Timana Tahu ends union nightmare by returning to Parramatta Eels

[lingard]

This doesnt suprise me coming from you.That comment would put you way out on your own as far as not wanting TT back,maybe youd have a couple of mates agree.

Strangely, I`m not surprised about your comment either. I didn`t say I don`t want Tahu; I said it`s a HUGE gamble. I`m very excited about the prospect of Tahu playing like he did a couple of years ago. I just hope it happens.
Actually, when it was first mooted that we might go after Tahu, I think this forum was split about fifty-fifty on whether it was a good idea or not. But, of course, I would be out on my own, wouldn`t I, Raudonikis?

 

[lingard]

I wouldn't say Sterlo had a great running game.

But he did make use of the run around alot.

So he would pass, run around, get the ball back and pick a runner whether it be Kenny, Ella or Grothe.

Langer was a better runner as was Johns.

Yes, but the point is that Sterling would threaten the line - keep them in two minds, as ALL good half-backs do. Smith NEVER did that. In my mind, Tim Smith is an absolutely unique half-back. I have never seen another half like him. He`s the only one I`ve ever seen who NEVER runs the ball and bases his game ENTIRELY on kicking and passing. He plays exactly like an NFL quarter-back. And that - not his personality - is the the one and only reason I don`t want him back.

 

[strider]

yeah - tim smith has 2 downfalls to his game
1) lack of toughness - he just seems mentally weak most the time and it makes you hesitate
2) the lack of a running game - he was a big success early on because he was an unknown quantity and teams didn't know if he'd run, but then they figured out he rarely runs and started just going the intercepts or pushing the defense to the ball receivers .... he still managed to be effective at times despite this - if he had a running game, he'd be a lethal half

 

[Gronk]

Yes, but the point is that Sterling would threaten the line - keep them in two minds, as ALL good half-backs do. Smith NEVER did that. In my mind, Tim Smith is an absolutely unique half-back. I have never seen another half like him. He`s the only one I`ve ever seen who NEVER runs the ball and bases his game ENTIRELY on kicking and passing. He plays exactly like an NFL quarter-back. And that - not his personality - is the the one and only reason I don`t want him back.

Running the ball is a bit of a myth. Kimmorley has made 3 line breaks this year, yet he's the form 7 in the game.

That doesn't mean that I was Timmy back BTW. ;-)

 

[strider]

Running the ball is a bit of a myth. Kimmorley has made 3 line breaks this year, yet he's the form 7 in the game.

That doesn't mean that I was Timmy back BTW. ;-)

BUT he will run to the line and threaten to run if you don't commit to him - kimmorley is a tough bugger - he will take a hit ... tim could do that too, but he was less likely - and oppositions learnt that

 

[benkustosgrandmother]

Running the ball is a bit of a myth. Kimmorley has made 3 line breaks this year, yet he's the form 7 in the game.

That doesn't mean that I was Timmy back BTW. ;-)

I think what makes Thurston the number one 7 , is the fact he can put the defender in two minds either with his ability to take the line or pass left or right. Already raving about him and he isn't in the blue and gold.

 

[lingard]

Running the ball is a bit of a myth. Kimmorley has made 3 line breaks this year, yet he's the form 7 in the game.

That doesn't mean that I was Timmy back BTW. ;-)

Maybe he hasn`t made many line-breaks, but the point is, he threatens the line. They don`t know whether he`ll run or not. That`s the point.

 

[lingard]

Exactly right Ian, you can't teach people vision.

And skill levels can only be honed to the maximum that an individual possesses.

I disagree. I think you can teach people vision. I just don`t see any evidence that Andrew Johns is any good at doing it.

 

[Stagger eel]

I disagree. I think you can teach people vision. I just don`t see any evidence that Andrew Johns is any good at doing it.

I know for a fact that Andrew Johns specifically told both NSW and Parramatta to make sure they make Billy Slater bend down to pick up the ball in every kick, in other words find the grass with every kick...

I think that's great vision don't you think??

 

[lingard]

I know for a fact that Andrew Johns specifically told both NSW and Parramatta to make sure they make Billy Slater bend down to pick up the ball in every kick, in other words find the grass with every kick...

I think that's great vision don't you think??

It`s one thing to tell somebody something; it`s quite another to be able to teach it to them. Ask any mediocre maths teacher.

 

[Stagger eel]

It`s one thing to tell somebody something; it`s quite another to be able to teach it to them. Ask any mediocre maths teacher.

so did you watch the third origin game? and did you watch our game against Melbourne?

 

[Eels Dude]

I know for a fact that Andrew Johns specifically told both NSW and Parramatta to make sure they make Billy Slater bend down to pick up the ball in every kick, in other words find the grass with every kick...

I think that's great vision don't you think??

He told the halves to find the open paddock? Wow, if a halfback needed someone to specifically tell them to do that, especially against Billy Slater, then they are too stupid to be in first grade let alone an origin side. Andrew Johns may be a very good coach halves but, your reasoning there is very weak.

 

[big boppa eel]

Running the ball is a bit of a myth. Kimmorley has made 3 line breaks this year, yet he's the form 7 in the game.

That doesn't mean that I was Timmy back BTW. ;-)

Smith isn't Kimmorley.

 

[Stagger eel]

He told the halves to find the open paddock? Wow, if a halfback needed someone to specifically tell them to do that, especially against Billy Slater, then they are too stupid to be in first grade let alone an origin side. Andrew Johns may be a very good coach halves but, your reasoning there is very weak.

NO!!!..you need to read my post again, they were told that they must atleast make him bend down to pick up the ball, he saw a deficiency in his game when he needs to do that, it slows his momentum down and is proaned to errors, Slater is one of the few fullbacks who runs at fullspeed when he similtainiously (sp) collects the ball above his waist..

the specific instructions, were when possible kick it along the ground...

 

[Gronk]

Smith isn't Kimmorley.

The context of my post was that you don't have to run the ball to be a great half back. I was not comparing Timmy to Noddy, ya pelican. :roll:

 

[TheRam]

I know for a fact that Andrew Johns specifically told both NSW and Parramatta to make sure they make Billy Slater bend down to pick up the ball in every kick, in other words find the grass with every kick...

I think that's great vision don't you think??

Ke? :lol: Come on Staggs, I would of thought you knew better.

 

[TheRam]

Even allowing for Slater needing to slow down to pick up a ball that is rolling along the turf, that is hardly insightful Staggs. The same could be said about any other fullback in the league, unless of cause they were midgets or Matt Bowen.:lol: Now if you were to say that Johns had pinpointed a way to get Slater out of position and then the kicker could go for a 40/20 with a better chance of success, well then that would truly be insightful. ;-)

 

[yy_cheng]

Even allowing for Slater needing to slow down to pick up a ball that is rolling along the turf, that is hardly insightful Staggs. The same could be said about any other fullback in the league, unless of cause they were midgets or Matt Bowen.:lol: Now if you were to say that Johns had pinpointed a way to get Slater out of position and then the kicker could go for a 40/20 with a better chance of success, well then that would truly be insightful. ;-)

What Johns and Timmy could do was to kick banana kicks. Even for clearing kicks.

They would put a sort of golf slice on it and the ball would move away from the fullback.

I would've said that. Slice it away towards the touch line and make him run in field or actually find touch.

Tim actually did this slice kick when looking for touch and it would gain extra metres.

It was good to see that Morts did one against the storm too. So he is learning as well. Or game enough to try it in a match.

 

[TheRam]

Yes, but that is not insightful either. That is having an ability to kick the ball differently, which would make it harder for anyone to handle and or teaching others to do so also.

 

[Stagger eel]

Even allowing for Slater needing to slow down to pick up a ball that is rolling along the turf, that is hardly insightful Staggs. The same could be said about any other fullback in the league, unless of cause they were midgets or Matt Bowen.:lol: Now if you were to say that Johns had pinpointed a way to get Slater out of position and then the kicker could go for a 40/20 with a better chance of success, well then that would truly be insightful. ;-)

fair enough..

is it anymore insightful than changing our emblem to the RAM??