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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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Tommy Smith

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Foxtel paid AFL a record $650 million over five years for four exclusive live games a week, yet pays the NRL only $42 million a year for five live games a week. Foxtel boss Kim Williams has acknowledged the high price paid - which allows coverage of all AFL games - was designed to increase subscriptions in the AFL states (currently 24 per cent in Adelaide to 27 per cent in Melbourne), well below subscriptions in Sydney (38 per cent) and Brisbane (32 per cent).
That is simply outrageous.

The NRL is getting paid what essentially amounts to chicken feed in today's world for five live NRL games which are the foundation of their subscription numbers in QLD and NSW.

Fox can get stuffed. As stated the pre and post-game shows are simply horrendous as well. The AFLs are a 1000 times better so clearly they are taking the NRL for granted.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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This Williams fella is a real knobend.

The AFL are killing RL when it comes to off field (and on) stuff ups and has been well in front for years.
 
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NRL club bosses meet tomorrow in Sydney, unanimous they must be rewarded at the next broadcasting contract for the high ratings and subscriptions their games generate, even if it means abandoning Foxtel.
While clubs are optimistic competition among the free-to-air networks will deliver the dollars consistent with the code's popularity in NSW and Queensland, there is a growing fear pay TV monopolist Foxtel will not offer the same for NRL rights as it recently did for AFL games.
It is possible clubs will support NRL chief executive David Gallop in a strategy of offering all eight games per week to the free-to-air networks on a short-term basis, shutting out Foxtel until the News Ltd-controlled service realises the disastrous loss of subscriptions such a move would cause.
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Foxtel paid AFL a record $650 million over five years for four exclusive live games a week, yet pays the NRL only $42 million a year for five live games a week. Foxtel boss Kim Williams has acknowledged the high price paid - which allows coverage of all AFL games - was designed to increase subscriptions in the AFL states (currently 24 per cent in Adelaide to 27 per cent in Melbourne), well below subscriptions in Sydney (38 per cent) and Brisbane (32 per cent).
While Williams sees less capacity for growth in NRL subscriptions, club bosses believe Fox Sports was built on the popularity of rugby league and they should be rewarded for what they have delivered.
If this involves selling Foxtel's Super Saturday three games and the high-rating Monday night game to the free-to-air networks, with the consequent cancellation of Foxtel subscriptions in NSW and Queensland, this may be the only course to bring Foxtel to the table with an offer that reflects just value. Asked to comment on a future broadcasting package, Gallop said: ''We envisage a mix of FTA and pay at this stage but one thing is clear - we drive subscriptions, we provide 73 of the top 100 shows [on pay-TV]. You can talk about length of games and number of ads being different with AFL but at the end of the day it's about what people sign up for and that's clearly our game. We must get value for that.
''And if we do not, then we need to consider alternatives. If this involves a short-term FTA deal without Foxtel, so be it.''
Gallop said there had been unprecedented lobbying by networks Seven, Nine and Ten: ''The FTAs are currently knocking our door down to show their interest.''
Tomorrow's rare dual meetings of club chairmen and chief executives in Coogee is the first since an independent commission was named.
The broadcasting contract and its flow on effects to club grants and the salary cap is high on the agenda.
Gallop and L.E.K. Consulting's Colin Smith have not been given permission to begin formal negotiations with networks until the commission is in place to ratify the broadcasting contract, but the first meeting of the eight directors of the new ruling body is imminent.
Complicated first-and-last rights provisions with each of the four entities that hold options over NRL rights - Channel Nine, Fox Sports, SKY New Zealand and News Ltd - mean it could take 15 months to negotiate the final broadcasting contract.
Informal discussions to date with network chiefs have delighted the NRL over the interest from free-to-air TV but executives are alarmed Williams prefers AFL because of its superior ''family image.'' Gallop countered with: ''The AFL have had their fair share of off-field image issues.''
Williams also points out AFL games last three hours, compared to the NRL's two, allowing greater opportunity for commercials.
However, Foxtel will not show advertisements after goals, in a deliberate strategy of wooing viewers from Channel Seven for the four AFL games they simulcast. Foxtel also believe AFL's pre- and post-game shows are superior to the NRL.
Smith said: ''The NRL media results for 2011 reinforce the game's leadership position with State of Origin, the three most watched game ever with 3.8 million viewers; critically, pay TV numbers are up 20 per cent; NRL dominates the top 100 shows on pay TV.''
Asked the effect of Foxtel losing rugby league, considering its existing packages force subscribers to buy programs they don't wish to see, Smith said: ''It would be very significant indeed and lead to a major loss in subscribers from pay TV.
''If FTA TV bought NRL for say three years, it could be catastrophic for Foxtel.''


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-to-get-rights-value-20110719-1hnb0.html#poll

the online poll there is at 80% yes to cancel subscription atm
 
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Gallop has giant, clinking balls? Who would’ve guessed.

3 years of NRL on FTA only would def shake up a few things.


Would be a great way for the game to go. Foxtel has underpaid us for years, get rid of them and watch subscribers leave in record numbers. Rugby league is their number 1 sport and should be paid accordingly.

The other networks between them could show all the NRL games and with high rating games such as Friday night, Monday night and State of Origin the money would not be too much less for a 3 year deal.

After the 3 years, Foxtel after losing so many customers will pay the NRL a motza to get the rights back. I hope the clubs and NRL go down this path.
 
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The other thing that NRL fans should hope for no matter what our political views are is the building of the NBN as soon as possible.

The NBN going past as many homes as possible could see other providers step into provide pay tv in our country and what better to start a new pat tv company with than the NRL.
 

Rexxy

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dont just vote here... email here


Public Affairs and Media Contacts
Adam Suckling, Director - Policy/Corporate Affairs
Phone (61 2) 9813 6000
corporateaffairs@foxtel.com.au


And while I dont condone such activities, many people are watching sport over the web on illegal streams, which is wrong, but a growing practice. "f**k Foxtel" seems to be the mood.
 
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Goddo

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Well done Gallop. Saying what needs to be said.

You watch the News and Telstra hacks try to talk about "opening new markets" and "length of game" and other bullsh!t spin.

Facts are NRL is the highest rating sport on TV in Australia. You want it, you gotta pay for it. Maybe cut a bigger Internet deal with Telstra, and get footy on the T-box. I'm sure they would love that.

PS - where are all the Gallop haters who think he is just a News hack?
 

whall15

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This is quite brilliant, I don't think that most people would have a need for Foxtel if there were no NRL, they sell the Premier League as a package online for $80 a season too.
 

Goddo

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There seems to be quite a bit of positive momentum at the NRL at the moment. Gallop and co are doing a good job laying the platform for the IC. Heres News' take on it from the Australian:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...nts-to-its-clubs/story-e6frg7mf-1226097854496
STRUGGLING NRL clubs are set to receive the kiss of life tomorrow when chief executive David Gallop outlines plans to use money from the the game's next television deal to dramatically increase the size of the grant from 2013.

Gallop and broadcasting consultant Colin Smith are scheduled to make presentations as part of a summit on the game's future, which will be attended by chief executives and chairmen from all 16 clubs.

The most significant issues are the season schedule from 2013 and negotiations over the next broadcasting deal.

The Australian understands the NRL will outline a series of scenarios for the TV rights, which some optimistic officials hope could generate as much as $1 billion over five years, from 2013.

The NRL is expected to propose significant increases in the amount of money it dispenses to the clubs each year.

That should appease the concerns of club chairmen, who will hold their own meeting before the summit to discuss where they think the game should head under an independent commission.

Central to their concerns is the financial future of their clubs. With the clubs appeased, the focus will switch to the players, who are hoping for a significant increase in their own pay when the broadcasting deal comes to fruition.

However, the NRL's desire to improve the lot of its clubs could come at the expense of the players. Rugby League Professionals Association chief executive David Garnsey met the NRL yesterday and was taken through the proposed structure of the competition from 2013.

It is understood that proposal, which one official described as revolutionary yesterday, includes the scrapping of City-Country, shifting State of Origin games to Monday nights and the remainder of the representative calendar moved to the end of the year.

It is also understood there will be greater protection of clubs with a high number of representatives, a move designed to ease the load on the game's elite players.

Yet the NRL did not disclose its plans for the salary cap at the meeting, perhaps wary of alienating the players before the TV deal is completed.

"The purpose of the meeting is to drill down into a couple of key issues rather than trying to look at everything in the game at this stage of the season," Gallop said.

"Those issues are the future structure of the broadcasting rights and the impact of the broadcasting rights on the level of the salary cap and the grant.

"We have had a long-held view that we wanted the grant to equal, if not exceed, the cap to provide financial stability to the clubs and certainly the scenarios we are looking at are going to to do that."

South Sydney chairman Nick Pappas will also address the meeting and announce the game's inaugural eight independent commissioners, who were confirmed at a meeting of stakeholders on Monday.

Meanwhile, officials are optimistic the NRL's legal stoush with Queensland coach Mal Meninga could be resolved by the end of the week as talks continue.
 

imasharkie

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I voted "no" because of family love for Foxtel but I would watch very little of Foxtel if they don't have footy. Probably downgrade my subscription from Gold in protest.
 

Qld-Sharkie

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dont just vote here... email here


Public Affairs and Media Contacts
Adam Suckling, Director - Policy/Corporate Affairs
Phone (61 2) 9813 6000
corporateaffairs@foxtel.com.au


And while I dont condone such activities, many people are watching sport over the web on illegal streams, which is wrong, but a growing practice. "f**k Foxtel" seems to be the mood.


Why tell them?? Let the greedy a-holes suffer a slow, lonely death...let all of Australia enjoy free to air football.
 

whall15

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Can someone explain the Monday Night Origin to me?

Is it

a) Teams play Friday to Sunday then Origin on Monday.

or

b) Weekend off, Origin on Monday.
 

Brutus

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They are some of the best comments ever attributed to Gallop.

Well done and keep it up. It's taken almost a decade.

We will continue to monitor your progress though.
 
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BuffaloRules

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This is the perfect scenario for the NRL...

Foxtel wouldnt survive 12 months if they lost the NRL rights...

I would very much enjoy cancelling my subscription....
 

TheRam

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That is simply outrageous.

The NRL is getting paid what essentially amounts to chicken feed in today's world for five live NRL games which are the foundation of their subscription numbers in QLD and NSW.

Fox can get stuffed. As stated the pre and post-game shows are simply horrendous as well. The AFLs are a 1000 times better so clearly they are taking the NRL for granted.


Am I missing something? Isn't the pre & post game shows Foxtels responsibility, not something that the NRL has anything to do with? Therefore he is by default admitting to not looking after the NRL as well as he should, and they are putting all their effort and resources into the AFL over the NRL their number one customer/property.

If so Gallop should jump straight down his throat for that statement.
 
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