The Roosters' bandwagon

[Timmah]

:lol:

Notice the Bulldogs crowd averages are always a decent figure?

Have fun with your figures boys, twist them how you want. Your support in the previous five years doesn't match up to ours, that's all there is to it.

 

[aids]

bandwagon is a stupid term

people will go to the football if they think their team will win
therfore sucessful teams will attract a large crowd.

other factors are core supporters, usually groups.
each team has them.

also, local support has a huge impact as well, best examples are newcastle last year, coming dead last and drawing huge crowds.
it was brillant
i think the cowboys usually drew ok crowds as well.

melbourne although maligned, by myself as well is limited by the almost complete lack of coverage in the local media as well as a pretty ordinary ground.
two things that hopefully will be sorted out in the near future.


plus yesterday was a pretty hot day.
so it doesn't suprise me if a few people either decided to stay at hoem and watch the game or go out to the beaches to enjoy the last few days of sun.


either way, total average crowd figures are up, and that the main thing.

 

[Choppies]

Dodge just admit you were wrong.

 

[Cheesie-the-Pirate]

Roosters games rate poorly full stop. Their averages have never been overly impressive

Then you want to quibble about a difference of 600?! If the Roosters games "rate poorly" and the averages are not "overly impressive", your team is in exactly the same boat. The exact numerical difference is not what's at stake, it's the magnitude of the difference. Which is basically zero.

Sorry dodge, but that isn't twisting figures. That's you getting caught out.

As to the Bulldogs always being a decent figure, let's look back at 2002.

1 double header at Homebush - 37,183
1 "home" game at Wellington - 24,251
10 home games at the Showgrounds - Average 10,849

Not exactly stellar. Particularly the 6,211 against Canberra in Round 15.

Meanwhile, that year Easts averaged 13,067.

Now, it's unfair to let the double-header overly distort the Bulldogs crowd. So we'll halve that figure to work out the Bulldogs average. That gives us 12,610.

So in 2002 Easts' home crowd average was higher than the Bulldogs.

Now, that's not to say that:

a) the Bulldog's overall crowd figures are dissapointing.
b) Easts' overall crowd figures are better than Bulldogs.

Neither of those are true.

However, it was you dodge that challenged the Roosters to give a year that Easts' crowds were higher then the Bulldogs. It was also you that claimed that their crowds are not that impressive.

Bulldogs crowds are better than Easts. But not by enough to justify your hubris.

 

[aids]

2002 was the bulldogs "rort the system and win 18 in row" year, wasn't it?
that's a bit sad they were pulling only 13,000 on average a game.

although the showground is horrible

 

[Cheesie-the-Pirate]

Sorry dodge, but that isn't twisting figures. That's you getting caught out.

Cancel that.

Time for a mea culpa here (although nobody else, including dodge, picked it up).

Those figures are most definitely twisted.

The 17,309/17,900 figures are home and away.

If we strictly stick to home games, which would be the more correct way to conisder these figures, I make the averages:

Canterbury 2005: 18,997
Easts 2005: 16,146

Which is, of course, a much bigger difference.

Make of that what you will.

I think the rest of what I said largely still holds, but the correction had to be made.

 

[Timmah]

Either way, the Roosters rarely hold up to the crowd standards of Canterbury. They have a 40,000 seater stadium, but rarely come within a bulls roar. It's pathetic. They have a very small core and it's sad to watch.

 

[m0j0]

Meh. I'd much rather have our smaller, peaceful crowds than the rabble that the Bulldogs games attract.

 

[Choppies]

Canterbury have an 80K stadium. What's the excuse there?
The Roosters and Bulldogs crowd figures have been very close over the last few years.

 

[SalfordRedsWA]

At least our fans care enough for our crowds to pick up.

Nice jibe at the crowd element - if you want to do that, leave it in the Harmony Day thread. This is about the pathetic amount of support shown for your club.

But your fans are also Lebanese.
Your fans are like soccer thugs.

 

[tommytomlin]

Dodge is certainly living up to his name tonight

 

[OVP]

speaking to friends who were at the game last night they scoffed at suggestions that were 10k they say it was more like 7 or 8.

Yes, but all your friends are probably French

 

[OVP]

Either way, the Roosters rarely hold up to the crowd standards of Canterbury.

And choc full of complete f**king tosspots who even Satan would reject. Not even Satan would entertain such unbridled, filthy COWARDS.

 

[RABK]

Meh. I'd much rather have our smaller, peaceful crowds than the rabble that the Bulldogs games attract.

Well said.

 

[Timmah]

:lol:

Can't match up with figures and stats, so you have to drag this f**king pathetic crowd sh*t into another thread?

Keep it where it belongs. This thread is about the poor level of support shown for the Roosters.

32k plays 12k, that's THIS weekend just gone.

 

[MEATWAD]

dodge, you certainly be trying to dodge that bullet. every point you spout you've been called on. just give up and admit the facts.

 

[tommytomlin]

:lol:

Can't match up with figures and stats, so you have to drag this f**king pathetic crowd sh*t into another thread?

Keep it where it belongs. This thread is about the poor level of support shown for the Roosters.

32k plays 12k, that's THIS weekend just gone.

No, it was about the poor level of support shown for the Roosters, then figures were posted that proved that myth wrong, then you made it about Roosters figures vs Bulldogs figures, got absolutely no support, and now you're trying to compare crowd figures from a Friday Night grudge match between the Bulldogs and the Sydney based premiers to a match involving the Roosters and an under-supported team from another state.

The Roosters drew 70,000+ to their grand final with the Panthers, yet the Bulldogs drew 0 fans that same round. Therefore, the Roosters are better supported.

 

[Choppies]

dodge, you certainly be trying to dodge that bullet. every point you spout you've been called on. just give up and admit the facts.

dodge dosen't like facts it seems. They prove his imagination and lies wrong :lol:

 

[Timmah]

Bulldogs drew 80,000+ to their Grand Final against the Roosters, and won 16-13.

The Roosters made 4 GRAND FINALS in the five year period between 2000 and 2004, yet managed only to win once, and haven't managed to garner the support akin to that of Brisbane or North Queensland. Don't even try to tell me it's because of the stadium.

By the way, HMS's stats don't support your claims anymore... ;-)

 

[Timmah]

dodge dosen't like facts it seems. They prove his imagination and lies wrong :lol:

Nothing wrong with an active imagination