Tim Moltzen ... (war is over)

[Father Ted]

Finally an admission from the Tigers that their CEO lacks integrity.
Grounds for sacking him, I say.

Is it true that Tim Sheens has the job of sacking CEO's over there?

 

[grouch]

We're not even talking formal release. We are talking about agreement. Humphries clearly said there was no formal agreement. That's not necessarily talking about a signed document. That could mean the a meeting of the minds between Moltzen and the Wests Tigers club. You have no evidence that there ever was said meeting of the minds, other than the fact that Tauber allegedly told Doust that Humphries had unequivocally and unconditionally agreed to release Moltzen. For one your evidence is an assumption and for two, even if Tauber and Moltzen told the Dragons this it doesn't mean it's correct. Nor does it mean that it binds the Tigers who are entitled to say when and how they release Motlzen. For all you know Humphries said to Moltzen, "we want to release you so we can sign Adam Blair, so look around and see what is out there for you". Moltzen tells the Dragons the Tigers are happy to release him, he signs a contract and the Dragons report the signing. Humphries scratches his head - he's never actually formally agreed to release Moltzen or what the terms of the release are.

You have no evidence this didn't occur. You have no evidence of what actually did occur other than Dousts' 'professional' yet partial account of events.

Wow. And I thought this melodrama couldn't be any more boring

 

[Father Ted]

You have no evidence this didn't occur. You have no evidence of what actually did occur other than Dousts' 'professional' yet partial account of events.

Over ruled Counsel will resume his seat

 

[TimmyB]

It's spelled counsel...

 

[Firey_Dragon]

We're not even talking formal release. We are talking about agreement. Humphries clearly said there was no formal agreement. That's not necessarily talking about a signed document. That could mean the a meeting of the minds between Moltzen and the Wests Tigers club. You have no evidence that there ever was said meeting of the minds, other than the fact that Tauber allegedly told Doust that Humphries had unequivocally and unconditionally agreed to release Moltzen. For one your evidence is an assumption and for two, even if Tauber and Moltzen told the Dragons this it doesn't mean it's correct. Nor does it mean that it binds the Tigers who are entitled to say when and how they release Motlzen. For all you know Humphries said to Moltzen, "we want to release you so we can sign Adam Blair, so look around and see what is out there for you". Moltzen tells the Dragons the Tigers are happy to release him, he signs a contract and the Dragons report the signing. Humphries scratches his head - he's never actually formally agreed to release Moltzen or what the terms of the release are.

You have no evidence this didn't occur. You have no evidence of what actually did occur other than Dousts' 'professional' yet partial account of events.

Then Tim and Tauber fraudulently lied to the Dragons, and are financially liable. Unfortunately, the quotes from all and sundry including the coach indicate otherwise to this statement. That is where the NRL need to determine where and what broke down and who is liable.

Fact of the matter is, you don't have any proof to the contrary either. This is a case of he said, she said. What there is proof of is an announcement of a signing and waiting 3 months to say no deal was agreed upon, hardly actions of a club not wanting to release a player, sounds more like a club finding a backup plan. Which I'm sure will come under consideration in the discussions between the NRL and the two clubs.

 

[Father Ted]

It's spelled counsel...

Thanks now sit

 

[Drain the Dragon]

Is it true that Tim Sheens has the job of sacking CEO's over there?

Maybe Tim should tell him he's free to look elsewhere.

And if I were Humpty I'd get that in writing.

 

[Father Ted]

Maybe Tim should tell him he's free to look elsewhere.

And if I were Humpty I'd get that in writing.

Bet you can easily guess which club won't be signing him

 

[Willow]

It's spelled counsel...

And it's spelt Humphreys.

 

[Father Ted]

and it's spelt humphreys.

With a Y are you on this forum with your tigers crap

 

[big pat]

hudson with a 'h'

 

[Willow]

Even if the Dragons go after Moltzen or Tauber I think it's going to be difficult to quantify the harm suffered.

It's subjective to a degree, I agree. But then you seem to contradict yourself.

Can't imagine there'd be significant damages awarded, especially if the Dragons have been offered Brown and have refused.

Don't ever become a lawyer.

So if I offer you a Honda Civic to replace a BMW that I smashed, and you refused, I would be off the hook?

 

[Father Ted]

It's subjective to a degree, I agree. But then you seem to contradict yourself. Don't ever become a lawyer.
?

You mean legal counsel

 

[Willow]

lol.

I can't spell that.

 

[The Nick]

I am shocked that the Dragons are brushing over the fact that the day of the announcement stated that there was no formal agreement to release Moltzen, just discussions with the manager. If Doust didn't contact Humphries to clarify, he's made a pretty big boo boo. Why is it Humphries responsibility to straighten the story out following Doust's blatant disrespect and disregard.

I am shocked that you're brushing over the fact that Moltzen was out negotiating and signing contracts with his manager, despite the fact that Wests Tigers apparently had no intention of releasing him (according to Humphreys and yourself).

I still stand by my theory that Moltzen knows he'll never play Origin, but if he stays at Tigers there's a good chance he'll be handed a Test jersey without having to actually earn it (ala Galloway, Lawrence, Farah etc).

 

[Divine]

spelled counsel...

witchcraft?

 

[The Nick]

I am shocked that you're brushing over the fact that Moltzen was out negotiating and signing contracts with his manager, despite the fact that Wests Tigers apparently had no intention of releasing him (according to Humphreys and yourself).

I still stand by my theory that Moltzen knows he'll never play Origin, but if he stays at Tigers there's a good chance he'll be handed a Test jersey without having to actually earn it (ala Galloway, Lawrence, Farah etc).

Oh, and throw Tuquiri into the mix as well!

 

[Hutty1986]

It's spelled counsel...

If we're talking spelling...

spelled=spelt.

 

[counterpuncher]

So if I offer you a Honda Civic to replace a BMW that I smashed, and you refused, I would be off the hook?

Moltzen = BMW ??? :sarcasm:

 

[Willow]

Well no... us legal experts are just doing some bush lawyering.

Perhaps I should have said a Ford Laser.