West Coast Pirates Bid News

[Perth Red]

Ad hominem is personal attack like calling somebody a child - u only do that when ur losing an argument.

Straw man is extrapolating someone's argument like when donkey said storm were a failure at player development & ur gang responded with: "how call u call a multiple premiership team a failure?!"

Deflection is talking superleague vs Arl attendance when the issue is how bad reds crowds were..

And
cherry picking is when you pick out one data set out of many to justify a biased position

irrelevance is when you use an argument that has no relationship to the here and now

Erroneous means when you’re wrong or just being a dumb arse

 

[Colk]

Great, raise ur game..

I don’t need to raise mine. When you start posting facts then we can talk about raising games.

 

[Pippen94]

And
cherry picking is when you pick out one data set out of many to justify a biased position

irrelevance is when you use an argument that has no relationship to the here and now

Erroneous means when you’re wrong or just being a dumb arse

..lol, like that jpg of Perth crowd from 2016 u keep posting?!

 

[Maximus]

I said reds had lowest average attendance in superleague.

No you didn't.

 

[Perth Red]

..lol, like that jpg of Perth crowd from 2016 u keep posting?!

there’s always the pic of last years 43k crowd lol

 

[Bukowski]

I know what they mean d******. I am having a go at you.

He's a bit dim old pippen. It won't be long till he needs another rest from this place.

 

[Pippen94]

He's a bit dim old pippen. It won't be long till he needs another rest from this place.

The fact you want me to leave & have only insults left shows I'm doing my job; exposing old superleague mentality

 

[BuffaloRules]

The fact you want me to leave & have only insults left shows I'm doing my job; exposing old superleague mentality

Is he insulting you… or just a bit concerned ?

You have needed to take breaks from here in the past…so he is probably just keeping an eye out for your welfare …

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So you're attacking the Storm for being backed by News and then post an article which incriminates the Broncos and Cowboys aswell

by the way, can you maybe dig up articles that are less than 10 years old? these are from 2013 and 2007

Why do the articles need to be less than 10 years old?

We're talking about what happened between 1998 and 2018. An article from that period is relevant to the subject.

Cowboys and Broncos were profitable. Storm weren't.

 

[Bukowski]

Is he insulting you… or just a bit concerned ?

You have needed to take breaks from here in the past…so he is probably just keeping an eye out for your welfare …

Nothing sadder than an old angry man who wants to argue about events from almost 30 years ago.
He's having a harder time getting out of the 90s than Kurt Cobain.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It shows the potential. Realising that potential will require an nrl license and a well run club.

If a "well run club" equates to the same advantages the Storm were gifted then it's a pie in the sky dream. What happened with the Storm will never be replicated.

no arguments from me but until we have rectangular sports clubs that justify that level of govt spend it is what it is.

The Force averaged 27k fans at Subiaco during their early years. If that wasn't enough to warrant an upgrade of Perth Rectangular Stadium to 30k -- with modern facilities -- then I fail to see how an NRL club will change things. You're just going to have to place the blame for Perth's poor infrastructure where it belongs. The WA Gov. You won't lay the blame where it belongs because it goes against your anti-NRL/pro-Perth agenda.

Hopefully if nrl is serious about perth then that is one of the non negotiables they are asking the wa govt for.

If the WA Gov is serious about an NRL licence -- and the three sports that will benefit from a modern rectangular stadium -- then it would have upgraded PRS years ago. It's not the NRL's job to bring the WA Gov into the 21st century.

the southern stand is designed for addition of an a
extra 1000 seats and a roof adding.

Why hasn't te WA Gov pulled its finger out and finished the upgrade?

@Bukowski is always gloating about how much money is in Perth. Try using some of it to bring the city into the 21st century.

The main priority is anew western main corporate stand.

Why hasn't the WA Gov built one?

North stand can stay as is for now,
I like the novelty of the shed end. Another $120-150mill should do it.

If the northern stand can stay because you like it then stop criticising Sydney grounds for having hills.

to call it a dump when it’s already had $150mill spent on it is laughable and shows your ignorance.

Calling it a dump is an accurate description of what it is.

The Queensland Gov spent money on QEII Stadium 20 years to convert its bench seats to bucket seats and improve its infrastructure. It didn't change the fact it was -- and still is -- a dump. Lang Park also received plenty of upgrades between the 1980s and 2001. It was still a dump until it was demolished and rebuilt. You just cannot accept any criticism of Perth's flaws. When people point out where Perth is behind you resort to calling them "ignorant" for refusing to turn a blind eye. You don't hesitate to bad mouth every other city for its shortcomings. But when it's Perth everyone has to pretend it's all rosy.

It’s fine for what it needs to be now, provides undercover seating for most and generates a great atmosphere when over half full. Come and see for yourself one day lol

It should have been converted into a modern stadium 15 years ago when the Force were pulling 27k at Subiaco.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nothing sadder than an old angry man who wants to argue about events from almost 30 years ago.
He's having a harder time getting out of the 90s than Kurt Cobain.

Perth Red has been angrily arguing about the Western Reds' axing for the last 20 years.

 

[Bukowski]

Jesus, now it's events 25 years ago in other sports and other cities.

 

[Canard]

If a "well run club" equates to the same advantages the Storm were gifted then it's a pie in the sky dream. What happened with the Storm will never be replicated.



The Force averaged 27k fans at Subiaco during their early years. If that wasn't enough to warrant an upgrade of Perth Rectangular Stadium to 30k -- with modern facilities -- then I fail to see how an NRL club will change things. You're just going to have to place the blame for Perth's poor infrastructure where it belongs. The WA Gov. You won't lay the blame where it belongs because it goes against your anti-NRL/pro-Perth agenda.



If the WA Gov is serious about an NRL licence -- and the three sports that will benefit from a modern rectangular stadium -- then it would have upgraded PRS years ago. It's not the NRL's job to bring the WA Gov into the 21st century.



Why hasn't te WA Gov pulled its finger out and finished the upgrade?

@Bukowski is always gloating about how much money is in Perth. Try using some of it to bring the city into the 21st century.



Why hasn't the WA Gov built one?



If the northern stand can stay because you like it then stop criticising Sydney grounds for having hills.



Calling it a dump is an accurate description of what it is.

The Queensland Gov spent money on QEII Stadium 20 years to convert its bench seats to bucket seats and improve its infrastructure. It didn't change the fact it was -- and still is -- a dump. Lang Park also received plenty of upgrades between the 1980s and 2001. It was still a dump until it was demolished and rebuilt. You just cannot accept any criticism of Perth's flaws. When people point out where Perth is behind you resort to calling them "ignorant" for refusing to turn a blind eye. You don't hesitate to bad mouth every other city for its shortcomings. But when it's Perth everyone has to pretend it's all rosy.



It should have been converted into a modern stadium 15 years ago when the Force were pulling 27k at Subiaco.

Pure gibberish

There is faeces strewn across public toilet walls that makes more sense then post

 

[MugaB]

Probably best to check your facts before telling someone to "keep up"

Facts are great, but we are talking about the 7 clubs colk pointed out

 

[Maximus]

Facts are great, but we are talking about the 7 clubs colk pointed out

Penrith is right there in the post. I even highlighted it for you.

 

[Perth Red]

If a "well run club" equates to the same advantages the Storm were gifted then it's a pie in the sky dream. What happened with the Storm will never be replicated.



The Force averaged 27k fans at Subiaco during their early years. If that wasn't enough to warrant an upgrade of Perth Rectangular Stadium to 30k -- with modern facilities -- then I fail to see how an NRL club will change things. You're just going to have to place the blame for Perth's poor infrastructure where it belongs. The WA Gov. You won't lay the blame where it belongs because it goes against your anti-NRL/pro-Perth agenda.



If the WA Gov is serious about an NRL licence -- and the three sports that will benefit from a modern rectangular stadium -- then it would have upgraded PRS years ago. It's not the NRL's job to bring the WA Gov into the 21st century.



Why hasn't te WA Gov pulled its finger out and finished the upgrade?

@Bukowski is always gloating about how much money is in Perth. Try using some of it to bring the city into the 21st century.



Why hasn't the WA Gov built one?



If the northern stand can stay because you like it then stop criticising Sydney grounds for having hills.



Calling it a dump is an accurate description of what it is.

The Queensland Gov spent money on QEII Stadium 20 years to convert its bench seats to bucket seats and improve its infrastructure. It didn't change the fact it was -- and still is -- a dump. Lang Park also received plenty of upgrades between the 1980s and 2001. It was still a dump until it was demolished and rebuilt. You just cannot accept any criticism of Perth's flaws. When people point out where Perth is behind you resort to calling them "ignorant" for refusing to turn a blind eye. You don't hesitate to bad mouth every other city for its shortcomings. But when it's Perth everyone has to pretend it's all rosy.



It should have been converted into a modern stadium 15 years ago when the Force were pulling 27k at Subiaco.

Won’t need storm level of success, just dont suck like the force do lol

again we have a rectangular stadium fit for purpose for today and the two teams in secondary competitions that use it. The wa govt spent $1.2billion building a sports stadium for big sports events.

if and when perth gets an nrl team then hopefully phase 2 of hbf park happens. As a tax payer I dont want them Wasting money on facilities that arent needed. we have optus for big events and hbf for smaller ones and more than adequate for the two sub 15k crowd tenants. if nrl are not demanding a new west stand as part of a license awarding agreement they are cooked. But this is the nrl Who are generally clueless about leveraging govt for new stadiums.

the northern stand is a mix of seating and covered terracing. It’s not a grass Hill from the 1970’s lol
I’d like to see the shed terracing extended and a new cantilever roof put over it all eventually to finish the stadium off. a nice big Tampa bay Style pirate ship in the corner would be cool as well!

 

[Pippen94]

Won’t need storm level of success, just dont suck like the force do lol

again we have a rectangular stadium fit for purpose for today and the two teams in secondary competitions that use it. The wa govt spent $1.2billion building a sports stadium for big sports events.

if and when perth gets an nrl team then hopefully phase 2 of hbf park happens. As a tax payer I dont want them Wasting money on facilities that arent needed. we have optus for big events and hbf for smaller ones and more than adequate for the two sub 15k crowd tenants. if nrl are not demanding a new west stand as part of a license awarding agreement they are cooked. But this is the nrl Who are generally clueless about leveraging govt for new stadiums.

the northern stand is a mix of seating and covered terracing. It’s not a grass Hill from the 1970’s lol
I’d like to see the shed terracing extended and a new cantilever roof put over it all eventually to finish the stadium off. a nice big Tampa bay Style pirate ship in the corner would be cool as well!

No backer

 

[Pippen94]

Pure gibberish

There is faeces strewn across public toilet walls that makes more sense then post

Jesus, now it's events 25 years ago in other sports and other cities.

Is he insulting you… or just a bit concerned ?

You have needed to take breaks from here in the past…so he is probably just keeping an eye out for your welfare …

These guys are rattled. Name calling & abuse are the last resort of the desperate

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Won’t need storm level of success, just dont suck like the force do lol

The Perth Glory are a good example of the difficulties looming for the Pirates.

The Glory's support amongst the public skyrocketed in the late 1990s. Between 1998 and 2004 they were the most successful team in the NSL. Attendances of 14k were common.

When the A-League replaced the NSL, the Glory struggled on and off the field. They lost their major sponsor and attendances dropped to under 10k. Around the country, attendances in Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney sky rocketed.

Perth Glory FC - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

A-League Men attendance - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

True Glory Days: the Perth Glory Story 2001-2004 - Football Hall of Fame WA

It is 25 years since Perth Glory took the national football league by storm. Here’s part four of our tribute to the club that changed football in Western

footballhalloffamewa.com.au

Wildcats have been the dominant team in the NBL since the 1990s. They made the finals for 35 years straight. The jury is still out on how many of their supporters will stick around when their success dries up.

Scorchers have won 5 titles in the BBL's 12 seasons.

What will happen to them when they struggle on the field, like the Brisbane Heat?

Force are another example of how hard things will be for the Pirates. Force were drawing 27k to their games. Now they're lucky to get 10k.

again we have a rectangular stadium fit for purpose for today and the two teams in secondary competitions that use it.

FIFA decided it wasn't good enough for the women's soccer world cup finals. They were right to shun the dump.

The wa govt spent $1.2billion building a sports stadium for big sports events.

Ovals provide a terrible viewing experience for spectators and are an eyesore on TV.

The NRL and ARLC devalue the sport every time they host a big match at an oval.

if and when perth gets an nrl team then hopefully phase 2 of hbf park happens.

How about the WA Gov bring PRS up to standard before they bid for a team?

Their refusal to provide adequate facilities for an NRL team proves they have a great deal of contempt for our game. The ARLC would be crazy to award a licence to a market that is so hostile to our game.

As a tax payer I dont want them Wasting money on facilities that arent needed.

I don't give a f**k what you want.

As a rugby league fan from Brisbane I don't want to see the game waste its resources on a dyed-in-the-wool fumbleball market that thinks our game isn't good enough to have a 21st stadium.

we have optus for big events and hbf for smaller ones and more than adequate for the two sub 15k crowd tenants.

Ovals are terrible for rugby league. FIFA avoids them for good reason.

Force were drawing 27k at Subiaco, BTW.

if nrl are not demanding a new west stand as part of a license awarding agreement they are cooked.

The fact WA Gov is demanding an NRL team and Magic Round, despite not having an adequate stadium, is a good reason to ignore Perth.

But this is the nrl Who are generally clueless about leveraging govt for new stadiums.

Isn't V'landys leveraging Albo for a PNG team?

the northern stand is a mix of seating and covered terracing. It’s not a grass Hill from the 1970’s lol
I’d like to see the shed terracing extended and a new cantilever roof put over it all eventually to finish the stadium off. a nice big Tampa bay Style pirate ship in the corner would be cool as well!

It's a shithole.