The TV rights thread part II

[carlosthedwarf]

I posted this in the thread where Gallop mentioned the NFL, one of the ways the NFL makes a lot of its TV revenue is by selling some of it's timeslots like Sunday/Monday night and getting networks to bid for them. Smart move if that's what they're going to do.

:lol: @ "all goes". Really?

 

[nrlnrl]

"Fox Sports executives were not commenting yesterday."

merkins.

they can't really say anything until the IC is formed, then the battle will begin....

I'm sure Fox Sports, plus the FTA's have their plans in place though & the arm wrestles will be interesting to see how the pie is sliced up. Remember it's the right mix of money & how the rights are used - not just keeping others from showing it & dudding the viewers.

 

[Brutus]

lol @ "all goes well"

Who was the dumb merkin who wrote that. I will not click the link to find out.

 

[Raiderdave]

Only way we will get that is if they get every game live, which I hope they do.

if they get every game live they'd have to match the 650 Million they paid for the AFL ... every H&A game including finals ... excluding the Grand Final

then 3 games on FTA
2 Friday 1 live 1 week ... both live every 2nd week
1 Sunday live with a 4pm kick off
350 Million from which ever FTA broadcaster takes this up

the 6.30pm & 8.30pm Sat night kickoffs for finals in week 1 to be scrapped
replaced with 5.30pm & 7.30pm

Rep season to bring in 150 million over the 5 years ... up for any FTA bidder that wants it

on top of this the internet & online rights ... 100 Million plus
& we're looking at as much or a tad more then the AFL got
overseas rights of another 100 Million
& we've got our 1.4 Billion

Sweet ;-)

 

[smithie]

Can't see Fox letting Monday nights go without a fight or Ch10 just going for a Monday night. Ideally it would be Fox sports all games live. Ch10 Fri 2 games, Sunday 2 games live. $1bill straight cash. Telstra can pay $400k for internet and mobile rights plus the NZ money.

Anyone but Telstra for the Internet rights please. Internet rights are worth a hell of a lot more than $400K.

 

[juro]

"Amazingly, 74 of the top 100 pay-TV programs this year have been NRL games."

How is that amazing? Wasn't it 77 last year?? Are they just realising now how well NRL rates on fox???

 

[Quidgybo]

2 Friday 1 live 1 week ... both live every 2nd week

The two hour time difference for Perth games really only opens two timeslots for live coverage that could otherwise never host a live game - 9.30pm Friday and 9.30pm Saturday. As such I'm sure Fox will be after at least half of the Reds home games for their Saturday slot. Secondly, given live games have less room for advertising, a second live game would tend to suit Fox more than one of the commercial networks anyway.

1 Sunday live with a 4pm kick off

Simply has to be a second doubleheader introduced on Sundays. Either two live games or one live and one delayed. Again, I'd expect the networks would push for the second match to remain delayed because the later timeslot will always rate better and will be where they cash in on the advertising.

Leigh

 

[Raiderdave]

Can't see Fox letting Monday nights go without a fight or Ch10 just going for a Monday night. Ideally it would be Fox sports all games live. Ch10 Fri 2 games, Sunday 2 games live. $1bill straight cash. Telstra can pay $400k for internet and mobile rights plus the NZ money.

400K :?.. what , a week :lol:
didn't they pay the AFL 100 Mill (20 Million a year) for online & mobile rights in this next deal

we'd be worth as much for sure

 

[docbrown]

400K :?.. what , a week :lol:
didn't they pay the AFL 100 Mill (20 Million a year) for online & mobile rights in this next deal

we'd be worth as much for sure

If there's 9 games with no simulcasting or no foxtel coverage then definitely.

If it's a mixed split as present, then it becomes moreso about negotiation skills.

 

[carlosthedwarf]

Will be interesting to see how the online rights work. I get a feeling we'll still be blacked out in Australia for live games since Telstra/Foxtel will want to push people to their traditional services.

Media providers in this country are 20 years behind.

 

[NRL-TGG]

"Amazingly, 74 of the top 100 pay-TV programs this year have been NRL games."

How is that amazing? Wasn't it 77 last year?? Are they just realising now how well NRL rates on fox???

Blind freddy knows how better the AFL and Super Rugby rated on paytv this year compared to last year, to still have 74 out of the top 100 shows being NRL that is both an amazing and a great achievement.

 

[sting]

Not sure if this has been mentioned at all, but I feel it is somewhat relevant.

Channel 9 is totally dicking everyone with the Union WC as well.

Nine looks after Friends to delay rugby opener
Tim Dick
September 8, 2011

Behind the ball ... Rugby Union fans will have to wait to watch the World Cup opener after Channel Nine opts to delay telecast. Photo: Getty Images
FOR most Australians, the Rugby World Cup will start late tomorrow night - three hours and 45 minutes tardy to be precise - because the Nine Network prefers to show a repeat of Friends on one channel and Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders on another.

The first game of the year's biggest sporting tournament - featuring the All Blacks, the favourites, against the fast-and-courageous minnows Tonga - kicks off at 6.30pm Sydney time after an opening ceremony in Auckland.

At that time, Nine's main channel will show A Current Affair, then The Big Bang Theory, then in Sydney will turn to live coverage of the rugby league finals match between Wests Tigers and St George Illawarra Dragons at 7.30pm.

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But even with two other channels on which to show the rugby union live, Nine will not, and those without pay TV will have to seek it out at the pub or with friends of their own.

It made a commercial decision to delay the match until 9.45pm in Sydney and Brisbane, immediately after the league finishes, and until 1.40am on Saturday in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth - after the conclusion of Two and a Half Men, The Mentalist, two episodes of CSI and the rugby league.

That is despite it now being allowed to show preliminary Rugby World Cup games on either of its two digital channels, if they don't involve the Wallabies.

As part of the yet-to-be finalised changes to the anti-siphoning rules governing sport on television, the communications minister, Stephen Conroy, declared an interim arrangement late last year.

It requires the Rugby World Cup finals and any Australian game to be shown on the broadcaster's main channel, in this case on Nine. But unlike the old rules, it allows all other games to be shown on its digital channels, Go! and Gem.

Yet while Fox Sports will be broadcasting live from Auckland at 6.30pm on Friday, Gem will be showing the penultimate episode of the tenth series of Friends, which ceased production in 2004, while Go! will be airing the 11-year-old animated tale of ''intergalatic intrigue'' featuring Scooby-Doo.

While advertising rates are much higher on the main channels than on digital ones, Nine decided to ''give it a big audience on the primary channel at 9.45pm, rather than a small audience on a digital channel live''.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...ugby-opener-20110907-1jxw8.html#ixzz1XKbMckd1

While I can see people on here not giving a shit because it's union, it just goes to show how out of touch Channel 9 is, and how little faith they have in either rugby code in any of the non heartland states.

They just don't know how to use sport in general. They barely get a pass mark in cricket, and they fail miserably at everything else. Get them the hell away from our game.

 

[El Diablo]

WWOS Facebook page is copping it from RL and RU fans

in Summer they cop it from cricket fans

9 suck at sport

 

[carlosthedwarf]

It made a commercial decision to delay the match until 9.45pm in Sydney and Brisbane, immediately after the league finishes, and until 1.40am on Saturday in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth - after the conclusion of Two and a Half Men, The Mentalist, two episodes of CSI and the rugby league.

Wow this is disgraceful

 

[Perth Red]

I really don't undertsand their logic in the lack of use of their digital channels. They said the same thing about SOO in Perth, that they felt showing it at 10.30pm on the main channel would be more advantageous to fans than showing it live on the digital channel! Merkins the lot of them, and so are the NRL if they give them the rights again.

 

[NRL-TGG]

They obviously aren't showing on their digital channels in NSW and QLD because doing that will dilute viewers, especially those who watch both sports.

Have no idea what they are doing it in the other states.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Geez they do mess sports around. Hopefully the commisionars see this and act accordingly.

 

[cleary89]

Because it will get like 400k ratings on free to air on delay, would only get 200k or so on the multi channel.

 

[carlosthedwarf]

Because it will get like 400k ratings on free to air on delay, would only get 200k or so on the multi channel.

Yep, sad state of affairs, rating for the main channel is the reason for all of these issues.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Why wouldn't u put it on gem live and replay it on the main channel delayed

You might get 250k + 250 k ie. More people