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Who would you rather have at your club?Jamie Soward or Mitchell Pearce..

Danish

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Current Dally M Ladder:

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Sans Serif]14 - Jamie Soward (STI) [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Sans Serif]10 - Mitchell Pearce (SYD) [/FONT]


Current dally m ladder:

19 - Matt Orford
10 - Johnathan Thurston


jesus, Orford must be a better player than Thurston!! :lol:
 

Tom Ace

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For once you're right Chandos, I am doing the very thing that I said I was glad that no-one did, in wasting my time responding to your posts. I guess your stupidity just sucks me and others in to replying.

Continue making a fool of yourself and I'll laugh from the sidelines.

Maybe another story where you try to convince everyone you have a social life because you went out in the Cross once would get me laughing again.
 

Hutty1986

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Yawn.

Every year the Dragons go on a mini run and their supporters are out in force saying they'll win the comp.

They'll fall in a heap like they do every year. They're lucky to be where they are and will be still struggle to make the finals.

Every team this year started the year with 4 points (for the byes), Saints started with 10.

:lol: Another useless post from a nuffy
 

Tommy Smith

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Why Pearce is a Blues leader in the making

Roy Masters | July 4, 2008


NSW captain Danny Buderus made special mention of one player when he accepted the Blues' man-of-the-match award at the team's Sydney hotel - halfback Mitchell Pearce.

"In years to come, I'll be able to say I played my last Origin game with Mitchell Pearce," Buderus told the gathering of teammates, coaches and parents.

Pearce's coach at the Roosters, Brad Fittler, was also lavish in his praise of the No.7, who made his Origin debut in the decider, won by Queensland on Wednesday night. "I thought he was great," Fittler enthused. "He sat a few big blokes on their bums and got involved from the start."

To most observers, Pearce's performance didn't warrant poring through a Roget's in search of fresh superlatives. But Buderus and Fittler are No.1 and No.2 respectively as the men who have played the most Origin games as captain of NSW.

They know the special ingredients in the make-up of a long-term Origin player. Stardom in Origin football, particularly in the halves, usually doesn't come ready-made. It cooks slow. Wally Lewis, the Queensland five-eighth, is probably the only half to make an instant impact at this level. Pearce's decision-making at Origin level needs the kind of nurturing that can come only with more games.

Origin III was rare in the sense that the Blues were in control of the ruck for most of the game, yet still lost. Modern coaches have been saying for years, "If you win the wrestle, you win the match", but the Blues were unable to capitalise on that domination because their halves were indecisive.

Pearce did not exploit tired Maroons forwards around the ruck and five-eighth Braith Anasta demonstrated yet again that the NSW selectors are right when they accuse him of taking poor options.

The Blues were instructed not to kick high to the wing of tall Maroons winger Israel Folau, yet most of Anasta's kicks went in that direction. Folau scored two tries.

How do you defend against a man with spring-loaded feet and hands as big as oven mitts? Go to Croatia or where they breed two-metre-tall athletes, or cut Folau's opportunities by kicking away from him?

NSW coach Craig Bellamy was also entitled to be angry about Queensland's third try. For eight weeks, the Blues coaching staff had hectored the players about Johnathan Thurston's dummies. "Don't fall for his show and go," they yelled at every training session. Yet Thurston sold a standard dummy to NSW prop Brett White and streaked down the blind side with fullback Billy Slater in support.


It wasn't exclusively White's fault, as he was defending a wide corridor and could have used the assistance of forward Paul Gallen. Gallen's ill-discipline was also very costly. Referee Tony Archer warned him for holding down the ball-carrier in the first half: "Move, mate. That's two [tackles] in a row. You're trying to slow it up."

In the second half, Archer had no alternative but to punish him with a penalty that drew the game level at 10-10. Gallen struck Thurston so late, the ball he kicked was already in the hands of a NSW player.

Thurston has taken time to develop into Queensland's top halfback. Evidence of his maturity came in the way he took control when Scott Prince was forced from the field with a broken arm.

While some argued Prince's selection would free Thurston of the demands of organising his team and allow him to work his individual magic, the reality is he did both when his No.7 was injured. In essence, Thurston stepped up, while Anasta did not.

Bellamy's tactic of starting with benchman Kurt Gidley as fullback was successful to the extent the Blues' coaching staff couldn't replace him. Nominated fullback Brett Stewart came on too late for some fans, particularly Manly ones, but Gidley was so involved in the play, he became indispensable.

Bellamy's decision to use Willie Mason as an impact player was justified by the statistics. Mason, with 124 metres, was the only NSW forward to make over 100m carrying the ball, compared to three Queensland forwards - Steve Price (120m), Petero Civoniceva (109m) and Nate Myles (127m).

Still, it is in the backs where Queensland enjoys a superiority, seemingly for years to come. NSW selectors are entitled to ask: "How many of the Blues backs would make the Maroons backline?"

Answer: only Mark Gasnier, provided he is fit.

"What about Pearce?" was the instant response of Blues sponsor, Wizard's Mark Bouris, when the question was put to him. Maybe you'd expect that of a Rooster booster but it echoed the praise expressed by Buderus and Fittler.

The Blues must also find a captain to replace Buderus. In the long term, it may be Pearce, possibly with Origin I halfback, Peter Wallace, as his five-eighth.

Buderus's praise brings to mind the comment of the three-time Super Bowl-winning New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick when asked about his quarterback, Tom Brady: "It's hard to sum up his natural leadership, but he's got it. It's like pornography - even if you can't define it, you know it when you see it."
 

~knights~

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"It's hard to sum up his natural leadership, but he's got it. It's like pornography - even if you can't define it, you know it when you see it."

thats kind of weird :lol:
 

salivor

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Jamie Soward? :lol:

Nothing but a solid first grader IMO. The blokes competiting for the NSW halves spots over the next decade are going to be Carney, Pearce, Wallace and Mullen. I'd happily take any of them and thankfully we already have one in Wallace.
 

Gaba

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Jamie Soward? :lol:

Nothing but a solid first grader IMO. The blokes competiting for the NSW halves spots over the next decade are going to be Carney, Pearce, Wallace and Mullen. I'd happily take any of them and thankfully we already have one in Wallace.



Pearce wont be picked again he has no attacking skills, wallace improved under bennett and the broncos are a better team then penrith.

It will be interesting to see what wallace will be like with a weaker broncos team next year and a different coach. I dont think he will be as good as he was this year ,in fact he might not even be mention for state of origin next year



Soward is by far a better attacking player then pearce is and in a few more years, pearce is not even a one hit wonder , while soward attacking career will improve under bennett
 
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salivor

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Pearce wont be picked again he has no attacking skills, wallace improved under bennett and the broncos are a better team then penrith.

It will be interesting to see what wallace will be like with a weaker broncos team next year and a different coach. I dont think he will be as good as he was this year ,in fact he might not even be mention for state of origin next year



Soward is by far a better attacking player then pearce is and in a few more years, pearce is not even a one hit wonder , while soward attacking career will improve under bennett

Wallace has been tipped as a star for years, injuries have held him back to this point. It's no surprise that once he's finally got a decent run injury free that he's lived up to that potential.

It's also a very long bow to draw to say he's being made to look better by the calibre of player around him. The Broncos were tipped to miss out on the finals by most pre-season and that was under the assumption that Lockyer would be playing. Lockyer hasn't played the majority of the season and Wallace has still lifted us to where we are and it's no surprise that we've fallen away as he's been under the strain of Origin and injury. Tell me the last time you saw a Broncos side stay round the top of the table with Lockyer on the sidelines? What he's brought to the Broncos speaks for itself.

No guarantees that Soward will improve under Bennett. Ask Brett Seymour and the wasteland of post Langer halfbacks that have come through the Broncos...
 

OVP

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Pearce wont be picked again he has no attacking skills, wallace improved under bennett and the broncos are a better team then penrith.

It will be interesting to see what wallace will be like with a weaker broncos team next year and a different coach. I dont think he will be as good as he was this year ,in fact he might not even be mention for state of origin next year



Soward is by far a better attacking player then pearce is and in a few more years, pearce is not even a one hit wonder , while soward attacking career will improve under bennett

Are you serious ?
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Gaba

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Wallace has been tipped as a star for years, injuries have held him back to this point. It's no surprise that once he's finally got a decent run injury free that he's lived up to that potential.

It's also a very long bow to draw to say he's being made to look better by the calibre of player around him. The Broncos were tipped to miss out on the finals by most pre-season and that was under the assumption that Lockyer would be playing. Lockyer hasn't played the majority of the season and Wallace has still lifted us to where we are and it's no surprise that we've fallen away as he's been under the strain of Origin and injury. Tell me the last time you saw a Broncos side stay round the top of the table with Lockyer on the sidelines? What he's brought to the Broncos speaks for itself.

No guarantees that Soward will improve under Bennett. Ask Brett Seymour and the wasteland of post Langer halfbacks that have come through the Broncos...


I got nothing against wallace i prefer him to be the halfback for nsw over pearce and the others anyday, i guess we will have to wait and see next year on how he goes with the team and new coach

Even if soward doesnt improve much on what he is showing now , he will still be more of an attacking player then pearce will be, I would rather see Hornby playing halfback for nsw then pearce or soward if wallace isnt playing
 
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salivor

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I got nothing against wallace i prefer him to be the halfback for nsw over pearce and the others anyday, i guess we will have to wait and see next year on how he goes with the team and new coach

Even if soward doesnt improve much on what he is showing now , he will still be more of an attacking player then pearce will be, I would rather see Hornby playing halfback for nsw then pearce or soward if wallace isnt playing

Hornby at halfback? As a Qld fan I love this idea as well, maybe we'll restrict you to 3 tries over the series next year.

New South Wales need to take a punt properly on their young guns next year. Pick one of Carney or Mullen at 5/8 and one of Pearce and Wallace for halfback.
 

Gaba

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Bugger not replying to you anymore...It's just too enjoyable making you look like a fool.

So where were Mason and O'Meley when Fittler started coaching at the back end of last year and we were winning?


And lost the games where the roosters where tipped to win in the last few rounds, which cost the roosters a place in the finals.

Fitler just had luck in the games where the roosters won , not by his coaching skills as this year , the roosters havent beaten the good sides , shows it is not fitler coaching what improving the roosters, roosters need to buy the players to win agasnst the weaker teams
 
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Collateral

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I dont see where the hype around Pearce is coming from... Granted I dont watch a whole lot of Rorter games, but whenever I have seen them play Pearce has never done anything to stand out...He was woeful in Origin playing alongside a half he has played with for the entire year.

Soward is a 5/8 anyway and not a Halfback, but when it comes down to it, I will take Soward in my team over Pearce anyday.
 

OVP

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And lost the games where the roosters where tipped to win in the last few rounds, which cost the roosters a place in the finals.

Fitler just had luck in the games where the roosters won , not by his coaching skills as this year , the roosters havent beaten the good sides , shows it is not fitler coaching what improving the roosters, roosters need to buy the players to win agasnst the weaker teams

St Jill ... is that you ? :lol: Tis So obvious :lol:
 

Kiki

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i feel lucky to have soward. not a fan of pearce, he can stay where he is
 
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