Suncorp Stadium set to host NRL grand final

[Rastus_in_Melbourne]

The Sydney Football Stadium was good enough to host the GF, with the largest Rugby League crowd is 42,482 for the 1997 ARL Grand Final between Manly & Newcastle.

If Sydney didn't land the Olympics the GF would still be in that stadium, with 42K crowds.

The Suncorp 52K argument is bogus. It's not about capacity. The price paid to the NRL and ticket pricing can overcome any so called lesser crowds.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Suncorp to host a GF? What if the GF is between the Bulldogs and the Roosters? :lol:

 

[junior009]

Suncorp to host a GF? What if the GF is between the Bulldogs and the Roosters? :lol:

Then nobody in Sydney will want to see it either.

 

[Non Terminator]

How does not selling out in Sydney equate to what crowd would turn up in Melbourne?

I'm not saying that Melbourne should get it but I think the NRL would be wise not to tie itself into another long term contract next time around. 2-3 years tops or even alternate years Brisbane and Sydney for the next 4 years. Then lets see if any other city wants to put up a few mill to host it.

To tie it in a contract like that there could be a horror issue, I know it's extremely unlikely but what if those four Grand Finals were:

2013 - QLD - Sydney vs Newcastle
2014 - NSW - Brisbane vs Gold Coast
2015 - QLD - Manly vs Penrith
2016 - NSW - North Queensland vs Brisbane

Then nobody in Sydney will want to see it either.

Or will they?

 

[Timmah]

The Sydney Football Stadium was good enough to host the GF, with the largest Rugby League crowd is 42,482 for the 1997 ARL Grand Final between Manly & Newcastle.

If Sydney didn't land the Olympics the GF would still be in that stadium, with 42K crowds.

The Suncorp 52K argument is bogus. It's not about capacity. The price paid to the NRL and ticket pricing can overcome any so called lesser crowds.

:lol: A stadium not used for deciders in 10 years as a defence and a "what-if" to prove your point? :lol:

Yeah, I bit

 

[Timmah]

To tie it in a contract like that there could be a horror issue, I know it's extremely unlikely but what if those four Grand Finals were:

2013 - QLD - Sydney vs Newcastle
2014 - NSW - Brisbane vs Gold Coast
2015 - QLD - Manly vs Penrith
2016 - NSW - North Queensland vs Brisbane

Or will they?

...Or will they indeed

 

[joshreading]

I think the clear difference would be that QLD would UNDOUBTEDLY sell out the grandfinal irrelevant of the teams (even if the stadium were bigger) but that is far from gauranteed in Sydney

 

[Rastus_in_Melbourne]

:lol: A stadium not used for deciders in 10 years as a defence and a "what-if" to prove your point? :lol:

Yeah, I bit

No, just a point of reference in the outrage of hosting a Grand Final in a 52K stadium when a 42K stadium was perfectly fine not that long ago supposedly during the golden age of league pre Superleague.

 

[TheBourbonBeast]

The Suncorp 52K argument is bogus. It's not about capacity. The price paid to the NRL and ticket pricing can overcome any so called lesser crowds.

ive tried telling them that. The 30k is a a small thing in the whole issue.

Which is this:

QLD putting out feelers that they are intersted to host one..after 2012. And Gallop rightly said 'bring on the bidding war"

 

[TheBourbonBeast]

...Or will they indeed

I was there for both thate game.:shock: And the year after.

 

[Timmah]

No, just a point of reference in the outrage of hosting a Grand Final in a 52K stadium when a 42K stadium was perfectly fine not that long ago supposedly during the golden age of league pre Superleague.

So you're actually advocating the game go backwards then? "Not long ago" is 10 years now, not just a few years back. We've had ten Grand Finals at ANZ and only one fell below the 80,000 mark, and that crowd was between two out-of-towners and was just 400 short of the 80k.

ive tried telling them that. The 30k is a a small thing in the whole issue.

Which is this:

QLD putting out feelers that they are intersted to host one..after 2012. And Gallop rightly said 'bring on the bidding war"

I think the concept should be supported only if the highest ranked Grand Final qualifying team is QLD based, or if both teams competing are Queensland based.

Saying the 30k less is a small issue is laughable. Ticket prices would have to increase exponentially to make up for the shortfall. Someone did the sums earlier in this thread, we're talking a loss of millions of dollars.

 

[Rastus_in_Melbourne]

So you're actually advocating the game go backwards then? "Not long ago" is 10 years now, not just a few years back. We've had ten Grand Finals at ANZ and only one fell below the 80,000 mark, and that crowd was between two out-of-towners and was just 400 short of the 80k.

I think the concept should be supported only if the highest ranked Grand Final qualifying team is QLD based, or if both teams competing are Queensland based.

Saying the 30k less is a small issue is laughable. Ticket prices would have to increase exponentially to make up for the shortfall. Someone did the sums earlier in this thread, we're talking a loss of millions of dollars.

If you're only argument is capacity, no problem. Move it to Melbourne. The MCG will fit 100,000, even if it's only 80% full it's still about as much as ANZ.

Plus, Melbourne will pay more than what Sydney seem to be willing to pay. Win win. More spectators and more money to the NRL.

 

[Lambretta]

I don't have any problem with hosting the Grand Final based on "teams involved" ie if it's the Broncos v Cowboys then play it in Brisbane - BUT the NRL will not agree to that. They pre-sell tickets months before the game takes place and there is a large corporate sales component.

A "best venue for teams involved" approach would not wash with the NRL.

As for the "Brisbane would sell it out regardless of the teams involved" arguement - sure they would - for about the first few years. Then after 4 or 5 years and the finals between the Warriors and Cronulla or Penrith and Manly and there would be empty seats to be found.

Brisban-ites are strongly parochial. They'll rock up in huge numbers to cheer for Queensland or Australia or anything to do with any Queensland team - but I cant see them continually supporting "out of towners" for long periods.

Maybe the pre sold tickets would protect against this - as all tickets would probably be sold. But would it equate to bums on seats?

 

[adamkungl]

Its a combination of tradition, money, and spectators.

While Brisbane would be a massive step away from tradition, it IS a League city through and through, and for that reason I could cop Brisbane getting some GFs if it was financially worthwhile, ie. the money paid by the QLD Government more than made up for the 30,000 less spectators (which as I mentioned earlier, is $3million+). A lot of money, I think ticket prices would have to be more expensive to make up for it.

Melbourne probably would bring in more money. However it is not, and will never be a League heartland. This to me outwieghs the possible financial worth, it would be a true slap in the face to the fans. The GF should be played where the majority of the fans are.

 

[adamkungl]

I don't have any problem with hosting the Grand Final based on "teams involved" ie if it's the Broncos v Cowboys then play it in Brisbane - BUT the NRL will not agree to that. They pre-sell tickets months before the game takes place and there is a large corporate sales component.

It's a ridiculous idea for that very reason.

 

[StormChaser]

One or two.

Takes a weekend to see my mob from where I live. No excuse, I know. If I had 2 termite mounds on my chest instead of a brain, of course.

But, seeing as you are a Sydney based RL fan, and you claim Sydney fans are lazy and not deserving of any sides, are you not calling yourself lazy, and undeserving of a side?

Anyway, what the friggin hell are you doing out of the kitchen??????

I'M not lazy, Sydney fans like YOU are! lmao, if I manage to get to Newcastle, Campbelltown, Gosford, Brisbane, Townsville and Canberra just to name a few, why can't you?
Where do you live? Is there somewhere in NSW that doesn't have public transport? Can you not drive? what's the issue making you stay home yet demand the GF remains a Sydney event? One that don't even support???

How's bout you get in the kitchen and make me a sammich! Or can you not leave your armchair for that either?:lol:

 

[adamkungl]

I'M not lazy, Sydney fans like YOU are! lmao, if I manage to get to Newcastle, Campbelltown, Gosford, Brisbane, Townsville and Canberra just to name a few, why can't you?
Where do you live? Is there somewhere in NSW that doesn't have public transport? Can you not drive? what's the issue making you stay home yet demand the GF remains a Sydney event? One that don't even support???

How's bout you get in the kitchen and make me a sammich! Or can you not leave your armchair for that either?:lol:

Loudstrat lives at Northern Rivers or something...a $100, 12 hour train trip is hardly practical to see Parra games.

 

[StormChaser]

bullsh*t! God gave him a pair of legs! There's no excuse! :lol:

 

[Shorty]

As for the "Brisbane would sell it out regardless of the teams involved" arguement - sure they would - for about the first few years. Then after 4 or 5 years and the finals between the Warriors and Cronulla or Penrith and Manly and there would be empty seats to be found.

Brisban-ites are strongly parochial. They'll rock up in huge numbers to cheer for Queensland or Australia or anything to do with any Queensland team - but I cant see them continually supporting "out of towners" for long periods.

Maybe the pre sold tickets would protect against this - as all tickets would probably be sold. But would it equate to bums on seats?

Can you tell me how you know this?
Because to me it seems pretty damn arrogantly presumptious.

People wonder why our game is the way it is and look at the pathetic fans in here.

And you people are the same ones arguing about expansion?

Suncorp with a larger capacity would sell out either way it doesn't seem like it gets a chance to prove that which means 'shock horror' our game will stay the same size clutching at the AFL's legs.

 

[Timmah]

Clutching at the AFL's legs? :lol: