The ??? 4

[Tiger05]

This moronic club were the only bidders for this pathetic joke.I dreaded this outcome that out of the 4 we would retain this useless gump.2 more years of inane passing & kicking & defending like a pansy.

I hear what you are stating. Brooks may not even be an NRL player and we are paying him $550k per year. I honestly prefer this though than chasing after guys on huge dollars. It's also only for 2 years.

 

[Vic Mackey]

There isn't love for Woods. Its the fact he is head and shoulders better than our second best forward. We have f**k all go forward and if it wasn't for Woods we would have zero.

Tedesco is one of the leading players in the game in several attacking stats fields. He is that damn good. Moses was the only one demanding money he had no right to and we've cut him loose.

Furthermore, Hayne, Slater and Gordon are no longer better than Tedesco and not even close to him.

Holmes, Moylan, RTS, Trbojevic and Morris boys are not off contract.

Jack Bird is asking for near the same amount of money as Tedesco.

So if we let Teddy go, who do will be Fullback next year.

As I continually, repeatedly f**king say to you of late, look at what players are off contract.

We have to look at what we need to retain and what's available and decide from there.

You let Tedesco go and sign who?
You let Woods go and sign who?

Bare in mind we also need 2 centres, a winger, a goalkicker and a decent back rower.

We have 4 genuine NRL Standard players among a bunch of depth players and you're happy to flick half of them with ZERO plans on who to replace them with while also upgrading the rest of the side that is sub par.

It's got f**k all to do with favouritism and plenty to do with logic.

We won't LET Tedesco go and we won't lose him because of money, if Teddy goes it will be for other reasons.

If we lose Teddy I'll be shattered but life goes on. We've had him in our side for 5 years now and never made the finals.

Cleary knows what he is doing. He took over a warriors side that had been bottom
4 two years in a row. Started the year on -4 after the salary cap dramas the heat before. They would have made the finals except for the deduction. Next he took the warriors to 4 finals series in 5 years.

Was head hunted by a Penrith side that was probably in more of a shambles then ours. Cut 4 origin played in Jennings, Lewis, Tim grant and Michael Gordan. They made the top 4 a year later.

I trust him and for the first time in ages we have a bloke with a proven track record calling the shots.

We'll be fine.

 

[Tiger Ted]

There isn't love for Woods. Its the fact he is head and shoulders better than our second best forward. We have f**k all go forward and if it wasn't for Woods we would have zero.

Tedesco is one of the leading players in the game in several attacking stats fields. He is that damn good. Moses was the only one demanding money he had no right to and we've cut him loose.

Furthermore, Hayne, Slater and Gordon are no longer better than Tedesco and not even close to him.

Holmes, Moylan, RTS, Trbojevic and Morris boys are not off contract.

Jack Bird is asking for near the same amount of money as Tedesco.

So if we let Teddy go, who do will be Fullback next year.

As I continually, repeatedly f**king say to you of late, look at what players are off contract.

We have to look at what we need to retain and what's available and decide from there.

You let Tedesco go and sign who?
You let Woods go and sign who?

Bare in mind we also need 2 centres, a winger, a goalkicker and a decent back rower.

We have 4 genuine NRL Standard players among a bunch of depth players and you're happy to flick half of them with ZERO plans on who to replace them with while also upgrading the rest of the side that is sub par.

It's got f**k all to do with favouritism and plenty to do with logic.

Our contingency for teddy was going to b Zelezniak who made it clear he wanted to play fullback however he has recently resigned with Penrith.

There's no doubt we need to retain the captain & teddy however I'm not liking our chances particularly if the 2 cannibals the belmore grubs & bondi scum r chasing them.

 

[Shredder]

MU - how awesome would it be to have both of them in our "pack" to go with all the other middle forwards we have contracted past year end - I think Sue is the only one thats grade quality.

You know noone is talking about hookers - I reckon Liddle and Mc are doing OK. Im pretty happy with their efforts so far.

 

[madunit]

Woods isn't going to trouble us much if we lose him. I really don't see the issue. We have a tonne of middle forwards. That isn't our problem.

And they are all sub par, non NRL standard players. AS I SAID. That is the problem. We have a team full of depth players that are easybeats. Your solution is to buy more of these players to replace the few NRL quality players we have. It'sbeyond stupid.

I also think he is a good player but the way he has acted over the course of this period isn't acceptable to me. He is supposedly our captain and is refusing to sign and acting all non-committal.

Couldn't give a shit.

Tedesco is a gun but look at all those fullbacks that are out there.

Again. NAME the fullbacks out there who are off contract. NAME THEM!!

Then we have the main point - signing these guys onto overs is what screws us. We sign them for big dollars and can't build good teams around them. Tedesco is being offered more money than basically any other player in the game. Is he that good ?

Yes he is. He is the single person running our attack, from kick returns that help out our pathetic forwards, to hit ups he should be taking, to try assists that Moses should be doing. Our attack which is currently shithouse, rapidly gets worse without him.

So which Fullback that is available to sign can replicate his attack? NAME THEM!

I don't care if we don't sign someone to replace Tedesco. The point is that we have to have a set of balls and do what is right for the club over the longer term.

Tedesco is right for the club long term. But f**k it, lets not have a fullback eh. That'll help our attack and defence. Genius.

I think you sort of get it when you state we need some other players. What are we going to do if we retain Tedesco and Woods and can't buy anymore players.

If Teddy gets a million and Woods 800k, along with Brooks on 550k and Nofo on 350k we still have comfortably over 5 million for the rest of the side to work with

Do the right thing and treat this like a business. It's a business to these guys and they are making us look bad. I hope Clearly and the club does the same thing as they did with Moses and take offers off the table if this continues.

Name for me all the businesses that sell inferior products and are one of the most successful in their sector?

 

[Shredder]

The business of sport is not about cutting costs its about winning right?

Winning brings the fans and sponsors and sells the merch.

THATS the point of business is it not?

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

Wests Tigers statement on Mitchell Moses
WestTigers.com.au
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April 5, 2017 - 9:36 pm


Wests Tigers would like to clarify media reports this afternoon around the contract status of Mitchell Moses.

Due to the current uncertainty surrounding the salary cap for 2018 and beyond the Club has decided to prioritise the re-signings of captain Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.



As a result, the current contract offer that was with Moses’ management was taken off the table by Wests Tigers.

After being made aware of this decision Moses’ management requested an immediate release from the remainder of Moses’ current contract; this request was denied by Wests Tigers.

This decision was purely made due to the current uncertainty surrounding the salary cap, with the Club not willing to put itself in a risky position for 2018 and beyond.

The Club informed Moses’ management that it would be willing to revisit negotiations once the 2018 salary cap figure was confirmed.

 

[madunit]

Never thought I'd say this, but the club has done everything right there.

 

[The Charlatan]

f**k me, the management actually sound like they are managing for once...!

 

[Trollhammaren]

Agreed ^

I am loving Ivan's influence here. We're making the right moves. Ditching that insolent prick Moses to keep the others is definitely the right move. I'm confident we can sign Teddy and Woods, which really should be the priority.

Things are looking positive, Tigers fans!

 

[Perth Tiger]

So it seems like it is a massive tantrum from Moses

 

[The Charlatan]

So it seems like it is a massive tantrum from Moses

Yep. Make the merkin play the year out in reggies then let him theive a million a year from Pawwa.

 

[Tiger05]

And they are all sub par, non NRL standard players. AS I SAID. That is the problem. We have a team full of depth players that are easybeats. Your solution is to buy more of these players to replace the few NRL quality players we have. It'sbeyond stupid. Couldn't give a shit.

Again. NAME the fullbacks out there who are off contract. NAME THEM!!

Yes he is. He is the single person running our attack, from kick returns that help out our pathetic forwards, to hit ups he should be taking, to try assists that Moses should be doing. Our attack which is currently shithouse, rapidly gets worse without him.

So which Fullback that is available to sign can replicate his attack? NAME THEM!

Tedesco is right for the club long term. But f**k it, lets not have a fullback eh. That'll help our attack and defence. Genius.

If Teddy gets a million and Woods 800k, along with Brooks on 550k and Nofo on 350k we still have comfortably over 5 million for the rest of the side to work with

Name for me all the businesses that sell inferior products and are one of the most successful in their sector?

MU - I understand that you are getting worked up about this and you are entitled to your opinion however I think you are being dumb as dogshit. We have had cap problems for years because we overpay our stars in a desperate attempt to keep them and it backfires on us. We are paying Robbie who isn't at the club $750k this year and he is nowhere near that level a player. Are we going to keep doing this ?

I want to keep all of them but I also want to see this club be successful and overpaying players is the way to long term failure.

In stating that it sounds like the club has done the right thing in relation to Moses. They should have done the same thing with Woods because he is easily replaceable. I read that he is being offered huge money and will be close to if not the highest paid prop in the game. That isn't a good business decision. I hope this isn't true and we are finally realising that we have to be smart when it comes to recruitment and retention.

These turds have acted like complete and utter wankers for a while now. Give them some more chances but start playing the game on our terms.

 

[madunit]

MU - I understand that you are getting worked up about this and you are entitled to your opinion however I think you are being dumb as dogshit.

Your ignorance has nothing to do with my level of intellect.

We have had cap problems for years because we overpay our stars in a desperate attempt to keep them and it backfires on us. We are paying Robbie who isn't at the club $750k this year and he is nowhere near that level a player. Are we going to keep doing this ?

You should know that Farah is a poor comparison. His contract ended and we couldn't find a club to take him on because our board put him on the market after the season ended and squads for the following year were already settled. So the dumb pricks signed him for another two years and arseholed him after one.

Furthermore, he was never worth that, but he was owed that money after agreeing to pay cuts in previous deals to help the club out. When it came to the club to honour their end of they deal they backed out and tried to f**k him over. That is nothing like the situation here.

Tedesco is worth what Farah was being paid. Evidenced by the fact that several clubs have tabled offers close to, at or above the 1 mill a year mark. Those clubs have a better idea about Tedesco's worth some dickhead like you. So yes, he is worth it, because thats what other clubs are willing to pay. It's that f**king simple.

I want to keep all of them but I also want to see this club be successful and overpaying players is the way to long term failure.

The only overpaid players would have been Moses and Brooks is to be fair at least 150k overpaid (assuming he's on 550k).

There's very few quality props on the market at/above or near Woods' level. They'll all get offered big coin given there are not too many on the market.

And again, clubs are offering Woods the big dollars which means that is his value. We'd be paying overs if we are an excessively highest bidder. Which we aren't. If Woods signs on for 750k that is fine and a good deal here. He is twice the player that our next best prop is here. That's the gulf in quality between him and the depth players we have filling spots in the middle at this club.

In stating that it sounds like the club has done the right thing in relation to Moses. They should have done the same thing with Woods because he is easily replaceable. I read that he is being offered huge money and will be close to if not the highest paid prop in the game. That isn't a good business decision. I hope this isn't true and we are finally realising that we have to be smart when it comes to recruitment and retention.

These turds have acted like complete and utter wankers for a while now. Give them some more chances but start playing the game on our terms.

Moses should never have been retained because he was only ever interested in his bank account. He only played good when his contract wasn't decided.

He's the only player at the club that does that. He isn't going to help any club with that attitude so I'm glad he's going.

 

[simmo05]

I just cum in my pants when i heard they pulled this entitled little cts offer,LOL!!
Now stick the c@#t in nsw cup for the year!!

 

[Tiger05]

This is interesting. These guys are getting exactly what I'm stating. Woods apparently wants $900k. That is going to screw us over. Even Tedesco wants too much.

I reckon we give Woods no more than say $600k. If he goes at that price it's good for us. I'm not sure what we offer Tedesco but $1.1m is too high however as he is going to be a key player you could probably pay him overs. but there is no way we can keep doing that. If he goes for what we are offering him though it's not an issue.

There is a salary cap. We need to work out salaries based on that.

 

[Tiger05]

This is interesting as well. Seriously I'm starting to have jack of the big 4 of which the only gun player is Tedesco.

 

[Clifferd]

You can only afford to pay overs for probably one player in your team and Teddy is that one player. I agree 900k is a bit much for Woods despite how valuable he is to us

I suspect Cleary will have a plan in place despite what happens

 

[Tiger05]

You can only afford to pay overs for probably one player in your team and Teddy is that one player. I agree 900k is a bit much for Woods despite how valuable he is to us

I suspect Cleary will have a plan in place despite what happens

I reckon we should just get the rid of the guy. The way he has acted over this period has been poor. He also isn't the great player that people on this forum are stating. Yes he can win games for us but it's very very rare. I want to see Clearly and the club be smart about this.

 

[Crazyperpman]

I just cum in my pants when i heard they pulled this entitled little cts offer,LOL!!
Now stick the c@#t in nsw cup for the year!!

Wouldn't be better to let him go to Parra and miss tackles, throw dud passes and put in poor kicks for them and use the money to get across Dean Whare and possibly another decent player for this year?

Just let Parra know there are no returns, he is theirs now!