The Case for Adelaide.....

[flippikat]

So they just stole the Knights jersey basically lol

Quite the opposite.

In 1997, Newcastle wore vertical stripes.. then after the Rams died this happened to the Knights jersey:

 

[flippikat]

If a Sydney club is forced out, Perth would be the ideal place for it. That's one of the reasons I think Perth and Adelaide should be left vacant throughout the 2020s. If they get a Sydney club that is squeezed out of that market, and it could happen over the next decade, relocating it to Perth will probably see it given more leeway and support from head office than one that's created from scratch.

That's all good in theory, but how likely do you think it is that A) A Sydney club will go broke within the next decade, and B) that the NRL will make the hard decision to say "relocate, or we won't bail you out"?

From where I see it, even *if* A happens, the NRL will just bail the club out "as is, where is" rather than do B.

As Mark Twain is believed to have said, "History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes"

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's all good in theory, but how likely do you think it is that A) A Sydney club will go broke within the next decade, and B) that the NRL will make the hard decision to say "relocate, or we won't bail you out"?

From where I see it, even *if* A happens, the NRL will just bail the club out "as is, where is" rather than do B.

As Mark Twain is believed to have said, "History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes"

I'm under no illusion it will happen. I think the ARLC and clubs are content leaving it as a 16 team competiton, with Bris 2 the only expansion option to make it 17.

PVL ruled out Adelaide and Perth. None of the previous CEOs and Chairmen showed any interest in Adelaide and Perth. It's why I don't waste any time talking about an 18th, 19th or 20th licence going to Adelaide and Perth, as l'm of the belief it will never happen under the structure of the ARLC. The clubs will need to approve of it and none of them are going to do that.

 

[flippikat]

I'm under no illusion it will happen. I think the ARLC and clubs are content leaving it as a 16 team competiton, with Bris 2 the only expansion option to make it 17.

PVL ruled out Adelaide and Perth. None of the previous CEOs and Chairmen showed any interest in Adelaide and Perth. It's why I don't waste any time talking about an 18th, 19th or 20th licence going to Adelaide and Perth, as l'm of the belief it will never happen under the structure of the ARLC. The clubs will need to approve of it and none of them are going to do that.

That's the frustration I have with the NRL. They have an almost unshakable belief that the same suburban Sydney profile we've had since 2003 (when Manly took the Northern Eagles place) is not only fit for purpose in a 21st Century national top-tier league, but must be maintained at all costs.

If simply expanding to 20 teams is a no-go because it cuts the cake into too many slices then letting clubs die, relegation, or relocation are the only ways to progress.

 

[Perth Red]

How much is Cumins worth?

he’s a multi millionaire whose public.y stated he is willing to significantly back the club. Sadly he is 68 so time is running out on this opportunity.

 

[Perth Red]

That's the frustration I have with the NRL. They have an almost unshakable belief that the same suburban Sydney profile we've had since 2003 (when Manly took the Northern Eagles place) is not only fit for purpose in a 21st Century national top-tier league, but must be maintained at all costs.

If simply expanding to 20 teams is a no-go because it cuts the cake into too many slices then letting clubs die, relegation, or relocation are the only ways to progress.

perth has always been talked about as an option by all CEOs since Greenberg. SadLy the game lacks the vision to shake off its small minded mentality and take the step to make it reality. If perth can’t a club the. Adelaide has absolutely Buckley’s chance.

 

[The Great Dane]

perth has always been talked about as an option by all CEOs since Greenberg. SadLy the game lacks the vision to shake off its small minded mentality and take the step to make it reality. If perth can’t a club the. Adelaide has absolutely Buckley’s chance.

Even earlier than that, Gallop was looking into them a decade ago and Smith was very favourable to the Pirates.

Also if the NRL can't make a club work in Perth then they may as well give up now.

 

[Perth Red]

Even earlier than that, Gallop was looking into them a decade ago and Smith was very favourable to the Pirates.

Also if the NRL can't make a club work in Perth then they may as well give up now.

sorry Meant gallop!

gallop
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-06-30/perth-in-box-seat-if-nrl-expands/886382

Smith
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/r...expansion-ng-e09ca106839789a6520490449a046afa

Greenberg
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/gr...perth-on-expansion-front-20190318-p5159f.html

 

[Smell My Finger]

Lol, Adelaide couldn't give less of a f**k about RL.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Lol, Adelaide couldn't give less of a f**k about RL.

Fancy seeing you here!

 

[Smell My Finger]

Fancy seeing you here!

Do i know you?

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Do i know you?

Maybe. Maybe not.

I’m no gynaecologist but I do know a C$&t when I see one..

 

[Smell My Finger]

Maybe. Maybe not.

I’m no gynaecologist but I do know a C$&t when I see one..

That's not very nice.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's the frustration I have with the NRL. They have an almost unshakable belief that the same suburban Sydney profile we've had since 2003 (when Manly took the Northern Eagles place) is not only fit for purpose in a 21st Century national top-tier league, but must be maintained at all costs.

If simply expanding to 20 teams is a no-go because it cuts the cake into too many slices then letting clubs die, relegation, or relocation are the only ways to progress.

A national reserve grade competition, as unlikely as it is to be given the green light, would allow the ARLC to expand into Adelaide and Perth without changing the NRL. Melbourne Storm could use Adelaide and Perth as their feeder clubs.

Another option would be for Melbourne to become the Southern Storm and adopt Adelaide and Perth, but it will never happen. 8 games Melbourne, 2 games Perth, 2 games Adelaide.

A club like the Tigers has been making up the numbers since 2011. The Balmain side of the merger is almost dead. The Magpie side isn't allowed to use their name, but are expected to fund the joint venture. It's a mess. Surely if a Perth consortium were interested in buying a 50% or 33% stake in the club, change the name to Western Magpies and play a few games in Perth, then the ARLC and Western Suburbs should at least consider it. I know it's not ideal, but Perth would gain representation and some games, while Magpies get their identity back. It's the only way I can see Perth and Magpies getting back into the NRL.

 

[greenBV4]

A national reserve grade competition, as unlikely as it is to be given the green light, would allow the ARLC to expand into Adelaide and Perth without changing the NRL. Melbourne Storm could use Adelaide and Perth as their feeder clubs.

Another option would be for Melbourne to become the Southern Storm and adopt Adelaide and Perth, but it will never happen. 8 games Melbourne, 2 games Perth, 2 games Adelaide.

A club like the Tigers has been making up the numbers since 2011. The Balmain side of the merger is almost dead. The Magpie side isn't allowed to use their name, but are expected to fund the joint venture. It's a mess. Surely if a Perth consortium were interested in buying a 50% or 33% stake in the club, change the name to Western Magpies and play a few games in Perth, then the ARLC and Western Suburbs should at least consider it. I know it's not ideal, but Perth would gain representation and some games, while Magpies get their identity back. It's the only way I can see Perth and Magpies getting back into the NRL.

An issue with this that you'll probably find is that a good portion of the potential supporters in Perth (or Adelaide for that matter) would likely never get behind a team called the magpies or the tigers - Like Melbourne a team in these cities would rely on a good portion of their supporter base being those who are adopting them as a "second team" to their AFL club, and hence wouldn't like supporting a team with either name as they are both big AFL rivals

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

An issue with this that you'll probably find is that a good portion of the potential supporters in Perth (or Adelaide for that matter) would likely never get behind a team called the magpies or the tigers - Like Melbourne a team in these cities would rely on a good portion of their supporter base being those who are adopting them as a "second team" to their AFL club, and hence wouldn't like supporting a team with either name as they are both big AFL rivals

That might deter some people, but if they feel that strongly about a fumbleball club then odds are they wouldn't have time for an RL club.

 

[greenBV4]

That might deter some people, but if they feel that strongly about a fumbleball club then odds are they wouldn't have time for an RL club.

Its 2020, people can, and do, watch more than one sport

plus you yourself have said how a perth or adelaide club would need all the help they can get - why risk alienating potential supporters with a name of 2 big AFL clubs

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its 2020, people can, and do, watch more than one sport

plus you yourself have said how a perth or adelaide club would need all the help they can get - why risk alienating potential supporters with a name of 2 big AFL clubs

That would leave Cronulla, Penrith, St George, Parramatta, Souths and Easts as the only options for relocation. I cannot see any of them leaving Sydney for Adelaide or Perth.

 

[greenBV4]

That would leave Cronulla, Penrith, St George, Parramatta, Souths and Easts as the only options for relocation. I cannot see any of them leaving Sydney for Adelaide or Perth.

They are no more likely to willingly leave than any club

Southern Sharks and Perth Panthers both do sound nice though

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They are no more likely to willingly leave than any club

Southern Sharks and Perth Panthers both do sound nice though

I think MugaB would have something to say about that.