What if Jarryd Hayne doesn't make the 49ers cut? Will he return to the NRL?

[Lambretta]

Has Hayne done everything there is to do in league?

No.

And the top of the list is to win a premiership. Just ask most players.

Agreed, and I understand that

But you can't challenge yourself to win a Premiership other than by electing to play for a team that has a genuine chance

Had he stayed at Parramatta that would never have happened

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Funny that, then people make the opposite argument about SBW when all the evidence suggests he's the same

The other two didn't just walk out on their team mates mid-season, mid-contract without even telling anyone, only to come back and play for their biggest rivals just a few years later.

That evidence certainly does not suggest he's "the same".

 

[MrAnonymous]

He was never going to make at this age. He has the same athletic ability as every other merkin and never played the game. Likewise of beckham jr or jordy nelson came to the nrl id doubt they would make it.

Did amazing to do what he did and he might still have a decent career nfl but I think his best option is to come back to the nrl.

 

[Parra Pride]

You can't "challenge" yourself to win a Premiership
Unless you've not noticed, Rugby League is a team game

Individuals don't challenge themselves to win team awards, because it's impossible

Yet he would have done that had a bunch of cheating scumbags not been massive cheating scumbag merkins in 2009.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Yet he would have done that had a bunch of cheating scumbags not been massive cheating scumbag merkins in 2009.

In the five seasons after 2009, Hayne was so depressed about Melbourne's cheating he couldn't ever reach that lofty level of excellence again.

 

[edabomb]

Yet he would have done that had a bunch of cheating scumbags not been massive cheating scumbag merkins in 2009.

Tell that to Channel 9. They seem to think Brett Finch is a Premiership winner :crazy:

 

[The Mad Hatter]

In the finals, didn't Rabbits do a "I know, I know...Melbourne were stripped but me and most others still think they won them..." or something like that? As if enough time had passed and let em have em back.

 

[Brutus]

Melbourne's cheating caused Hayne's NFL fumbles.

 

[Card Shark]

Well they did win it...the cheating scumbags did get to enjoy a full season of success, culminating in the celebrations of a grand final win.

 

[mave]

Canterbury and Melbourne. . . . known as cheats, forever.

 

[papabear]

You can't "challenge" yourself to win a Premiership
Unless you've not noticed, Rugby League is a team game

Individuals don't challenge themselves to win team awards, because it's impossible

Hayne could "challenge" himself to be bought by a club that has half a chance of winning a Premiership, but that means his loyalty to Parramatta would need to end.

You can challenge yourself to make a team that you are eligible to play for as your own performances are the benchmark by which you are chosen. Beyond that, it's about being in the right place at the right time.

Rugby League is a team game, but usually the senior players can have a big effect on how the team performs.

Just look at your own side (moving past the issues that they are blood sucking, rugby league killing death cult of a club) and on the field, once JWH went down so did your season. A big player not only inspires through his own efforts but inspires his whole team around him.

 

[Last Week]

Rugby League is a team game, but usually the senior players can have a big effect on how the team performs.

Just look at your own side (moving past the issues that they are blood sucking, rugby league killing death cult of a club) and on the field, once JWH went down so did your season. A big player not only inspires through his own efforts but inspires his whole team around him.

Yes, and Jarryd with help from Moi Moi, dragged a Parramatta team to the GF. A team boasting halves the likes of Daniel Mortimer, Jeff Robson and hookers in Matt Keating and Kevin Kingston, only to be stopped by the biggest cheats in Rugby League history, with their spine consisting of Slater, Cronk and Cameron Smith..

Jarryd has reached and achieved every individual achievement he can on his own.

 

[JJ]

The other two didn't just walk out on their team mates mid-season, mid-contract without even telling anyone, only to come back and play for their biggest rivals just a few years later.

That evidence certainly does not suggest he's "the same".

A long time ago - he had his reasons, I am not sure anybody can criticise him with what he's done since - learned union, been part of two world cup wins (important part of the second) important part of a premiership, and the boxing laugh... plus his actions with the public, lot of jealousy/bitterness towards him, but he seems a good human

they're all paid well, let's not kid ourselves that Hayne, Burgess or SBW are poor, or sacrificing anything.

And seriously, people want to bring up loyalty to clubs, so funny

 

[big hit!]

He only got the option to return a handful of punts in 6 games, and maybe a half dozen downs at RB.

He certainly wasn't offered the same chances as Davis, for example.

he got opportunities. he kept fluffing them.

the issue with Hayne isn't that he may not be good enough. it's trust. coaches trusting him to go out there and not f**k it up. a player who regularly fumbles is one of the least trusted in a team. the fact that Davis goes out and makes little yards is moot. as long as he doesn't fumble the ball, they'll trust him with a play. that's been eroded in Hayne for the time being.

 

[Perth Red]

Canterbury and Melbourne. . . . known as cheats, forever.

You missed parramatta in your vent

 

[HayneKloppter]

the best cheat is the one that doesn't get caught, like getting both your CEO's to quit to destroy the evidence

 

[Brutus]

Yes, and Jarryd with help from Moi Moi, dragged a Parramatta team to the GF. A team boasting halves the likes of Daniel Mortimer, Jeff Robson and hookers in Matt Keating and Kevin Kingston, only to be stopped by the biggest cheats in Rugby League history, with their spine consisting of Slater, Cronk and Cameron Smith..

Jarryd has reached and achieved every individual achievement he can on his own.

Jarryd has no premiership ring troll.

No premiership ring. The ultimate team prize in a team sport.

It kills guys like ET, Blocker and Wayne Pearce to this day.

 

[Last Week]

Jarryd has no premiership ring troll.

No premiership ring. The ultimate team prize in a team sport.

It kills guys like ET, Blocker and Wayne Pearce to this day.

A premiership ring is something a player receives when the their team wins the Grand Final. He also never won the minor premiership. Those are things he cannot do on his own.

Making an NRL team, representing a state of origin team, representing his country, winning the Dally M medal, making the 49ers roster, etc etc, they are all individual achievements. The only thing really stopping him achieving those things would be himself. He trained, learned and disciplined himself to be good enough to achieve those. They are challenges he set himself that he accomplished.

I'm sure he would have loved to have been apart of a premiership winning team. He could be the strongest, fastest and most skillful player ever, but he can't do anything about the rest of his team mates letting the team down. He can't control that.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Hayne is straight back into the 53 once Hyde comes back from inury

 

[southwalesrabbitoh]

who's Hyde, and what does he do?

anyway, regarding Melbourne, we deserved those Premierships, who knew that Slater and Cronk would turn out so good, and that Smith who went to the Storm as a halfback would become the best hooker of all time?

Look what happened in 2008, it's not easy to win them. Frikin overrated S Menzies.