TLT -RD 12 Friday 19/5 v Trellmit and the Fluffy Bunnies

[eels_fan]

For mine BA is safe for 2023 regardless of any results. We played in the GF last year, he has earned the right to coach out this year at a minimum. No club has sacked a grand final coach in the following season, the concept is preposterous and even you blokes suggesting it know it’s ridiculous.

if we finish bottom 4 this year then I would tell BA that 2024 is his final year irrespective of results, and if by round 8 we are not in the top 8 he is gone immediately. We begin interviews for 2025 this off season with a view to have someone appointed by round 10-12 so they can be part of recruitment and retention for 2025.

 

[the phantom menace]

No club has sacked a grand final coach in the following season, the concept is preposterous and even you blokes suggesting it know it’s ridiculous.

David Waite was sacked by St George during 2000 (announced in May), after they made (and almost won) the grand final in 1999.

 

[eels_fan]

David Waite was sacked by St George during 2000 (announced in May), after they made (and almost won) the grand final in 1999.

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There you go! Proved me wrong.

should probably mention the outlier though - they had just suffered the biggest loss in their history, and their star half quit the club effective immediately.

so I’ll reframe my comments.
if Souths beat us by 69 points or more, and Moses or Dyl Brown quits the club - then BA should be sacked on the basis of precedent.

 

[lucablight]

Waqa has been our worst player from 2020-2023 bar one game. Yet we persevered, persevered and persevered when there were other options but we were reluctant to go there.

He was pretty good in 2021.

 

[hindy111]

If that happens you'll have rubbed your wang into a bloody, lifeless, fleshy pulp.

U r a f**kn dickhead sometimes.

 

[Eelementary]

For mine BA is safe for 2023 regardless of any results. We played in the GF last year, he has earned the right to coach out this year at a minimum. No club has sacked a grand final coach in the following season, the concept is preposterous and even you blokes suggesting it know it’s ridiculous.

if we finish bottom 4 this year then I would tell BA that 2024 is his final year irrespective of results, and if by round 8 we are not in the top 8 he is gone immediately. We begin interviews for 2025 this off season with a view to have someone appointed by round 10-12 so they can be part of recruitment and retention for 2025.

The only issue I have with that approach is that you waste 8 weeks of a season.

I would put it simply - make the 8 in 2023, or don't come back for 2024.

 

[Eelementary]

Its only a 6 pack. Take him up on the 18.

Tbh, this is the kind of game we often turn shit around and win when no f**ker expects us to ..... i dont think we will, but i reckon we will do better than expected .... i dont really think it will be 30

Yeah - it'll be more like 50...

 

[Avenger]

He is currently signed until the end of '25 so IF we were to get the spoon this year, I would sit him down and say that 2024 will be his last year unless he can get us to the GF. If at any time during 2024 it is guaranteed that we will not make the 8, then we would be looking at an immediate replacement. Take it or leave now.

I get your point but there is no need to waste another year. This side is getting nowhere near another GF under him. By most people’s admission here he got very lucky last year anyway and the squad is weaker.

 

[King-Gutho94]

For mine BA is safe for 2023 regardless of any results. We played in the GF last year, he has earned the right to coach out this year at a minimum. No club has sacked a grand final coach in the following season, the concept is preposterous and even you blokes suggesting it know it’s ridiculous.

I agree the club won't sack BA this year.

But didn't Daniel Anderson get sacked in 2010 a year after making the GF.

 

[Snoochies]

I agree the club won't sack BA this year.

But didn't Daniel Anderson get sacked in 2010 a year after making the GF.

From Wiki
On 17 November 2008 Anderson was announced the head coach of the Parramatta Eels NRL squad for three years, beginning in 2009. He guided the Eels to a remarkable 2009 National Rugby League Grand Final from a position where after 18 rounds the Eels were tipped 150/1 to win the NRL. On 25 September 2010, it was announced that Anderson's contract had been terminated with immediate effect by the club, who replaced him with Stephen Kearney.

 

[IFR33K]

I get your point but there is no need to waste another year. This side is getting nowhere near another GF under him. By most people’s admission here he got very lucky last year anyway and the squad is weaker.

I totally agree with you.

they won’t sack him thou. We’ve made the 8 in recent times and the board see that as stability to staying in control.

 

[hineyrulz]

No matter what the results this year Bea is going nowhere, they only just extended him. The idiots on the board have no clue when it comes to RL at all they have convinced themselves he's a super coach. It won't matter how poorly we go between now and the end of 2025 we are stuck with him. It's why the decision to extend him when they did was ridiculous.

 

[Bandwagon]

U r a f**kn dickhead sometimes.

Yet it was in reply to a bloke who hopes we lose every remaining game this season?

 

[Gronk]

No matter what the results this year Bea is going nowhere, they only just extended him. The idiots on the board have no clue when it comes to RL at all they have convinced themselves he's a super coach. It won't matter how poorly we go between now and the end of 2025 we are stuck with him. It's why the decision to extend him when they did was ridiculous.

To be fair, they extended a coach who made the semis 2019, 2020, 2021 and the GF in 2022. If you step away from your bubble, that’s an acceptable result by any metric. You can see that right ?

 

[Wally21]

To be fair, they extended a coach who made the semis 2019, 2020, 2021 and the GF in 2022. If you step away from your bubble, that’s an acceptable result by any metric. You can see that right ?

Using the same objectivity, I think there is no way the club will sack BA this year and perhaps not even next year. Particularly when there is no obvious master coach available.
However, that will mean he will have been th longest serving coach in our history, with no silverware to show for it.
So objectively, should the club continue to persist with a coach that will make semis? If that was the case, Terry Fearnley would have still been coaching in the 80’s and the club would never have hired Jack Gibson.
At some stage, there has to be a realization that near enough is not good enough

 

[Avenger]

To be fair, they extended a coach who made the semis 2019, 2020, 2021 and the GF in 2022. If you step away from your bubble, that’s an acceptable result by any metric. You can see that right ?

Yes I can see why they extended him. Smart play by his agent. However the timing of it coincided with the team falling off a cliff. Not as bad as the extension he received after we were walloped by 50 in 2018 but again it just didn’t seem right.

If we keep losing and miss the 8 it will look like a diabolical decision, if we come close to or come last he should be thrown out on his ear with the squad starting with someone fresh in 2024 because knowing our club they will find another reason to extend him once again.

You just don’t persevere with someone for over a decade without a premiership. It’s as simple as that. The prick teasing must eventually end.

 

[Avenger]

Using the same objectivity, I think there is no way the club will sack BA this year and perhaps not even next year. Particularly when there is no obvious master coach available.
However, that will mean he will have been th longest serving coach in our history, with no silverware to show for it.
So objectively, should the club continue to persist with a coach that will make semis? If that was the case, Terry Fearnley would have still been coaching in the 80’s and the club would never have hired Jack Gibson.
At some stage, there has to be a realization that near enough is not good enough

I think Trent Robinson needs a change and may become available. He isn’t a master coach but he’s up there.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I think Trent Robinson needs a change and may become available. He isn’t a master coach but he’s up there.

I would take Robbo in a heartbeat but uncle Nick wouldn't let him go.

 

[strider]

I think Trent Robinson needs a change and may become available. He isn’t a master coach but he’s up there.

The problem for the roosters is they have just lost ryles, who seemed to be their up and comer. So that might make em keen to try and keep robinson until they can prepare a good replacement

 

[Cloeel]

Yes I can see why they extended him. Smart play by his agent. However the timing of it coincided with the team falling off a cliff. Not as bad as the extension he received after we were walloped by 50 in 2018 but again it just didn’t seem right.

If we keep losing and miss the 8 it will look like a diabolical decision, if we come close to or come last he should be thrown out on his ear with the squad starting with someone fresh in 2024 because knowing our club they will find another reason to extend him once again.

You just don’t persevere with someone for over a decade without a premiership. It’s as simple as that. The prick teasing must eventually end.

Is it a smart play by his agent?

If BA became available on the open market tomorrow would his earning potential and job security at another club be better?