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Valentine Holmes

Inferno

Coach
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Can someone please explain this part of the Sharks official statement to me
"While this is in no way the outcome the Club planned for, there was no option but to grant a release to Holmes."

There was no option?
The club couldn't say "sorry son, you've signed, you play. Chase your next career after 2019" ?
If this was the case and he defied the order wouldn't the NRL, whom he is contracted to, step in?
It all comes across as weak as piss to me, by both player and club.

They didn't have to grant the release, but practically there's nothing they could do. They could sue Val for breach of contract, but the downside is way bigger than any upside. Can't stop him leaving the country to play for another code.

Didn't work with SBW when he walked out on the bulldogs.
 

sharkman73

Juniors
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I don’t get the Gal hate for his comments.

He had every right to be pissed off.
People forget he is also a panelist on a footy tv show where he gets paid for his opinion not just on the Sharks but on the future of the game.

I think he is %100 right when he said blokes who break a contract to swap codes should be banned for X amount of years whatever.
f**k em.

The sharks busted their arse for Val.
Way and above what other players get afforded
( according to the sharkcast )

Yeah thanks for playing great for my team Val but you need to learn a thing or two about other stuff other than footy.

Poor form .

I don't think there's much Gal hate mate, the majority of Sharks' fans agree with him.

And I don't always agree with what Gal says but I love the fact he has an unscripted opinion on things, unlike 99% of the robots that play professional sport these days.

Should be more of it. Lots more.
 

Quicksilver

Bench
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They didn't have to grant the release, but practically there's nothing they could do. They could sue Val for breach of contract, but the downside is way bigger than any upside. Can't stop him leaving the country to play for another code.

Didn't work with SBW when he walked out on the bulldogs.

They got a cash settlement and he was restricted from playing for a competitor for a period of time. That's a better result than nothing.
 

txta2

First Grade
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The Rat is a money grabbing scum bag. Even tricks his mates into pyramid schemes. Titans still owe him coin as well haha
 

txta2

First Grade
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They didn't have to grant the release, but practically there's nothing they could do. They could sue Val for breach of contract, but the downside is way bigger than any upside. Can't stop him leaving the country to play for another code.

Didn't work with SBW when he walked out on the bulldogs.
And this is where Greenberg has to show some balls. By mid season next year Val will have an idea if he can make it.
He won't be at the Cows next year because the Sharks could sue the NRL. Butttt releasing him from contract does not help their cause
 
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If Sharks dont have a registered contract by june 30, Holmes can play anywhere.
If Sharks cant pay him & remain under the cap(say we get johnson) he can play anywhere.
Holmes has already signed(letter of intent from both) for N.Qld for 2020.
Holmes always was, always will be a self serving merkin , playing a team sport.
You never win against the Orrs.
 

MilkShark

First Grade
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If Sharks dont have a registered contract by june 30, Holmes can play anywhere.
If Sharks cant pay him & remain under the cap(say we get johnson) he can play anywhere.
Holmes has already signed(letter of intent from both) for N.Qld for 2020.
Holmes always was, always will be a self serving merkin , playing a team sport.
You never win against the Orrs.
f**k him, sign Barba or someone else, holmes aint ever coming back here.
 

Quigs

Immortal
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(okay it's the offseason, lets do it )

Yeah his old man Johnny, on thing you always could rely on bout the old man. He always put his best foot forward.
 

M2D2

Bench
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Holmes is not coming back (to aus) in 2019.
I dont know how many times you f**kers need to be told.
The NFL season doesnt start til the latter half of the year.
Hes going to be spending nearly a year training.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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43,120
Holmes is not coming back (to aus) in 2019.
I dont know how many times you f**kers need to be told.
The NFL season doesnt start til the latter half of the year.
Hes going to be spending nearly a year training.

Unless he gets there and his missus can’t handle it.
 

King Ben

Juniors
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Val asks for release, Cronulla immediately grant it.
Klemmer asks for release, Bulldogs say no until they find a replacement.
Widdop asks for a release, Dragons expected to say no.
Johnson asks for a release, Warriors say no.
 
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Val asks for release, Cronulla immediately grant it.
Klemmer asks for release, Bulldogs say no until they find a replacement.
Widdop asks for a release, Dragons expected to say no.
Johnson asks for a release, Warriors say no.

Sharks did the right thing Ben.

Last thing you want is a media circus surrounding your Club every week.

That shyte kills any chance of success for a Club.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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Ha
f**k me he can do whatever the f**k he likes as long as it’s not playing NRL while contracted to us.
Like gordie
Like SBW
 

King Ben

Juniors
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Valentine Holmes’ departure from the Sharks has been painted as relatively rosy by some, but it was anything but.

The Sharks are increasingly convinced American football has been Holmes’ plan for a while. And in that time the likes of Jesse Ramien (Newcastle) and Ricky Leutele (Toronto Wolfpack) have left the club. That has annoyed the playing group, but that may not be the main issue.

The Sharks were left with no option when it came to Holmes. A club official told me that from the moment Holmes was in the US testing himself in front of scouts, he knew he wanted to have a crack at the NFL. Holmes’ management approached the Sharks and said he was quitting. If the club had said no, Holmes was going to sit out the season. No discussion were necessary.

It took the club by surprise as they had thrown the biggest offer at Holmes that they had ever made to a player. The club was insulted and disappointed to say the least.

The Sharks approached the NRL about the issue and were basically told they could challenge it, but it would be a legal fight. The club wasn’t prepared for that.

The Sharks also gave Holmes a $100,000 payment as an incentive to sign on long-term. That gave the club confidence he could stay.

They asked for that payment to be returned pronto when Holmes announced he was leaving. It was.

The Sharks also asked that Holmes’ partner leave her job at the club, but she left on good terms. She attended the Sharks’ Christmas party.

If Cronulla appear weak for not challenging Holmes it is because they knew of his conviction to leave and didn’t want a legal battle. Instead they took the long-term approach. Holmes has to return to the club if he flops during the period covered by his previous Sharks contract. The problem for the club will be fitting him under their cap as they have signed Shaun Johnson.

They also have an undertaking that Holmes will promote the Sharks brand during his US journey. Be sure Holmes will have a lot of ground to make up with the playing group if he ever did return.

From the Herald.
 

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