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What if Jarryd Hayne doesn't make the 49ers cut? Will he return to the NRL?

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He had one chance to do anything in the whole game and lost his footing. Hardly a failure on his part. He got two runs effectively out of position and was asked to run into a brick wall twice. The other was just a catch. Its not his fault he was given no time and the appalling performance of the team as a whole probably helps his chances if anything because none of the players ahead of him or competing with him did much to impress. The bloke is doing fine for a rookie so far.
 

adamkungl

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49ers were poop, Hayne had very little opportunity to make an impact. Other players who touched the ball almost every play contributed similar amounts... sfa. QB Kaepernick had a shocker
 
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Jarryd only has to keep in the active playing roster to be successful in season 1. That means that he has to not make too many blunders (e.g. fumbles) and do some very good things from time to time. That will seal his position. Lucky that he has an open minded and decent man as his coach.

I expect in season 2 of his NFL career Jarryd Hayne will start to make waves in the NFL.
 

mxlegend99

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Watching this game i learned a few things about the rules. Didn't realise a touchdown was as complicated as it is. I thought simply catching the ball or having the ball over the line was a touchdown. Watched a couple of pre-season games and didn't pick it up before now.

All thanks to the 2 disallowed touch downs to 49ers and another that was reviewed but not overturned. I thought they had 2 touchdowns that were not to be.

Hayne gets barely an opportunities to take the field. Getting only one shot at kick or punt returns a game and a couple of touches as a running back with his hopeless teammates just isn't going to be enough to prove he deserves more game time. Worst part is many of his teammates had opportunities they did nothing with that you know he could have done better in their position. But them sucking still doesn't get him game time.

I think his NFL career will be over quickly. He seems to be falling out of favour and won't get the opportunity to redeem himself.
 

WaznTheGreat

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So many RB's this week had terrible rushing averages of 3 and less so anyone criticising Hayne is a f**king genius,last seasons leader rusher Demarco Murray went 13 carries today for 2 yards for a average of 0.2

Dafuq outta here s**ts
 

Tommy Smith

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The issue isn't Hayne's ability. It's whether or not he gets given the opportunity to shine.

I know it's only game 2 but it's not out of the question to assume that Hayne will continue to receive limited opportunities. Unfairly so.

I find that American coaches are stuck in their ways and the opinion that Jarryd is just "a great story but nothing more" might stick. Similar to Kickalicious (research him).

I hope I'm wrong though.

I'd just hate to see him waste his prime years as a minor role player in the NFL when he'd probably be the best player in league alongside JT.
 

nrlnrl

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The game against the Steelers was a reality check for the 49ers. Please remember that they were very competitive against the Patriots the week before whilst the Vikings are one of the worst teams in the NFL. The 49ers are also a team in transitional mode.

People saying that Hayne would've done better than other players is silly. No-one knows how he would've gone. He might've done better, he might've done worse. Did anyone predict that he'd drop that first punt last week ? His success can also be heavily dictated by players on his team with a great block, they might slip or hesitate. Then there's the opponent who might make an error or a great play. There are so many moving parts on each play.

Please remember the success he had in the pre-season was against & with mostly 2nd/3rd & 4th string players. Now that the comp has started everything changes - tactics, situations in games, the skill level of players & the intensity of those players.

Opportunities for him are completely out of his control when a team like the Steelers doesn't have to punt very much or even if he's running back, the 49ers struggle to make ground through running plays - either through poor offense or excellent defence.

Then there's always luck playing a part with injuries - either short or long term, plus the game situation when his team finally has the ball ( for more than just 3 & out ) & can make a few first downs, they are chasing points & it might be easier for them to do so with a passing game.
 

Firey_Dragon

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The issue isn't Hayne's ability. It's whether or not he gets given the opportunity to shine.

I know it's only game 2 but it's not out of the question to assume that Hayne will continue to receive limited opportunities. Unfairly so.
Unfairly so? That's the sport, you need to make every play count because you have such limited opportunities. He's not a better RB than Hyde or Bush, so he has to wait to get his shot. On PR/KR he needs to make sure he doesn't make mistakes or they will use someone else.

The NFL is brutal with cutting players, Hayne doesn't deserve any more or less opportunity than a rookie out of college. It's the nature of the beast.

To date, he hasn't done anything to guarantee an active position. His PR/KR has had limited yardage and two screw ups, people get cut for that all the time. At RB, he's had a single good 7 yard gain, again, no guarantee on his spot.

I find that American coaches are stuck in their ways and the opinion that Jarryd is just "a great story but nothing more" might stick. Similar to Kickalicious (research him).
It's a different sport to rugby league, coaches are stuck in their ways, because you have 48 players active on any given day, most guys see limited time on the field. You take notice of every single play. You don't get 80 minutes to make up for any mistakes. Currently on KR/PR he has a ~25% error rate and at RB averaging around 2 yards per carry. If an NRL player 'averaged' that in their 2 opening games, they too would be on shaky ground.


I hope I'm wrong though.

I'd just hate to see him waste his prime years as a minor role player in the NFL when he'd probably be the best player in league alongside JT.
Agreed, with that said, he's probably making more now in endorsements than he did in the NRL.
 

Firey_Dragon

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49ers were poop, Hayne had very little opportunity to make an impact. Other players who touched the ball almost every play contributed similar amounts... sfa. QB Kaepernick had a shocker

Funnily enough Kaep was one of their best players IMO. He was let down by the O-line massively, every play was a scramble. Then when he did deliver passes in good position, the WR's would drop them.

He's actually looking a lot more composed than he did last year and picking his runs much better. The 49er's are just a poor side with many deficiencies.
 

POPEYE

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Great result for Hayne, imagine how bad he'd feel if the score was reversed, his ego will still be intact
 
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I'm just amazed how some people have reported this. "Hayne will get cut, his career is on the ropes, he'll ask for a release" etc etc. People need a reality check. The NFL has over the last decade undergone a transformation, it is more of a passing league than a running league these days. As such more passing plays are being called than running plays. That is a fact.

Second and most important, once the 49ers fell behind, the running backs were not going to get much of an opportunity. Reason is when teams fall behind, they are after quick points so they will tend to throw the ball more often than call for a running play. The Steelers lead by 26 points at half time, as such you could tell they would run the ball more as that would help them eat up time, whereas the 49ers would throw more to save time.

Quite frankly I think people need to chill out.
 

unforgiven

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I'm just amazed how some people have reported this. "Hayne will get cut, his career is on the ropes, he'll ask for a release" etc etc. People need a reality check. The NFL has over the last decade undergone a transformation, it is more of a passing league than a running league these days. As such more passing plays are being called than running plays. That is a fact.

Second and most important, once the 49ers fell behind, the running backs were not going to get much of an opportunity. Reason is when teams fall behind, they are after quick points so they will tend to throw the ball more often than call for a running play. The Steelers lead by 26 points at half time, as such you could tell they would run the ball more as that would help them eat up time, whereas the 49ers would throw more to save time.

Quite frankly I think people need to chill out.

This is a very good post, Jarryd's opportunities were limited due to the game situation. The steelers also very rarely had to punt giving very few chances for hayne to return. Hayne needs to limit is mistakes when he get opportunities and he will still be fine. The NFL is punishes players heavily for mistakes. A good example of this was shown in the Bengals v Chargers game yesterday where the Bengals benched their number 1 RB after he fumbled twice. This guy had the 2nd highest rushing yards for a rookie in franchise history last year and they benched him. He did not play another down in the game even when they needed him to close out the game. I'll also add that one of his fumbles yesterday was a referee error.
 
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POPEYE

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I just tried to watch the game, how anyone who has not undergone the brainwashing necessary to condition themselves putting up with the stoppages and lack of actual player participation in the circus can sit through it is beyond me

Surely any League devotee can see ways of getting the ball across the line the Yanks don't even contemplate, I'd hate to see our game played without peripheral vision
 
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