The Las Vegas Thread

[SpaceMonkey]

You think skynz are only buying nrl because of warriors despite them showing the other 7 nrl games every weekend?

You think they’d pay even half of what they pay if there wasn’t an NZ team there?

 

[The Great Dane]

My completely 100% marketing brain went directly to locations Americans may have heard, or at least, sound as though they aren't within a 15 minute drive from each other - as well as utilising the "cool" mascots as if you were selling the game to a kid.

In this train of thought, it's why I personally wouldn't send across South Sydney and Sydney in the same year. It's a small thing sure, but if this is likely a make or break scenario I'd avoid any potential hazard in terms of optics or confusion.

I would've selected the teams listed below if the above was all that went into picking the teams and money/promotion from celebs wasn't a factor:

2024:
Penrith Panthers: Cool mascot, location a non-issue since Penrith is entirely unknown over there.
Canberra Raiders - Cool mascot, tie in with the LV Raiders/NFL, location mostly unknown.
Brisbane Broncos - Recognisable mascot, location might ring a bell as a city other than Sydney/Melbourne.
Sydney Roosters - Odd, likely humerous mascot to US fans, instantly recognisable city.

2025:
Melbourne Storm - Very American-esque team name, recognisable city.
Manly Sea-Eagles - Similar to the above in terms of mascot, location unknown to the US much like Penrith.
South Sydney Rabbitohs - Odd, likely humerous mascot to US fans, instantly recognisable city.
Newcastle Knights - American-esque mascot, location unknown but obviously different.

Celebrity/influencer endorsement is currently the most powerful marketing technique, and word of mouth the second. You'd also know that using the influence of famous supporters and owners to attract interest is the only hope the NRL has of making any sort of impact on the US market (even then it'd undoubtably be the equivalent of a pebble thrown in the ocean), and that strong word of mouth is their only hope of having a lasting impact.

The truth is that cracking the US market would take decades, cost tens of billions of dollars, and would inevitably result in a local competition that the NRL wouldn't really benefit from financially. In other words it's almost certainly a pipe dream that the NRL doesn't have the means to pull off.

 

[Wb1234]

You think skynz are only buying nrl because of warriors despite them showing the other 7 nrl games every weekend?

What did they pay before the warriors came into the nrl ?

 

[Perth Red]

You think they’d pay even half of what they pay if there wasn’t an NZ team there?

Who knows? His assertion is that skynz are paying $32mill just for warriors games. Which is highly unlikely given the other 7 games rate higher combined by three fold than the warriors games.

 

[Perth Red]

What did they pay before the warriors came into the nrl ?

In 1994 before skynz existed? In some different multiverse they were paying 400 million Sentra credits,

 

[The Great Dane]

Too complicated for you

nrl make massive profits from nz which they don’t reinvest back in nz rl

indeed Canberra benefit from this

Not complicated at all, it's just got absolutely nothing to do with what we were actually discussing. . .

Taking a profit isn't a crime either. They wouldn't do it at all if there was no profit to be made.

 

[Wb1234]

In 1994 before skynz existed? In some different multiverse they were paying 400 million Sentra credits,

Before the warriors the tv rights to nz were worth zilch

games were shown in nz too

 

[hrundi99]

Haha most Americans struggle to differentiate Austria and Australia, I’m pretty confident 99.9% of them have never heard of manly.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

My completely 100% marketing brain went directly to locations Americans may have heard, or at least, sound as though they aren't within a 15 minute drive from each other - as well as utilising the "cool" mascots as if you were selling the game to a kid.

In this train of thought, it's why I personally wouldn't send across South Sydney and Sydney in the same year. It's a small thing sure, but if this is likely a make or break scenario I'd avoid any potential hazard in terms of optics or confusion.

I would've selected the teams listed below if the above was all that went into picking the teams and money/promotion from celebs wasn't a factor:

2024:
Penrith Panthers: Cool mascot, location a non-issue since Penrith is entirely unknown over there.
Canberra Raiders - Cool mascot, tie in with the LV Raiders/NFL, location mostly unknown.
Brisbane Broncos - Recognisable mascot, location might ring a bell as a city other than Sydney/Melbourne.
Sydney Roosters - Odd, likely humerous mascot to US fans, instantly recognisable city.

2025:
Melbourne Storm - Very American-esque team name, recognisable city.
Manly Sea-Eagles - Similar to the above in terms of mascot, location unknown to the US much like Penrith.
South Sydney Rabbitohs - Odd, likely humerous mascot to US fans, instantly recognisable city.
Newcastle Knights - American-esque mascot, location unknown but obviously different.

Warriors - cool name with exotic mascot, location whole other country which instantly makes the NRL look like a bigger deal compared to just another city

 

[Wb1234]

Not complicated at all, it's just got absolutely nothing to do with what we were actually discussing. . .

Taking a profit isn't a crime either. They wouldn't do it at all if there was no profit to be made.

Yes it does

if anyone has been neglected by the nrl is the warriors

a lot of Canberras problems are of their own making

the club has a property protfolio worth over 100 million and multiple leagues club supporting them

they should have no problems being a strong club

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Before the warriors the tv rights to nz were worth zilch

games were shown in nz too

Sky would pay about as much for the NRL without the Warriors as they do for ESL, ie 2/10ths of f**k-all.

 

[Perth Red]

Before the warriors the tv rights to nz were worth zilch

games were shown in nz too

They werent exactly worth a lot in australia either lol

 

[Perth Red]

Sky would pay about as much for the NRL without the Warriors as they do for ESL, ie 2/10ths of f**k-all.

So what your saying is that without an nrl team in America theres buckleys of getting any interest from usa tv companies?

 

[Wb1234]

So what your saying is that without an nrl team in America theres buckleys of getting any interest from usa tv companies?

What are the esl rights worth anyway for Australia ?

five magic beans ?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

So what your saying is that without an nrl team in America theres buckleys of getting any interest from usa tv companies?

Completely different scale, the US is a huge market, they’d never pay serious $ for the NRL but even as a niche foreign sport in a market of 300M the revenue would be substantial.

 

[Perth Red]

Completely different scale, the US is a huge market, they’d never pay serious $ for the NRL but even as a niche foreign sport in a market of 300M the revenue would be substantial.

Hang you said nz would pay nothing without a nz club in the comp. 300 x nothing is still nothing! How many American people do you honestly think will get interested in rl due to a double header once a year? NRL is already shown on tv in usa but I’m not aware it has got any traction or that the deal is worth anything worthwhile?
union has spent a lot more time and money then we ever will and has made little headway over there.

ironically we probably had a much better chance when we still allowed the biff, that would have got them interested at least.

ironically I applaud Vlandys, at least he’s been honest and said it’s really just about trying to tap into the gamblers, sad as that may be.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

God you’re a knob-end, I didn’t mean literally nothing, Sky would still screen the NRL and pay something for it, but that something would be a pittance.
60x a pittance though, that’s actually something.

 

[Perth Red]

God you’re a knob-end, I didn’t mean literally nothing, Sky would still screen the NRL and pay something for it, but that something would be a pittance.
60x a pittance though, that’s actually something.

My bad. When you said “2/10ths of f**k all“ I thought you actually meant it. I’ll be mindful to ignore you’re over exaggerations in future.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

My bad. When you said “2/10ths of f**k all“ I thought you actually meant it. I’ll be mindful to ignore you’re over exaggerations in future.

f**k me dead, you must be fun at parties.

 

[Perth Red]

f**k me dead, you must be fun at parties.

Depends what I’m drinking