El Diablo said:You could quite possibly be the stupidest person ever born.
That's it from me on this. That's all that needs to be said.
eagle_eye said:Id much rather have a company on my jersey like Delmege knowing their behind the club, willing to put in plenty of dollars. If a company stays sponsering a jersey for long enough they become well known anyway. I'm not sure what your arguing though, would you rather big companies just to make the game look better? As mentioned before, more money behind the club, the better is for the club and the game
eagle_eye said:Id much rather have a company on my jersey like Delmege knowing their behind the club, willing to put in plenty of dollars. If a company stays sponsering a jersey for long enough they become well known anyway. I'm not sure what your arguing though, would you rather big companies just to make the game look better? As mentioned before, more money behind the club, the better is for the club and the game
dodge said:If the company can commit and make a name for itself as Delmege is slowly but surely doing, it is excellent and I agree. The money is good for the game. What I'd rather, and I think Moffo is on this wavelengths, is that clubs who seem to cycle through sponsors frequently stop choosing to take companies on board who fall through easily.
The Tigers have been notorious for it, and I'm not sure what it is, my best guess is that Noyce has no idea how to pitch to a big name company. Even less successful clubs on field like the Cowboys managed to get a huge name like Toyota on board, and as their success built Toyota decided to stay. Cronulla have never won a premiership, but miraculously, they've had LG on board since 2001 - next year they will have sponsored them for 6 years! The Warriors were hopeless until 2002 - but they've held onto Vodafone as a major sponsor since 1999! The point is, success or not, long term, higher profile sponsors are what the game needs. Delmege is slowly becoming one of those through it's continued support. Might sound silly but I would like to see at least 12 of the 16 clubs have the same sponsors on their jerseys by 2010. Commitment and longevity from sponsors needs to be a priority IMO, like Telstra and the premiership. Winfield hung around for 15 years before it was legally turfed out as the naming rights sponsor. It's what's for the good of the game, and teams signing sponsors who clearly don't have the legs or a visible name, or the proper money to support it, don't deserve the contract. I love this game but clubs that continue to show poor business nous will flounder. FGS, Newcastle took almost 2 months to find a sponsor! They almost went financially kaput!
Moffo said:great insurance company? Can't use those words together!
But realistically, they aren't what you'd call a high profile company
Man_of_Steel_1982 said:Moffo, clearly you're 17 years old with no idea how the real world works. You're reasoning is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to begin.
Just briefly, you had a go at Coal and Allied... connected to a mob called Rio Tinto... ever heard of them? It's Newcastle's biggest sponsorship deal in their ENTIRE CLUB HISTORY! Something like $8-900,000 a season. Not to mention it's a great tie to the local area as wellm basically making it the perfect sponsor for Newcastle in all regards (financial and community).
Clubs MUST take the biggest offer they can get! Most clubs just scrape by from year to year. If they knocked back 200-500,000 a year just so they can have 'prestigeous' backers (that little-moffo has heard of) they'd be gone.
I could get right into this but there's no point, you're clearly a bigger fool than I orginally thought and I'd be wasting my time.
parra_panther said:But they could increase their profile by aligning themselves with the Bunnies, whom itself is is quite a powerful brand in Australian sport. Makes good marketing sense.
dodge said:If he thinks that an organisation won't look at the prestige and profile of the company wanting to sponsor them, or at least attempt to seek out one with a relatively high profile - then he is delusional.
ParraDude_Jay said::lol:
Moffo, you're a dumbass, what a pointless and stupid topic, started by a tool with nothing to back up what he says :lol:.
Te Kaha said:Moffo has penis envy.. that is all it is.... he "sees" the AFL clubs with big name sponsors and then thinks NRL clubs should have even bigger sponsors so he can say to all the AFL fans..."ours are better than yours"...
In the end as long as the money is there to keep the clubs and therefore the game moving forward, who really cares who sponsors them?....only Moffo it seems.
gaterooze said:That logic may seem like common sense, but in business practice is doesn't work that way.
A 10bn company will be well-established and has less need for promotion than a smaller upstart trying to penetrate a market and looking for maximum visibility.
The bigger company is not willing to pay as much as the smaller company, because they will get less value out of the promotion.
Everything in commerce is "costed" -- Coca Cola may value the promotion of a jersey sponsorship at $600k and be willing to pay that much, but to Mortgage House that same "product" may be worth $800k.
That's how it works. And a club is not going to knock back an extra 200 grand for a bit of "prestige."
El Diablo said:I've got nothing? lol
you two are the dickheads saying these big companies will pay more but can't provide figures backing it up
Iafeta said:Moffo, moffo, moffo. You must have drunk a gallon of Jack Daniels' finest before posting that.
It comes down to whomever bids highest for the spots - whether it be Best & Less, Bonds Jockeys, FHM, Johns Dildos and Nipple Pumps or Shell. Thats reality.
Moffo said:A company that makes $1m dollars a year may allocate 20k to marketing and promotion
How much do you think a $1bn company will allocate to it? Come on Gater, think about it. Come on Gater, think about it. I've worked in that $1m dollar company and i currently work in one that makes several billion a year.