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What if Jarryd Hayne doesn't make the 49ers cut? Will he return to the NRL?

fourplay

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does the NFL have reserves or a feeder team? i'm thinking even if hayne was on the practice squad, he's never going to improve unless he actually gets some form of game time, and if he's a liability for the main team then he'd benefit from playing at a lower level.

They don't so it is just geniused. For all we know he is already developed enough and is a GOAT MvP but we won't ever know because he doesn't get a chance. That's just how NFL is. It's not that uncommon in the NFL for players to be deemed not good enough and left out of game day squads and then later in their career when given a chance they become superstars.
 

Danish

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Constantly hearing 'he wasn't given a chance'

He was given a chance. And he was crap.


He only got the option to return a handful of punts in 6 games, and maybe a half dozen downs at RB.

He certainly wasn't offered the same chances as Davis, for example.
 

emesssea

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They don't so it is just geniused. For all we know he is already developed enough and is a GOAT MvP but we won't ever know because he doesn't get a chance. That's just how NFL is. It's not that uncommon in the NFL for players to be deemed not good enough and left out of game day squads and then later in their career when given a chance they become superstars.

There is not one professional sports league where that doesnt happen.

At the end of the day with how intense college football is, there is no need for the NFL to have its own development league. So the moral of the story is if you want to come to the US and be an NFL player, get here early, and start in college. That strategy seems to be working pretty well for some of your basketball players.
 

Parra

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That is the way. And if they play their cards right they come out of it with a degree and a shot at a pro sport career.

Here the complaints are generally about 'life after football'.
 

God-King Dean

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You are constantly hearing it because it's true.

He only got the option to return a handful of punts in 6 games, and maybe a half dozen downs at RB.

He certainly wasn't offered the same chances as Davis, for example.

He was put in the team as a PRer.

He had 8 punt returns. He fumbled 3 of them.
Let that sink in for a minute....

On top of that, when he was put in at RB, he had no idea how to block, one of which led directly to a sack.

If you live in a fairy land if you think this is acceptable. This isn't the Hayne show that revolves around him learning.
 

Parra

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On top of that, when he was put in at RB, he had no idea how to block, one of which led directly to a sack.

No matter how many times that is repeated, it is still bullshit. Devey screwed up and the QB was sacked. Hardly an isolated incident for the 49ers online, particularly the right hand side.
Don't worry about RB's that can't block if you have an online that can't block.
 

Brutus

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Stop wasting your time over there Hayne.

The Ipswich Jets would love you to play Walker Ball in 2016.
 

nick87

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No matter how many times that is repeated, it is still bullshit. Devey screwed up and the QB was sacked. Hardly an isolated incident for the 49ers online, particularly the right hand side.
Don't worry about RB's that can't block if you have an online that can't block.

Hayne missed that block the same as the RG did. As i told you before, his job as a blocker in that play is to clean up the mess from the OL and keep his QB clean... he didnt get a f**king glove on the guy

He screwed up mate, plain and simple. I dont know why you are trying to shift the blame. I can guarantee you the coaches arent giving Hayne a free pass on that play. Both Hayne and the RG would have been credited with a sack allowed by their coaching staff.
 
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Card Shark

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I know f**k all about the game / tactics of NFL. What I do know is that American sport is very, very cut throat - much more so than we are used to.

I think it's great that Hayne has had a shot at it but from what I've read from those in here that know the game, he's made some big blunders (uncharacteristic with his handling) that have cost him & his team.

Hope he can get a chance to redeem himself. If he doesn't, I think his venture can still considered a success because be got to play NFL, & that's no mean feat.
 

Parra

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Hayne missed that block the same as the RG did. As i told you before, his job as a blocker in that play is to clean up the mess from the OL and keep his QB clean... he didnt get a f**king glove on the guy

He screwed up mate, plain and simple. I dont know why you are trying to shift the blame. I can guarantee you the coaches arent giving Hayne a free pass on that play. Both Hayne and the RG would have been credited with a sack allowed by their coaching staff.

No free pass - but there's more to it as you've outlined. Hayne failed to adjust to someone else's screw up. A top notch RB may have adjusted. Point is the niners have let in sack after sack and to point this instance out above all others shows - well no sack at all.
 

Parra

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I know f**k all about the game / tactics of NFL. What I do know is that American sport is very, very cut throat - much more so than we are used to.

I think it's great that Hayne has had a shot at it but from what I've read from those in here that know the game, he's made some big blunders (uncharacteristic with his handling) that have cost him & his team.

Hope he can get a chance to redeem himself. If he doesn't, I think his venture can still considered a success because be got to play NFL, & that's no mean feat.

His handling blunders have been much more basic - that is the real telling point for him. Also poor decisions in general - he has caught a couple that he should've let go as well as gone for some that he should've let go.

As a positive, each time he has made a mistake in attack he has done it trying to make a play. Which is a lot more than you can say for some others on his team.
 

Firey_Dragon

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No free pass - but there's more to it as you've outlined. Hayne failed to adjust to someone else's screw up. A top notch RB may have adjusted. Point is the niners have let in sack after sack and to point this instance out above all others shows - well no sack at all.

You're forgetting his 20% error rate on special teams. They never rated him at RB, hence his minimal amount of snaps. His special teams performance was the only thing keeping him in the 53 man squad, and it simply wasn't very good.

Interesting times, personally given that he was signed to the PS, it's looking likely that his time at the 49ers is nearing its end. It looks like he'll need to find another team before we see him in the NFL again based on the 49ers injuries and reluctance to still move him back into the roster.
 

mxlegend99

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His NFL career is over. Even if he gets back into the team he's still playing in a poorly coached side that won't take risks and only kicks the odd field goal to get them on the board. He will only improve by playing and learning from his mistakes. His issue is a lack of game experience at all prior to this year. Unlike other PS players.

Hayne is written off as a non factor who did nothing. Yet his 1st down on 3rd and 1 for a touch down moments later is still a bigger play than the current team is capable of. Not to mention his punt return that also led to a TD. Those non factor plays helped his team get TDs. Which cis a bigger achievement then some give credit for in that hopeless team.

Those plays might not be good at other teams. But they're certainly better than what the 49ers are capable of without him. He also came up with those plays in limited time on the field. If they gave him more time it certainly couldn't make them any worse than they are now. But he might have more moments like those to atleast give the team something to cheer about.
 

Sleep

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He's been involved in 17 plays for 5 fumbles. Turnovers are huge in the NFL. A 27 year old rookie doesn't scream investment. He'll be lucky to have a team next year.
 

nick87

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No free pass - but there's more to it as you've outlined. Hayne failed to adjust to someone else's screw up. A top notch RB may have adjusted. Point is the niners have let in sack after sack and to point this instance out above all others shows - well no sack at all.

Absolutely you've given him a free pass. You're completely absolving him for whiffing badly in pass protection which lead to his QB being sacked. Any RB worth some salt would have seen the RG miss and step into his place and put a body in the way. Hayne didnt see it, he couldnt read the line play at all, and as a result a rusher came complete free, waltz right back the guard and Hayne barely even noticed him come through.

You cant have that. You just cant. That's a horrendous play all around, and Hayne has his prints all over it.

He isnt a very good runner out of the back field. He cant pass protect. And he's turning the ball over on returns. I mean until that changes, you cant expect coaches to trust him enough to put him on the park.

Hopefully he stays on the San Fran Practice Squad for the rest of the year, and maybe next pre season he'll have developed a bit more and is able to contribute positively to his team
 
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