Y.N.W.A. Thread (Liverpool fans thread)

[umina panther]

Rubbish first half but looked better in the second

 

[Jason Maher]

Nice to do a double over you pricks for once.

 

[WireMan]

Rubbish first half but looked better in the second

I thought you came into a bit more in the second but that was always going to happen as you were chasing a goal.

Other than your goal you didn't do much, Sturridge is very overrated and has a "shoot from impossible angles wide" policy which will grind your gears after a few weeks.

Other than that, you could/should of been down to 10, conceded a pen (push on Kagawa) and in the first half were that focused on kicking out attackers you forgot to play football. Ref was your 12th man today. I'll not hold my breath for the criticism in the media though.



Oh and PS. YEAH!!! Take that YSB

 

[Knightmare]

I thought you came into a bit more in the second but that was always going to happen as you were chasing a goal.

Other than your goal you didn't do much, Sturridge is very overrated and has a "shoot from impossible angles wide" policy which will grind your gears after a few weeks.

Other than that, you could/should of been down to 10, conceded a pen (push on Kagawa) and in the first half were that focused on kicking out attackers you forgot to play football. Ref was your 12th man today. I'll not hold my breath for the criticism in the media though.



Oh and PS. YEAH!!! Take that YSB

:lol: Howard Webb shows unbiased refereeing in a match= "Ref was your 12th man today!"

United logic aye...

Thoughts on RVP's offside header?

 

[skeepe]

I thought you came into a bit more in the second but that was always going to happen as you were chasing a goal.

Other than your goal you didn't do much, Sturridge is very overrated and has a "shoot from impossible angles wide" policy which will grind your gears after a few weeks.

Other than that, you could/should of been down to 10, conceded a pen (push on Kagawa) and in the first half were that focused on kicking out attackers you forgot to play football. Ref was your 12th man today. I'll not hold my breath for the criticism in the media though.



Oh and PS. YEAH!!! Take that YSB

:lol:

Kagawa and Wellbeck were so unsteady on their feet that a slight gust of wind would have knocked them over. Nice dive by Wellbeck to get the free kick that Vidic scored an offside goal from though.

Kagawa should have been sent for his vicious, deliberate attack on Reina. Isn't that how your mob sees accidents like that, or is it only when it happens to United players?

 

[umina panther]

Not sure I'm in a position to apologise for skeepe's rubbish but ill try....sorry for the clown.

We normally fire up to play Man U but that was crap.

 

[t10do]

Got the result we deserved.

Get well back into it in the second half, but I think it had a lot to do with ManU taking their foot off the gas.

Skrtel had one of those days where Wellbeck had him panicking the whole time. Allen, another bad game for him imho.

Sturrdige will get a few "ugly' goals, especially with Suarez playing in the hole. Just having somebody with a bit of movement up front, apart from Suarez, is a bonus. I do not care if he keeps taking shots from impossible angles. It is an improvement on having a player "worth" 35 million who can't get a shot off full-stop.

 

[Red Bear]

Positives were our second half and that Suarez and Sturridge looked decent together, not to mention we suddenly have three strikers rather than one.

Negatives was a terrible first half and poor form from Lucas, need him at his best for the City and Arsenal matches in the next couple of weeks.

Cleverley and Carrick were superb in the first half for Manure unfortunately, whilst Allen and Lucas were poor.

 

[Jack_Napier]

The most telling thing about the second half for me, was the fact that someone actually had a shot and goal came from it. Anyone else gettin te shits with the amount of times we stand on the ball and look to pass back first. What's the point of wanting lots of movement in attack when all you do is pass it back to a centre back who then passes it to the keeper or worse, pass our selves into a corner.

We have to be te worst team at hittin on the counter, to much over thinking and not enough direct play. Allen and Lucas simply cannot play together IMO. Both are way to similar and don't have the physical attributes that we need in the midfield when on together. I would kill for someone like Yaya Toure, big strong physical presence in the middle. Would've loved the club to have a crack at Nigel De Jong last window before was shipped off to Italy.

Also can someone explain why BR didn't start Sturridge. He changed our attack for the better as it meant the united mids had to sit alot deeper and weren't killing us on the edge of our own box.

Always shit losing to the Red Manc bastards but we definitly got what we deserved for that first half. Still some good signs in attack for different reasons for once, Happy Days!

 

[WireMan]

:lol: Howard Webb shows unbiased refereeing in a match= "Ref was your 12th man today!"

United logic aye...

Thoughts on RVP's offside header?

Which header? RvP was all class.

You mean the Vidic "offside" header where he was level? All good.


A Scouser saying Webb is unbiased is basically saying he was your best player...

Not sure I'm in a position to apologise for skeepe's rubbish but ill try....sorry for the clown.

We normally fire up to play Man U but that was crap.

Its ok, i don't take any notice of him.

Also can someone explain why BR didn't start Sturridge. He changed our attack for the better as it meant the united mids had to sit alot deeper and weren't killing us on the edge of our own box.

I think people are linking Sturridge coming on and the change of fortunes in the game to much.

If you had started with Sturridge up front with Suarez at the start of the game and left Allen and Gerrard to contend with Carrick and Cleverly, with RvP dropping to help, when the score was 0-0 and United played there first half game then it would of been a even more of a beating.

As it was with Lucas playing a destructive role your CB's got ran ragged a few times.

The fact was that Sturridge came on, then we made it 2-0.
Once that happened United did what they do best and play deeper. It had nothing to do with Sturridge, it was the way the game always seems to go. Once you got one goal it was pressure all the way from an excited Liverpool. Sturridges inability to pass actually hindered you more than helped at the end. You where much more threatening when Gerrard and Suarez got there head up and thought about things.

Rogers obviously wanted Sterling to support Suarez but he seemed effected by the occasion (which is fair enough and not a criticism as its one of his first big games). Downing played his usual game on the left. But was at least solid enough to stop Rafael and Young completely taking the p*ss down that wing.

 

[Jimbo]

I do not care if he keeps taking shots from impossible angles.

Get used to that

Sturridge is a good player, but he can be rather wasteful

 

[Red Bear]

Which header? RvP was all class.

You mean the Vidic "offside" header where he was level? All good.


A Scouser saying Webb is unbiased is basically saying he was your best player...




Its ok, i don't take any notice of him.



I think people are linking Sturridge coming on and the change of fortunes in the game to much.

If you had started with Sturridge up front with Suarez at the start of the game and left Allen and Gerrard to contend with Carrick and Cleverly, with RvP dropping to help, when the score was 0-0 and United played there first half game then it would of been a even more of a beating.

As it was with Lucas playing a destructive role your CB's got ran ragged a few times.

The fact was that Sturridge came on, then we made it 2-0.
Once that happened United did what they do best and play deeper. It had nothing to do with Sturridge, it was the way the game always seems to go. Once you got one goal it was pressure all the way from an excited Liverpool. Sturridges inability to pass actually hindered you more than helped at the end. You where much more threatening when Gerrard and Suarez got there head up and thought about things.

Rogers obviously wanted Sterling to support Suarez but he seemed effected by the occasion (which is fair enough and not a criticism as its one of his first big games). Downing played his usual game on the left. But was at least solid enough to stop Rafael and Young completely taking the p*ss down that wing.

Downing was defending on the right, Sterling on the left.

I thought Uniteds performance in the first half considering Ashley Young meant they were basically playing with ten, he was f**king rubbish.

Lucas is coming off a couple of big injuries, really hope he can get back to where he was the twelve months before his ACL tear, he was our most important midfielder at that point and especially against good sides could break up the oppositions midfield very effectively.

 

[Jack_Napier]

Lucas and Allen are mid table club midfielders plain and simple. Both don't have anywhere near enough quality to get us into the top 4, and when you throw in a slowing Stevie G, then our midfield is weak as piss.

To think we used to have Xabi, Mascherano and Stevie all firing at once and its painfully obvious we are just mod table team at best at the moment.

Pretty sure I heard the commentators say we haven't beaten anyone in the top 10 this season.

 

[WireMan]

Downing was defending on the right, Sterling on the left.

I thought Uniteds performance in the first half considering Ashley Young meant they were basically playing with ten, he was f**king rubbish.

Lucas is coming off a couple of big injuries, really hope he can get back to where he was the twelve months before his ACL tear, he was our most important midfielder at that point and especially against good sides could break up the oppositions midfield very effectively.

They must of swapped at some point, but if sterling played most on the left then he did a good job defensively.

Say what you like about Young, he was still the best winger on the pitch.

Lucas and Allen are mid table club midfielders plain and simple. Both don't have anywhere near enough quality to get us into the top 4, and when you throw in a slowing Stevie G, then our midfield is weak as piss.

To think we used to have Xabi, Mascherano and Stevie all firing at once and its painfully obvious we are just mod table team at best at the moment.

Pretty sure I heard the commentators say we haven't beaten anyone in the top 10 this season.

Yeah that true, you have a few draws though...

Going on your review of your mid, where and how would you play sturridge, you either play him or Suarez on the left (one is not a winger and needs to play up top, the other is your best player so may be marginalised) or do you weaken your already weak midfield?

 

[Red Bear]

They must of swapped at some point, but if sterling played most on the left then he did a good job defensively.

Say what you like about Young, he was still the best winger on the pitch.



Yeah that true, you have a few draws though...

Going on your review of your mid, where and how would you play sturridge, you either play him or Suarez on the left (one is not a winger and needs to play up top, the other is your best player so may be marginalised) or do you weaken your already weak midfield?

I thought Young was terrible, diving, generally average then got injured diving in at Agger.

It more reflects that Uniteds wide play came through Evra/Rafael rather than their wingers. And that the game was one by Carrick/Cleverley.

I disagree about Lucas Jack Napier, when he's good as he was last season before the injury against Chelsea he's very valuable, but his current form is mid-table.

Central midfield is clearly where we'll have to revitalise in the not to distant future though. And Keeper

 

[Jack_Napier]

Yeah that true, you have a few draws though...

Going on your review of your mid, where and how would you play sturridge, you either play him or Suarez on the left (one is not a winger and needs to play up top, the other is your best player so may be marginalised) or do you weaken your already weak midfield?

It's a tough question to answer mate because I still don't think we have the right players to form a good midfield to supply both Sturridge and Luis. Luis sorta floats most games anyway, he's usually huntin the ball and looking to make something happen. Enrique is someone I'd play out wide. It he can't stay on the pitch unfortunately.

I'd be happy if BR went to a traditional 4-4-2 set up with Sturridge up from with Luis playing just a little deeper than him. We don't really have a play maker in the mids apart from Stevie G and he's been pretty ineffective most of the season. Allen doesnt inspire me with great confidence when in the final 3rd of the pitch, nor does Lucas.

We lack a pass master, someone who can sit and pull the strings for the likes of sterling, Suarez and Sturridge like Carrick did against us over the weekend. That with a lack of physical size in the midfield and it's no wonder why we're sittin 10th.

Reina
Wisdom Agger Skrtel Johnson

Lucas

Enrique Stevie G Sterling

Suarez
Sturridge

That's pretty much the way I'd go at the moment, have Lucas sitting In front of the Defence with Enrique Stevie and sterling in front of him. Not really spoilt for choice at the moment unfortunately. Xabi come back home please!! Haha

 

[HowHigh]

Yeah Enrique out wide again is worth trying out some more, did pretty well from memory when he was in that role.
That's probably the strongest line up we could field that you said above.

As for tonight's game, let's hope Suarez can make it 3 hatricks in a row against Norwich (would become the first Liverpool player to do so in a league game against the same team) and another random fact that Sturridge could become the first player to score in his first 3 games for us since 1974.

I'm backing a 3-0 or 4-1

 

[HowHigh]

All over them, 5-0.
It's looking like we may finally have that needed second goal scoring forward in Sturridge who has scored in his first 3 games.
Moves up to 7th but we need to get a good run happening, ladder is pretty tight and a couple losses or draws could see us slip back down.

 

[Big Sam]

Moves up to 7th but we need to get a good run happening, ladder is pretty tight and a couple losses or draws could see us slip back down.

Gonna be tough. Next 2 games are Arsenal and City, both away.

 

[Jack_Napier]

Really liked Luis sitting deeper just in behind Sturridge during the game. That and having another threat up front meant the defence couldn't just mark Luis out of the game. Great movement and passing. Thought downing played well, Henderson probably had his best game in months as well.

Game like that should lift the squad and drive the morale in the place for te tough games coming up.