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Poupou Escobar

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I don't agree that it's the best use of a dummy half which is probably a good pointer as to why all 4 of those teams are behind the team who uses the position as it should.

Not every team has a Cameron Smith and if you don't have a gun dummy half there's no point pretending you do.

Dummy half is a very key position today and should not be ignored, it is a huge advantage to have someone in that position who is capable of reading the play.

You're right, but those players hardly grow on trees. That's why four of the top 8 teams just use an 80 minute tackling machine.
 

leo9999

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I think playing Hayne on one side of the field is just a waste. The defence only has to defend on one side of the field.... Why not play him at full back where he can bob up wherever he needs to be?


The only Reason i suggested playing Hayne in the Centres was due to us having halves next season, and that would leave Burty at Fullback, i just think having burty on the wing would be a weaklink in our backline compared to fullback. but either way i wouldnt be disapointed having hayne fullback next season. Not sure about burty on the wing though
 

Y2Eel

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I Really dont understand Kearney he says its a rebuilding year ? Right ok, So why play McGuire Halfback. Just play him starting hooker or off the bench and have a morts or humble at halfback ? Chris Hicks why is he even considered ? Reason because SK wants him to reach 200 NRL Appearances before he retires.

Seriously iam nervous even for next season. The way Kearneys wanted us to play this season, is just run kick and pass, nothing fancy no skill no offloads just boring tactics, no real set plays we dont look dangerous in attack, And our defence is crap, i dont want to bag any players, But Lasalo is a waste in our 2nd row, he's not good enough. I just hope next season he's not starting ahead of benny smith.


And about Jarryd Hayne, Next Season, ide like to see him at Centre. Our backline would look really dangerous, Knowing you have Tonga and Hayne in the Centres. And Esi and Loko on the wing. Ide love to see that backline, With Burt Fullback.


The club is rebuilding not just players but officials...
Hicks wont get a game next season at all but that is up to SK maybe he is testing some players for the rest of season and maybe he isnt..

If you put Hayne at centre who will he throw his cut out passes to?


Lassalo Morgan and Hicks Will see alot less first grade next season.. Also I would like to add to that List Poore and Shackleton They are useless...
 
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Eels Dude

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The only Reason i suggested playing Hayne in the Centres was due to us having halves next season, and that would leave Burty at Fullback, i just think having burty on the wing would be a weaklink in our backline compared to fullback. but either way i wouldnt be disapointed having hayne fullback next season. Not sure about burty on the wing though

I think the golden rule is don't weaken one position to strengthen another less important one.
 

Tizzun

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Kearney is learning on the job, at this point he is no Bellamy. I'm guessing he will probably reach the coaching level of a Langmack or Coleman, nothing more.
 

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Kearney is learning on the job, at this point he is no Bellamy. I'm guessing he will probably reach the coaching level of a Langmack or Coleman, nothing more.

That isnt much of a rap....I dare say he could potentially be better than alot of coaches at the moment. I guess we will see in 2012 just how good he can be....if we are in the same spot at the end of next year I dare say Stephen Kearney's NRL coaching career will be short lived.
 

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Lassalo Morgan and Hicks Will see alot less first grade next season.. Also I would like to add to that List Poore and Shackleton They are useless...

I think its a bit harsh on Poore at this point as he has just returned from a knee injury. If he is still around I would expect big things from him next year. At least with Poore in the team I have a bit of faith that we have some go forward with Fui and Mannah off the field
 

leo9999

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The club is rebuilding not just players but officials...
Hicks wont get a game next season at all but that is up to SK maybe he is testing some players for the rest of season and maybe he isnt..

If you put Hayne at centre who will he throw his cut out passes to?


Lassalo Morgan and Hicks Will see alot less first grade next season.. Also I would like to add to that List Poore and Shackleton They are useless...


Well Actually i was hoping hayne wouldnt get involved as much next season knowing we have two halves with sandow the obvious one who will be making the calls, i just dont want hayne coming into play when ever he wants and stuffs our plays up. Because ive certainly witnessed it over the years, its great when it comes off but when it doesnt it sure does look horrible.
 

CrazyEel

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Not every team has a Cameron Smith and if you don't have a gun dummy half there's no point pretending you do..
Then stop doing it with Keating, he's nothing more than an adequate stop gap.


You're right, but those players hardly grow on trees. That's why four of the top 8 teams just use an 80 minute tackling machine.
Yeah well we got to a GF with robson/Morts too but I doubt anyone was in a hurry to duplicate that combo either. Next year, when the backline is filled, I will be very surprised if we don't start looking for some wide running 2nd rowers and a game reading dummy half to complete the building.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Lassalo Morgan and Hicks Will see alot less first grade next season..

When we get some centres and Horo and Smith come back into the forwards, Lasalo will be at Wenty. At the moment he's a good backup and he'll be better for the run this year.

Morgan could end up starting at right centre next year. If not he could still end up with a spot on the wing.

Hicks won't be here next year. He's off contract and there's no way they'll re-sign him.

Also I would like to add to that List Poore and Shackleton They are useless...

Poore at his best is very good (though still overpaid) and Shackleton is a solid first grader. Poore won't be re-signed after next year unless he's willing to take a huge pay cut (and if he recovers from his injury). Shackleton will be lucky to receive a new contract.
 

Poupou Escobar

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who the hell is Mullaney?

Tigers reserve grader we just signed. I reckon he'll play fullback for Wenty meaning Burt will have to play wing.

Luke Burt will play 24 NRL games in 2012 barring any injury. Mark it down as gospel

We'll see.

The only reason he's still playing first grade is for his kicking game, which we won't need next year.
 

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Then stop doing it with Keating, he's nothing more than an adequate stop gap.

You think Kearney's trying to use Keating like Cam Smith?

He's not.

Keating is being used like the other solid hookers at Manly, Newcastle and Brisbane.

Yeah well we got to a GF with robson/Morts too but I doubt anyone was in a hurry to duplicate that combo either. Next year, when the backline is filled, I will be very surprised if we don't start looking for some wide running 2nd rowers and a game reading dummy half to complete the building.

I'm sure we'd look at getting a better hooker if one came available. As for edge forwards, we've got plenty on the books including one pretty good one in Reni Maitua. I reckon he'll be massive next year. Pat O'Hanlon also looks to be in Kearney's plans and who knows how good he'll end up?

Even Jacob Loko could end up in the back row.
 

Y2Eel

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When we get some centres and Horo and Smith come back into the forwards, Lasalo will be at Wenty. At the moment he's a good backup and he'll be better for the run this year.

Morgan could end up starting at right centre next year. If not he could still end up with a spot on the wing.

Hicks won't be here next year. He's off contract and there's no way they'll re-sign him.



Poore at his best is very good (though still overpaid) and Shackleton is a solid first grader. Poore won't be re-signed after next year unless he's willing to take a huge pay cut (and if he recovers from his injury). Shackleton will be lucky to receive a new contract.

I thought we were getting some centres next season? I must have been mistaken...


If Morgan is in the first grade team next year anywhere we wont be looking at the top 8 again... Im not saying he will be the reason but if there isnt any better players at the club infront of him next year then yeah we wont be in the 8....

Poore and Shack at their best was 3 years ago.... Shack can take up his comedy routine if he wants with the shack attack crap or whatever it is...
 

CrazyEel

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You think Kearney's trying to use Keating like Cam Smith?
NO, I didn't say that at all, you have been making out Keating is of far more value than he actually is. Like I said in the first place he is a viable stop gap just like Robson but no more.
 

Eels Dude

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NO, I didn't say that at all, you have been making out Keating is of far more value than he actually is. Like I said in the first place he is a viable stop gap just like Robson but no more.

Keating goes alright. He was one of our best best performers today, and was one of our best performers last week too. He's one guy that doesn't deserve to be a scapegoat over our last two losses.
 

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