raiders are honestly f**ked if Josh Miller decides to take legal action against the club. They utterly failed him in their duty of care. He will deadset be lucky to count to 2 in his old age.

The thing with concussions is they don't get any easier as players age. Miller used to get concussed if a particularly harsh gust of wind blew in his direction at the end. ex Professional wrestler Mick Foley can't ride wooden rollercoasters without risking a concussion.

The concern with trotting out players after a bit of dodgy medical examination is that it will simply get worse for that player. Having a concussion at all is a very serious medical condition. nevermind racking them up. We certainly don't want an ex rugby league player flipping out and doing something idiotic and his autopsy revealing he has a walnut sized brain from years of headknocks.

 

[ram raid]

Richie Fa'aoso was getting that way too.

 

[alien]

ex Professional wrestler Mick Foley can't ride wooden rollercoasters without risking a concussion.

We certainly don't want an ex rugby league player flipping out and doing something idiotic and his autopsy revealing he has a walnut sized brain from years of headknocks.

sad about foley, but i am not surprised

i wonder if that's what happened to benoit

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

it's not stalking if I'm going to marry him..

What's the theme for the reception? And please, no pepper shakers on my table.

 

[Card Shark]

They don't send them off but they're still accountable to the judiciary.

But yeah 'balance disturbance' is pretty commonplace in a game of footy.

It will be interesting to see how this is all applied.

Like every rule change, coaches will work out how to best exploit it, even to the detriment of their own players.

Some clubs will get away with it (like the Rabbits have), some won't. Inconsistency will raise its ugly head again.

 

[The Charlatan]

sad about foley, but i am not surprised

i wonder if that's what happened to benoit

Chris Nowinski (sp?) and a leading neurosurgeon had a look at Benoit's brain and found damage consistent with a 85 year old suffering from Alzheimers.

Taking chair shots to the head all those years and diving headbutts probably had a great deal to do with it.

If repeated concussions and ensuing CTE is responsible for these behavioural problems, how long until we see older players starting to develop severe depressive behaviours, or in the extreme case, murders/suicides such in the case of Chris Benoit?

 

[Danish]

Chris Nowinski (sp?) and a leading neurosurgeon had a look at Benoit's brain and found damage consistent with a 85 year old suffering from Alzheimers.

Taking chair shots to the head all those years and diving headbutts probably had a great deal to do with it.

If repeated concussions and ensuing CTE is responsible for these behavioural problems, how long until we see older players starting to develop severe depressive behaviours, or in the extreme case, murders/suicides such in the case of Chris Benoit?

Shouldn't we already have been seeing it?

League has been going on for over 100 years, and had a hell of a lot more people getting belted in the head in the 70s and 80s than it does now.

 

[The Charlatan]

Shouldn't we already have been seeing it?

League has been going on for over 100 years, and had a hell of a lot more people getting belted in the head in the 70s and 80s than it does now.

We probably are, and no one is reporting on it.

Going out and necking yourself and taking out someone else is as I said, an extreme example.

Past players have committed suicide, wonder how many of those were as a result of this?

 

[muzby]

Shouldn't we already have been seeing it?

League has been going on for over 100 years, and had a hell of a lot more people getting belted in the head in the 70s and 80s than it does now.

in answer to the 'shouldn't we already be seeing it' - you'd find it's more prevalent than we realise as a society..

many ex footy players already battle through depression and addiction later in life.. these can be symptoms of CTE.. it may be CTE and we just haven't identified it yet.. we just see it as someone being down..

it's a similar situation to returning soldiers from WWI.. many were diagnosed with 'shell shock' , some placed in mental institutions.. when in reality they were suffering from PTSD and we just didn't know enough at the time... (even some solders who were charged with desertion we just suffering massive PTSD..)


plus add to the fact the following:
1. players are getting bigger
2. players are getting faster
3. we now have a 10 metre instead of 5 metre (allows for longer run ups, which is exacerbated by point number 2.)

add these in together, and simple physics says you have a recipe for the collisions between players to be greater and more impactful.

 

[851]

Interestingly an NFL player retired at the age of 24 over concussion concerns. I can't have too much of a pop at Souths for bending the rules as much as they can. The Raiders are honestly f**ked if Josh Miller decides to take legal action against the club. They utterly failed him in their duty of care. He will deadset be lucky to count to 2 in his old age.

The thing with concussions is they don't get any easier as players age. Miller used to get concussed if a particularly harsh gust of wind blew in his direction at the end. ex Professional wrestler Mick Foley can't ride wooden rollercoasters without risking a concussion.

The concern with trotting out players after a bit of dodgy medical examination is that it will simply get worse for that player. Having a concussion at all is a very serious medical condition. nevermind racking them up. We certainly don't want an ex rugby league player flipping out and doing something idiotic and his autopsy revealing he has a walnut sized brain from years of headknocks.

Fulton retired early due to the amount of concussions he has had,Turner on the other hand has had as many conconcussions and a spinal injury yet he looks like playing again this year,different teams different outcomes.

 

[nick87]

Josh Miller is going to be front and centre of any concussion based litigation brought on the NRL.
He'll be lucky not to be dribbling into a bib by the age of 45

 

[bottle]

Fulton retired early due to the amount of concussions he has had,Turner on the other hand has had as many conconcussions and a spinal injury yet he looks like playing again this year,different teams different outcomes.

Different individuals, different outcomes I think. Fulton retired of his own volition.