You wont stop our group sex romps: NRL player

[hrundi99]

Of course women are sex objects, they pretty themsleves up, wear nice tight shorts showing a bit of camel toe and a nice tight top that shows off the new boobs.

Us men then drool over said objects and want to stick our things in some of their openings.

The people who deem casual sex, 3 ways, foursomes or group sex degrading are the actual cause of people feeling degraded.

Sex is fun and its not only men that think that, if you are looking for love from sex then you are going about it the wrong way.

Confirmed idiot #2006

 

[herbert henry1908]

Have you ever discussed these issues with a woman?

Go on. Have a good long, open and frank discussion with a woman about this.

Tell her about your opinions on consent.

You might be rudely awakened.

Consenting sex with one man, or two men...... can be slightly different to what the woman feels like if four or five other men burst into the room and start demanding to join in.

Where does consent go if no one stops to ask the woman if she is ok with it and they assume that silence = consent?

Is that consent?

Having 4 sisters i am keenly aware of womens perstectives on things.

you know what I have learnt in my 30+ years of having 4 sisters and discussing topical issues like this? Ive learnt that they cant be all put into the same group.

One womans opinion does not equal all womens opinions. If one woman consents to group sex with many male partners that a choice for her. Its her body and her morality and she can do what she likes with it.

And offcourse silence doesnt equal consent , I have never argued that so im not sure why you directing it at me. Consent can be withdrawn through methods other than those verbal.

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[Alex28]

There are some people here - such as Surely - who talk awfully big games here. Which is easy from behind a keyboard online. Would be interesting to see what their attitudes would be if it was their sister that copped it from a bunch of footballers and seven years later is still a shattered mess because of it.

Also I'm guessing those who talk the biggest games, who go on about how women should be treated and the right of people to have group sex have f*** all chance of actually being involved in group sex...

 

[Surely]

Also I'm guessing those who talk the biggest games, who go on about how women should be treated and the right of people to have group sex have f*** all chance of actually being involved in group sex...

Talk the biggest games what games are you some sort of pontificating idiot ?

I suggest you pull your head out of your arse and have a look at what consenting adults throughout the world get up to.

As for what i have or haven't done thats none of your business, just as what johns does in his sexlife is none of yours or the medias.

 

[StormChaser]

You know the only good thing to come out of this whole sorry saga. It's really separated the men from the boys, both online and off. Nice to know who the decent guys are who to now avoid.
Well done.

 

[God-King Dean]

lol SC, it always ends up about relationships with you.

 

[StormChaser]

lol SC, it always ends up about relationships with you.

What relationships? I'm talking about personalities and by people to avoid I mean the hairy backed knuckle draggers (of which there is a scary amount in this forum)

 

[God-King Dean]

Of course women are sex objects, they pretty themsleves up, wear nice tight shorts showing a bit of camel toe and a nice tight top that shows off the new boobs.

Us men then drool over said objects and want to stick our things in some of their openings.

The people who deem casual sex, 3 ways, foursomes or group sex degrading are the actual cause of people feeling degraded.

Sex is fun and its not only men that think that, if you are looking for love from sex then you are going about it the wrong way.

Everything you said is correct. Saying women ARE sex objects was the wrong way to say it, but women like being objectified (I'm gonna lol my arse off if a women protects this...).

But this isn't PC enough so you'll cop a lot of sh*t.

 

[God-King Dean]

What relationships? I'm talking about personalities and by people to avoid I mean the hairy backed knuckle draggers (of which there is a scary amount in this forum)

Well not necessarily then but the usualy insult is " I bet you don't have a girlfriend... "

 

[Lambretta]

Having 4 sisters i am keenly aware of womens perstectives on things.

you know what I have learnt in my 30+ years of having 4 sisters and discussing topical issues like this? Ive learnt that they cant be all put into the same group.

One womans opinion does not equal all womens opinions. If one woman consents to group sex with many male partners that a choice for her. Its her body and her morality and she can do what she likes with it.

And offcourse silence doesnt equal consent , I have never argued that so im not sure why you directing it at me. Consent can be withdrawn through methods other than those verbal.

Mate, I'm glad you're aware of these facts.

I wasnt so much as directing something at you - more putting forward an idea that consent doesn't have to be verbal. A fact you're aware of.

I just don't buy into the whole "consenting adults" arguement in cases such as these because when there are ten or more great big blokes on one small woman the woman may not feel she is in a position to say no.

If ten enormous blokes fronted me and asked me for my wallet, I'd probably just hand the bastard over. That doesnt mean I'd want to do it. But they could quite rightly claim I consented. It doesnt make it right either.

 

[Alex28]

Talk the biggest games what games are you some sort of pontificating idiot ?

I'm just saying the people who feel the need to be the most sexist and shocking in their comments are usually the biggest wimps in real life. You have written some pretty outlandish comments over the last few days - you know...acting as a big man and how women are just sex objects and the like...I'm guessing in real life you'd crap your pants if you came in contact with a woman.

Just an observation is all

 

[Kiki]

yeah, those poor bastards.

If they play by Gallop's rules, there just won't be those sweet, sweet opportunities to watch their mates masturbating anymore. what a shame.

There seems to be a real 'group masty' culture in league these days. Thats not gay at all.....

If they are banning this sort of behaviour after the game, channel 9 is going to have seriously consider removing the half time cameras from the sheds........

HAHAHAHA

yeh i've always thought it was a bit gay too. why would u want to shag a girl while ur mate is in the same room wanking off?? obviously this is part of the male brain i will never understand.

having said that though, as a woman i actually object to the consensus that a woman having group sex = she is a piece of meat. like she can't make her own decisions about her sex life. what about sexual empowerment? maybe some women do actually enjoy that sort of sex. not me personally, but i am kind of a prude to be honest.

as much as Gallop is trying to protect women and what not, that sort of paternalism is actually quite sexist.

having said all that, i get where he's coming from and i guess it's his only choice at this point. it's just such a touchy issue. if i was still at Uni it would be a cracker of an essay topic.

 

[homo man]

If its consensual then its alright,end of story!!!!!

 

[sneagle]

Interesting listen

NRL player defends Matthew JOhns

http://livenews.com.au/feature/nrl-player-defends-matthew-johns-group-sex/2009/5/14/206499

"Chris" - apparantly a current League Player gives his take from the other side - women throwing themselves at players and the offers they receive.

Hmmmmmm

 

[mik01]

this is another great excuse for feminists and twinkies to get up in arms over 'blokey' behaviour, and to lambast RL players and male fans as losers.

I've watched a few pornos in my time, and it always seems that when a gang bang is on, there's a willing chick involved going hard at everything thrown at her.

now, if it is so degrading and immoral to 'women', how is it that there are women out there who do this? and model nude or in bikinis?

i'll tell ya - because not all women think it is degrading or immoral.

women are just as randy as blokes and its time to shelve the 'virginal princess' agenda that conservative feminists trot out from their soap boxes.

you girls who get up in arms over this behaviour should also be directing it at your sisters who troll for multiple partners and one night stands with random blokes - especially chicks like that s**t Kiki mentioned.
to suggest its the sole fault of the footy players is just plain dumb

 

[Kiki]

I'm just saying the people who feel the need to be the most sexist and shocking in their comments are usually the biggest wimps in real life. You have written some pretty outlandish comments over the last few days - you know...acting as a big man and how women are just sex objects and the like...I'm guessing in real life you'd crap your pants if you came in contact with a woman.

Just an observation is all

hahahaha i so agree about this. like the guys on this forum that have a go at me and call me a s**t or whatever. bet they wouldn't be able to get a word out near me in real life.

 

[homo man]

HAHAHAHA

yeh i've always thought it was a bit gay too. why would u want to shag a girl while ur mate is in the same room wanking off?? obviously this is part of the male brain i will never understand.

having said that though, as a woman i actually object to the consensus that a woman having group sex = she is a piece of meat. like she can't make her own decisions about her sex life. what about sexual empowerment? maybe some women do actually enjoy that sort of sex. not me personally, but i am kind of a prude to be honest.

as much as Gallop is trying to protect women and what not, that sort of paternalism is actually quite sexist.

having said all that, i get where he's coming from and i guess it's his only choice at this point. it's just such a touchy issue. if i was still at Uni it would be a cracker of an essay topic.

I totally agree,once me and my mate were with one girl and as soon as he pulled his pants down my old fella went christopher reeves,just turned me right off.

 

[Surely]

I'm just saying the people who feel the need to be the most sexist and shocking in their comments are usually the biggest wimps in real life. You have written some pretty outlandish comments over the last few days - you know...acting as a big man and how women are just sex objects and the like...I'm guessing in real life you'd crap your pants if you came in contact with a woman.

Just an observation is all

Yeah but only because she's the wife and wears the pants.

 

[Kiki]

omg mik01 i read that as you were calling me a s**t and not the girl and i was about to blow up big time.

 

[typicalfan]

I know people have the argument what if it was your sister? And that is true most if not all of us would feel over protective in such a situation however same could be said for Strippers and many other occupations that could appear degrading or could be questionable morally.

If my sister were to do that I would not be so willing to approve however it doesn't bother me if other people do it because it is legal and it is their right and it is private.

I just think this woman had a consensual experience that ended up bad for all parties and forgettable. I would never say she was asking for it or that she deserved it but I think she has to take some sort of responsibility herself.