WWE SuperThread *Spoilers*

[pennywisealfie]

yeah they kinda turned it from an exciting battle between Punk and Authority to a very HHH-McMahon centric storyline.

 

[Big Pete]

Then you have Herny standing next to Barrett nodding his head in agreement when talking about unsafe working conditions.

I didn't have a problem with this. Classic heel booking with them having their cake and eating it as well. Henry might be thriving under these conditions but he's got it in for the face authority figure and he's going to do the best he can to make him miserable.

As for Punk, the reason he wasn't out there from a company stand-point is that it wouldn't generate the reaction officials would want for either guy. I can live with that, Punk doesn't need to repeat himself, he's voiced his opinion on Hunter and they wouldn't want to associate him with those other mid-carders and heels. As long as he gets a promo on Raw, I can deal with it. I expect he will get that promo time and his push will increase with news that he's officially the companies biggest merch. draw and has boosted buy-rates.

I'm breaking my own rules here, but this is a ghost board that needs as much activity as possible. The worst part about this angle occured on Smackdown where the superstars revealed they would boycott Raw but still work Smackdown, to show up Triple H. Ah, what? The guy is the WWE COO (or CEOO according to himself), he has complete control over both shows and has featured on both since this promotion. This was really stupid and a cheap way to undersell what happened on Raw.

I know the company line will be they couldn't resolve such an important angle on a B-Show that comes on at a poor timeslot BUT there are so many ways they could have worked around it.

 

[Manurewa_Marlins]

The best thing to have happened would have been for no one to be at Smackdown and Triple H introducing a new crop of stars. have the likes of Claudio, Chris Hero, the Briscoes etc come out and tear it up in the ring and let them let loose with the mic. Triple also brings back a number of former stars - the likes of RVD, Sabu, hell he's so desperate for workers he throws Dean malenko out there who has a hell of a match with a young upstart in David Richards. Hell I would have booked Heyman for one night, have him come out and say this has been brewing for a while and he told creative it would happen years ago, but they wouldnt listen blah blah blah. overall have the show be a bit over the place, but have Triple H come up trumps in the sense that he "doesnt need the other guys anyway". This would lead to Raw, with the young upstarts tearing the hosue down again. I'd have Punk cut a promo on Triple H at the beginning of the show, with Triple H putting Punk in a match with Daniel Bryan, who ahs agreed to come back to work. the two tear it down in the main event, only for the guys on strike to invade through the crowd and beat them to a bloody pulp for "selling out". Anarchy ensues as the young guys pour from the locker room. have Laurenitis order the guys in the truck to cut the boradcast as cops and security attempt to break up the riot.

 

[brooksy19]

^^^ This.

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

I didn't have a problem with this. Classic heel booking with them having their cake and eating it as well. Henry might be thriving under these conditions but he's got it in for the face authority figure and he's going to do the best he can to make him miserable.

It's too much of an insult as a fan to buy this. If HHH were to punish this behavior Henry is the first guy who would cop it. Sure have him out there because he's a heel if you must but don't stand him next to Barrett who cuts the first promo on behalf of the wrestlers.

As for Punk, the reason he wasn't out there from a company stand-point is that it wouldn't generate the reaction officials would want for either guy. I can live with that, Punk doesn't need to repeat himself, he's voiced his opinion on Hunter and they wouldn't want to associate him with those other mid-carders and heels. As long as he gets a promo on Raw, I can deal with it. I expect he will get that promo time and his push will increase with news that he's officially the companies biggest merch. draw and has boosted buy-rates.

I understand why they didn't book him to be out there but it was weak and the segment sucked.

The merch news on Punk is great. He's a snarky little merkin but they might give him the ball and let him run if he's gonna draw. I'm not one of these guys who's gonna be on Cena's nuts because he sucks, and his wigger gimmick was an embarrassment. But if it gives them the WWE the confidence to go with a Hogan-esque heel turn it would be great. Punk #1 face, Cena #1. Have him stable with Miz/Truth and you might even be able to book a Miz face turn in a year of two against Cena and put him over to where he is actually credible. I would obviously be more excited about a Dragon feud, a reason to sign Joe and build him towards something and a reason to sign Cobana for comedy relief.

I'm breaking my own rules here, but this is a ghost board that needs as much activity as possible. The worst part about this angle occured on Smackdown where the superstars revealed they would boycott Raw but still work Smackdown, to show up Triple H. Ah, what? The guy is the WWE COO (or CEOO according to himself), he has complete control over both shows and has featured on both since this promotion. This was really stupid and a cheap way to undersell what happened on Raw.

The angle is so lame I already knew this would happen.

I know the company line will be they couldn't resolve such an important angle on a B-Show that comes on at a poor timeslot BUT there are so many ways they could have worked around it.

They don't work around things in the WWE.

 

[Big Pete]

Henry's already 'copped' it from Hunter, I don't see the need for Hunter to address him again. I must be missing the point, what's so wrong with Henry standing alongside another heel in Barrett?

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

Henry's already 'copped' it from Hunter, I don't see the need for Hunter to address him again. I must be missing the point, what's so wrong with Henry standing alongside another heel in Barrett?

Because Barrett raised the issue of unsafe working conditions whilst Henry was standing next to him nodding in agreement which undermines the grievance as illegitimate. You might as well have had Henry say that. To open the promo with that says to me this whole thing is bullshit. Then HHH buries Barrett and pretty much confirms it.

Now you might say so what? That was the point. But this is the problem, it wasn't booked as a heel vs. HHH angle, it was booked as a roster vs. HHH angle. You had the officials, the divas, the commentators and mid card faces out there. Plus, you can't walk away from Punk raising this agenda against HHH no matter how much you try and do so.

When Lawler walked (and they didn't even have to fire his teenage girlfriend :lol there was an attempt to legitimized the complaint, yet I was just told it was bullshit by HHH and pretty much confirmed. But we recall that Lawler was taken out by Henry, now I'm just thinking clusterf**k. Maybe he lost too much blood from the anal bleeding and is feeling lightheaded. Where is the coherent story in this promo? I'm getting conflicting messages everywhere. The officials are supposed to be credible so I bought what they are saying. Then the whole roster walks and then JR puts the final nail in the coffin. But you didn't sell me this angle enough after introducing it as bullshit.

Instead of thinking there is chaos in the WWE I'm left thinking there is chaos in the writing team. I think HHH just buried the entire WWE roster and everyone came off looking like they have a little too much sand in their vaginas.

 

[Big Pete]

Instead of thinking there is chaos in the WWE I'm left thinking there is chaos in the writing team. I think HHH just buried the entire WWE roster and everyone came off looking like they have a little too much sand in their vaginas.

:lol: This is well put and is an issue I have with it but in the end I got a very different ending to an episode and on that front I found it enjoyable and I am looking forward to next week.

Now you might say so what? That was the point. But this is the problem, it wasn't booked as a heel vs. HHH angle, it was booked as a roster vs. HHH angle. You had the officials, the divas, the commentators and mid card faces out there. Plus, you can't walk away from Punk raising this agenda against HHH no matter how much you try and do so.

It was really HHH vs. Heels and those who don't really matter enough to be protected, which is bad in itself but I wouldn't say it was the entire roster. The point I gathered was that some factions made some good points, some didn't but in the end they all had their own agendas and issues.

 

[Manurewa_Marlins]

Its a fine line between different and entertaining. It was different but I dont think it was well done at all. Simialr to that whole TNA riot thing a few years back. It was different but made f**k all sense. Still they're trying. Problem is, they didnt have to do this, that had a huge angle aaaaaaand they choked.

 

[Big Pete]

Fair point, I'm still interested to see where this will all go, for better or worse.

Seems like Raw will go on with only a handful of superstars as the rest will be on strike outside the building.

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

Did I hear the word strike mentioned? :lol:

Now they want to draw attention to one of the biggest examples of a taxation scam and worker exploitation in the western world.

I'm sorry but if you sign an exclusive contract you're not an independent contractor, you're an employee.

Back in the day Ventura was going to try an unionize and Hogan stabbed everyone in the back and ran to McMahon like the bitch he is.

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

Put it this way, pornstars are unionized but wrestlers are not.

 

[Matt23]

Surprise, surprise Lauranitis has replaced trips as C O O

 

[Big Pete]

Not exactly.

Triple H is still the COO, he's just lost control of Raw, and Ace has been announced as GM.

Total mess of a show, which was part of the point, but it's beginning to hurt the product and they really need to cut the crap out and start sorting themselves out for Survivor Series.

 

[afinalsin666]

Yeah there were a lot of F-Ups with the dialogue that i wasn't sure was intentional or not. I don't think the WWE are smart enough to do that though. As evidenced by this whole clusterf*ck of a saga.

Only decent match today was the 6 man tag match. Surprisingly solid.

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

A new nWo.

Pro and Anti-WWE factions at Survivor Series.

Rock returns and Austin might.

Cena and Rock the break off into their feud as do Punk and Austin (if he returns) for Wrestlemania.

Austin is the only thing that makes what they are doing with Punk make sense.

How can you have all these guys break off into their own feuds with a new nWo running around unless Cena turns heel and joins them?

 

[Big Pete]

Only decent match today was the 6 man tag match. Surprisingly solid.

When you have Bourne, Ziggler, Kingston and Swagger involved you'd at least expect it to be solid. All four men can work, especially Ziggler and Bourne.

Austin is the only thing that makes what they are doing with Punk make sense.

How so?

 

[Marshall_magic]

A new nWo.

Pro and Anti-WWE factions at Survivor Series.

Rock returns and Austin might.

Cena and Rock the break off into their feud as do Punk and Austin (if he returns) for Wrestlemania.

Austin is the only thing that makes what they are doing with Punk make sense.

How can you have all these guys break off into their own feuds with a new nWo running around unless Cena turns heel and joins them?

This is what I'm expecting. Seeds are planted for that tonight. Punk, Cena and Sheamus all clearly on team HHH and Miz, Truth, Christian, Barrett, probably a few others on team we-hate-HHH.

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

How so?

Because Punk would actually be going somewhere other than being a lacky for Triple H after starting the agenda against him no less.

The initial Punk storyline was much more interesting than nWo 2.0 so they had better produce something good after they dropped the ball there.

It's still an incoherent storyline but I'm sure everyone can overlook that if we get Punk vs. Austin.

Can you imagine the promo's?

 

[Whos Ya Daddy]

This is what I'm expecting. Seeds are planted for that tonight. Punk, Cena and Sheamus all clearly on team HHH and Miz, Truth, Christian, Barrett, probably a few others on team we-hate-HHH.

Rock will definitely be on team HHH and there is a chance Austin will be as well.